Molten Steel

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TheRedWorm said:
It's not orange juice, and the material is genuinely hot, but I digress.
I'll agree that the question is stupid, and that is intentional. What I want you to realize is that you are using the same stupid logic for your claims. Do you recognize this?
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Put it in a sock!
Do you have something of substance to contribute?
 
I believe the idiom you are searching for is "put a sock in it"

Now how about you contribute something of substance and answer the question.
 
Christopher7 said:
You are denying the falling molten metal was steel because you can't figure out where it came from. Deal with reality. NIST admits it was molten metal and tries to claim it was aluminum mixed with organic materials.
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No matter how many times you say stupid, it's still stupid.
 
Christopher7 said:
They didn't find any explosives because the didn't look for any.
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How do you know that?

They ruled out explosives before the started their whitewash.
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How do you know that it is a whitewash?

NIST is part of the cover up just like the 9/11 commission. Thomas and Kean said they were set up to fail.
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The NIST report is a consensus about the work of 200 employees, it's not surprising that some experts aren't pleased with this. But your logic is flawed: you're taking Thomas and Kean's opinions as gospel.

You believe the government that lied us into a war over the people who saw molten steel.
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Oh...
Do you know that I don't care about "your government"? I give you an hint: nationality.

Circular denial. You are using your conclusion that there was no molten steel to claim the witnesses don't know what they are talking about.
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Nope, that's called Occam's razor, and reasoning (you know, the thing you aren't able to do). You only have your testimonies in which you take them as gospel, but NIST experts mustn't be trusted? Oh, come on, I don't think the denial is on my side.

And when it melts, steel is white. Not red, orange or kinda.

The witnesses are professionals
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Yes and no.
Yes, they are professionals. No, all of them aren't (overall the anonymous quotes). No, they aren't experts on metals.

and to say they don't know what they are talking about is arrogant and insulting to the max.
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Huh.
Can you explain why it would be "insultant"?

Can you admit that they saw molten metal?
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Yes. Metal, sure, steel, certainly not.

Or are you going to call them all liars?
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They don't lie, they are misled by their own conception of metals...
 
Christopher7 said:
It was NOT examined for explosives residue.
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That's generally how investigations work. When there's no reason to believe that either mechanism was responsible for the collapse in the first place why should an investigation required for them? I've always had the impression that controlled demolition proponents only make this argument because they think a collapse is impossible even under the most absurd circumstances. Then again tell me C7, what are the odds of this kind of evidence not being found with or without the intent of finding it?


Christopher7 said:
They tested for DNA, not explosives or thermite.
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Again see above...

Christopher7 said:
They did not look for it.
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Likewise... see above
 
C7 said:
They didn't find any explosives because the didn't look for any.
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How do you know that?
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NIST reply to stj911truth
http://www.911proof.com/NIST.pdf
pg 3
NIST carried its analysis to the point where the buildings reached global instability.
NIST did not conduct tests for explosive residue.

pg 4
We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse.
NIST has stated that it did not analyze the collapse of the towers.
NIST’s analysis was carried to the point of collapse initiation.

C7 said:
They ruled out explosives before the started their whitewash.
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How do you know that it is a whitewash?
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They started with a conclusion and tried to get the evidence to fit that conclusion. They did NOT explain the total collapse of the trade towers and they hand waved the witness reports of explosions.

"NIST reviewed all of the interviews conducted by the FDNY of the firefighters (500 interviews) and in addition conducted its own set of interviews with emergency responders and building occupants. Taken as a whole the interviews did not support the contention that explosives played a role in the collapse of the WTC Towers."

About 100 of those first responders said there were explosions and some equated them to a CD. To ignore them and not even investigate the possibility of explosives is a whitewash.

The NIST report is a consensus about the work of 200 employees,
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The person in charge controls what goes in the report.

it's not surprising that some experts aren't pleased with this.
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You got that part right.

But your logic is flawed: you're taking Thomas and Kean's opinions as gospel.
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No The co-chairmen repudiated their own report to salvage some of their honor.
The report was controlled by Phillip Zelikow was a member of the Bush transition team.
The Bush administration systematically distorted scientific documents.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=technology&res=9A00E2DD133DF93AA25751C0A9629C8B63
The Bush administration lied us into a war in Iraq.

 They have no credibility yet you believe this report.
Oh...
Do you know that I don't care about "your government"? I give you an hint: nationality.
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You are staunchly defending my government. [FONT=&quot]
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I still want to know how we can rule out giant lasers from outer space since the steel wasn't tested for this. How can we be sure?
 
Christopher7 said:


NIST reply to stj911truth
http://www.911proof.com/NIST.pdf
pg 3
NIST carried its analysis to the point where the buildings reached global instability.
NIST did not conduct tests for explosive residue.

pg 4
We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse.
NIST has stated that it did not analyze the collapse of the towers.
NIST’s analysis was carried to the point of collapse initiation.


They started with a conclusion and tried to get the evidence to fit that conclusion. They did NOT explain the total collapse of the trade towers and they hand waved the witness reports of explosions.
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Nobody takes the time to explain or recreate exactly how the spaghetti arranges itself on the floor after it tips off the table. All that is necessary is to figure out who pushed it off the table.

Once a tower collapse has started, everything else random and uninteresting.
 
TheRedWorm said:
You're not good at answering questions, are you C7?
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I don't think that he is good at anything except for repeating the same BS over and over and over again. Maybe he thinks that it will become true the 457th time he says it or something.
 
Grizzly Bear said:
That's generally how investigations work.
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Real investigations consider all the possibilities. They follow every lead. No stone is left unturned.

A hundred witnesses said they heard explosions. There are a number of videos of survivors and reporters who reported explosions. Anyone who writes them all off is lying about the possibility of explosives.

When there's no reason to believe that either mechanism was responsible for the collapse in the first place why should an investigation required for them?
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Yes there is. You just deny it all.

Then again tell me C7, what are the odds of this kind of evidence not being found with or without the intent of finding it?
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You can't find explosive residue if you don't look for it.
 
I want to know why they didn't investigate the possibility that the wtc was gnawed down by goats.!!
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Thats what I want to know and I want to know NOW!!


this is the color of the goats teeth
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BigAl said:
Nobody takes the time to explain or recreate exactly how the spaghetti arranges itself on the floor after it tips off the table. All that is necessary is to figure out who pushed it off the table.

Once a tower collapse has started, everything else random and uninteresting.
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To fail to explain the collapse is a farce, not an explanation.
 
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Christopher7 said:
When 3,000 people are murdered, every lead, every possibility must be investigated. Ignoring a hundred witnesses and eliminating explosives as a possibility is a whitewash by the government and for the government.
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I know! I still want to know why they didn't investigate the giant lasers from outer space! Are they trying to hide something?
 
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