DHS report: right wing = scum

[kallsop]

Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real

The report:
Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Environment Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment

The Brownshirts are watching. Resistance is futile.

Hope and Change, kiss liberty goodbye.

 

[332nd]

Ooohhh Nostalgia. I remember when all it took to be terrorist scum was to disagree with Bush.

 

[Dr Adequate]

Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real

The report:
Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Environment Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment

The Brownshirts are watching. Resistance is futile.

Hope and Change, kiss liberty goodbye.

Funny, I never knew that everyone on the right wing belonged to "white supremacist and violent antigovernment groups". And yet you and Ms Malkin seem to classify this report on such groups as a "hit job" on "conservatives" in general.

Well, you'd know best.

 

[Upchurch]

Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real

Well, there's your problem. You're letting the internets do your thinking for you.

 

[applecorped]

Obama has never hit on me.

 

[Dr Adequate]

Obama has never hit on me.

I guess you must be one of that vanishingly rare breed of conservatives who are not "rightwing domestic terrorists".

Why not, by the way? Do you have liberal tendencies, or do you just not know how? If it's the latter, I'm sure kallsop will be able to tell you how to make a pipe bomb.

 

[maxpower1227]

Does anyone else find kallsop's habit of attaching "Hope And Change, [Insert Snide Remark Here]" to every single post to be obnoxious and juvenile?

 

[Dr Adequate]

Does anyone else find kallsop's habit of attaching "Hope And Change, [Insert Snide Remark Here]" to every single post to be obnoxious and juvenile?

Why else would he do it?

 

[Upchurch]

Obama has never hit on me.

Why does America hate you?

 

[Alt+F4]

Does anyone else find kallsop's habit of attaching "Hope And Change, [Insert Snide Remark Here]" to every single post to be obnoxious and juvenile?

Yes, that and comparing anything on the right or the left in the United States to the Brownshirts. Such a foolish comparison diminishes whatever point the OP was trying to make.

 

[Cleon]

Oddly, I don't recall kallsop objecting when the FBI was out spying on anti-war groups under the Bush administration.

 

[Dr Adequate]

Oddly, I don't recall kallsop objecting when the FBI was out spying on anti-war groups under the Bush administration.

Oh come on. Spying on law-abiding lefties is one thing. I mean, how many of those are there? But, as Ms Malkin has made clear, writing threat assessments of domestic terror cells is an attack on all right-wingers and their values. Protesting against the Iraq war is treason; blowing up their fellow-citizens is the God-given right of every conservative.

"First they came for the terrorists, and I did not speak out ..."

 

[Upchurch]

Oddly, I don't recall kallsop objecting when the FBI was out spying on anti-war groups under the Bush administration.

There is an easy enough way to check: Did Michelle Malkin ever object when the FBI was out spying on anti-war groups under the Bush administration?

 

[varwoche]

Speaking of extremism, I think it's worth mentioning that Malkin supports a white supremacist group (via articles and a link on her blogroll), namely VDARE.

 

[leftysergeant]

When we start locking and loading on them like they have on us for the last few years, thenthe anchor baby will have something to snivel about.

Fact of the matter is that the biggest and deadliest domestic terrorist attacks of my life time have been by the sorts of people whom DHS is now watching.

 

[Beerina]

The Brownshirts are watching. Resistance is futile.

Funny, I never knew that everyone on the right wing belonged to "white supremacist and violent antigovernment groups". And yet you and Ms Malkin seem to classify this report on such groups as a "hit job" on "conservatives" in general.

Who brownshirts the brownshirts?

 

[Peephole]

You don't think this is a good thing? Isn't this what the DHS should be doing? You might have missed it, but the first casualties of the "Glenn Beck uprising" have already fallen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Pittsburgh_police_shooting

 

[shadron]

Here is the reporting on this from the Federation of American Scientists, Secrecy in Government project:

DHS SEES RESURGENCE IN RIGHTWING EXTREMISM

"The consequences of a prolonged economic downturn--including real estate foreclosures, unemployment, and an inability to obtain credit--could create a fertile recruiting environment for rightwing extremists and even result in confrontations between such groups and government authorities," according to a new assessment (pdf) from the Department of Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis.

"In addition, the historical election of an African American president and the prospect of policy changes are proving to be a driving force for rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalization."

"A recent example of the potential violence associated with a rise in rightwing extremism may be found in the shooting deaths of three police officers in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on 4 April 2009," the DHS report said.

See "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment," Department of Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis, April 7, 2009 (For Official Use Only).

The report has drawn attention from several conservative bloggers and talk show hosts, who interpreted the report's references to right-wing positions on abortion, immigration and gun control as defamatory in this context. The "document targets most conservatives and libertarians in the country," according to The Liberty Papers blog.

The report, however, describes "extremists" more narrowly as those "that are primarily hate-oriented" and those that "reject federal authority," not those who simply oppose abortion or immigration.

A 2001 report prepared for the U.S. Department of Energy examined "Left-Wing Extremism: The Current Threat" (pdf).

DHS reportedly issued its own analysis of left-wing extremism earlier this year.

I call your attention to the last three paragraph. Sounds like Homeland Security is Homeland securing. Who'd'a thunk it?

Does the Liberty papers blog accept responsibility for the net that killed the policemen, then, if he was simply a member of "most conservatives and libertarians in the country" ?

 

[Snide]

Does anyone else find kallsop's habit of attaching "Hope And Change, [Insert Snide Remark Here]" to every single post to be obnoxious and juvenile?

Juvenile, yes, which is expected.

Obnoxious, no, because it just doesn't affect me enough for me to call it obnoxious. Boring and unimaginative, yes.

 

[Ziggurat]

I call your attention to the last three paragraph. Sounds like Homeland Security is Homeland securing. Who'd'a thunk it?

Well, let's look at one of those paragraphs:

"The report, however, describes "extremists" more narrowly as those "that are primarily hate-oriented" and those that "reject federal authority," not those who simply oppose abortion or immigration."

Well, not quite. This is what the report says:

"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

Note what got cut off: rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority. And just in case, they add that last sentence which implicates lots of conservatives and has no intrinsic connection to either hate or anti-government sentiments. Yes, yes, it only may include those groups, but if membership in anti-abortion or anti-illegal immigrant groups isn't what defines one as extremist, why was that sentence even included? Doesn't that at least suggest that membership in such groups could qualify one as being extremist? Do you not see why this sort of characterization might upset anti-abortion or anti-illegal immigration groups? Hell, under this definition, it could be argued that the framers of the constitution were rightwing extremists: they definitely rejected federal authority in favor of state authority on a whole lot of issues.

This report is crap. And liberals shouldn't be happy about it either, because whether or not you're upset about possible unfair labeling of conservatives as extremists, it should be clear that it's just shoddy work, and of little use in identifying actual extremists. The excuses for it amount to noting that common sense will prevent mislabeling of people as extremists who at least superficially meet criteria outlined in the report. But that's sort of the point: you're better off relying only on common sense and just ignoring the report altogether. The report is useless. The intellectual sloppiness of the report doesn't help "secure" the homeland at all, but is just a waste product of a clearly inefficient bureaucracy. Someone working at DHS is earning a salary for doing nothing of any use.