Molten Steel

[Christopher7]

People should certainly not believe you!

Correct. People should not believe any of us. They should believe the witnesses.

You clearly state that you yourself believed the OCT until seeing videos of WTC7 and say that through seeing these videos that you believe WTC7 was a controled demolition? You determined a CD of WTC7 from VIDEO

Correct.

Your questions about steel and thermite are a diversion.
I'm not going to go there. Give it up.

The professionals who were there said there was molten steel. There is no reason to claim they were mistaken or misled. You deny what they said only because you can't deal with the consequences.

 

[Toke]

Originally Posted by Toke
I wonder, if it was molten steel pouring out of the corner of the building, what was holding up the upper floors.

The supporting collums cannot both hold up the building and pour out the window.

I asked the same question when I first saw that pic.

Answers:

You are a liar

You are calling the witnesses liars

Why do you deny the evidence

Gvmt shill!!!

Bush lover!!!

Ignored altogether(most popular) ect. ect. ect.

Yes it is a good question, and of course I am not the first or fastest to think of it.

Guess it will be ignored again.

 

[Jackanory]

Correct. People should not believe any of us. They should believe the witnesses.

Correct.

Your questions about steel and thermite are a diversion.
I'm not going to go there. Give it up.

The professionals who were there said there was molten steel. There is no reason to claim they were mistaken or misled. You deny what they said only because you can't deal with the consequences.

Answer the questions!

I dont deny what anyone says. Be they mistaken, mislead, edited or lied. I still dont understand why your emphasis is on 'molten' anything?

You are shouting about 'molte' but what are you actually getting at? What is the point you are trying to make exactely? I'm lost in translation!

 

[Christopher7]

if it was molten steel pouring out of the corner of the building, what was holding up the upper floors.
The supporting collums cannot both hold up the building and pour out the window.

Yes it is a good question,

You are right, it is a good question but it calls for speculation and will be answered with childish insults. Knowing that, I will have a go at it.

The falling molten steel occurred just before the collapse. The columns were not all cut at once. It is possible that some of the columns were cut with thermite over a period of several minutes leaving just enough to hold up the top section. Then the rest were taken out simultaneously.

 

[TheRedWorm]

You are trying to infer that temperature/color charts are useless. The fact that they exist proves their utility.

Good, then answer the question I asked in my post.

 

[BigAl]

You are right, it is a good question but it calls for speculation and will be answered with childish insults. Knowing that, I will have a go at it.

The falling molten steel occurred just before the collapse. The columns were not all cut at once. It is possible that some of the columns were cut with thermite over a period of several minutes leaving just enough to hold up the top section. Then the rest were taken out simultaneously.

Given how ineffective thermite is at cutting horizontal steel as shown in this video, how well would it be cutting any of the beams?

Mythbusters Toast 1/2 Ton of Thermite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPAYZMzGMwQ
(notice slag falling off hood and that the SUV isn't melted into a puddle of liquid steel.)​

Either you apply it to a massive core beam, in which case many many tons of thermite are necessary per beam

Or you apply the thermite at the exterior beams in which case, the towers light Manhattan up like a roman candle.

And nobody noticed.

 

[Christopher7]

Answer the questions!

No!

I dont deny what anyone says. Be they mistaken, mislead, edited or lied.

That is self contradictory.

You are shouting about 'molte' but what are you actually getting at? What is the point you are trying to make exactely? I'm lost in translation!

The only explanation for the falling molten steel and the molten steel is the debris pile is thermite.

 

[TokenMac]

You are right, it is a good question but it calls for speculation and will be answered with childish insults. Knowing that, I will have a go at it.

The falling molten steel occurred just before the collapse. The columns were not all cut at once. It is possible that some of the columns were cut with thermite over a period of several minutes leaving just enough to hold up the top section. Then the rest were taken out simultaneously.

Then why not just let the thermite take out the columns untill the building fell instead of taking it "out simultaneously".

 

[Christopher7]

Given how ineffective thermite is at cutting horizontal steel as shown in this video, how well would it be cutting any of the beams?

Your denial is based on your lack of knowledge of thermite technology. You could not possibly know what technology the military had because they don't make that information public.

 

[Toke]

You are right, it is a good question but it calls for speculation and will be answered with childish insults. Knowing that, I will have a go at it.

The falling molten steel occurred just before the collapse. The columns were not all cut at once. It is possible that some of the columns were cut with thermite over a period of several minutes leaving just enough to hold up the top section. Then the rest were taken out simultaneously.

Ok, now comes the nasty part.

How much molten steel do you get from a collum when melting it with termite.
How many could be cut prematurely without collapse.
Would it be enough to melt one collum or would it take all of them to create that flow.

And more importantly, how do termite cut a vertical collum, how much termite is needed, how do you plant it without beeing noticed, ect.....

speculation and will be answered with childish insults.

No it will be answered by questions to specifics from people who know alot more of the subjects than you, and have rejected the idea.

 

[Mercutio]

Not so. Their words are clear.

Clear, and out of context. Your "not so" is yet another lie.

You have admitted that you don't have another explanation.

And another lie. I listed four possibilities to explain the claims of molten steel. You are lying when you say I don't have another explanation.

I did.
People should not believe anonymous posters who glibly say the witnesses were mistaken or misled.

People should not believe anonymous posters who lie using the words of others. You, C7, are a liar. This has been shown time and time again, including at least twice in this post alone.

 

[TheRedWorm]

What is the composition and temperature of the following?

bump.

 

[Jackanory]

You are right, it is a good question but it calls for speculation and will be answered with childish insults. Knowing that, I will have a go at it.

The only person who answers/or doesnt with childish insults is you!

The falling molten steel occurred just before the collapse. The columns were not all cut at once. It is possible that some of the columns were cut with thermite over a period of several minutes leaving just enough to hold up the top section. Then the rest were taken out simultaneously.

Please read what you wrote and analyse it.

Just to clarify - You imply that an aircraft hits a building with such precision that it intentionaly misses the pre positioned thermite cutting charges. The resulting fires also bypass these pre positioned thermite cutting charges. These missed and carefully timed thermite charges then kick in and cut pre selected columns, whilst fires rage, just enough to hold up the top section then the other columns, which the aircraft also intentionally missed, are taken out simultaneously (with thermite i assume).

Time for you to be put on ignore forever!

 

[Mercutio]

Correct. People should not believe any of us. They should believe the witnesses.

Your witnesses disagree with your fantasy.

 

[Toke]

Your denial is based on your lack of knowledge of thermite technology. You could not possibly know what technology the military had because they don't make that information public.

You have so far failed to convince anybody that your knowlegde of termite technology exist.

 

[TokenMac]

No!

That is self contradictory.

The only explanation for the falling molten steel and the molten steel is the debris pile is thermite.

Your denial is based on your lack of knowledge of thermite technology. You could not possibly know what technology the military had because they don't make that information public.

And you can't claim thermite had to be there, based only on we don't know what the military has, because that would also mean you don't know either.

 

[BigAl]

Your denial is based on your lack of knowledge of thermite technology. You could not possibly know what technology the military had because they don't make that information public.

So which was it? The core columns with tons of material per column or the exterior beams which would make the tower burn like a highway flare and be visible for a a 25 mile radius.

Or both.

And explosive demolition and airplanes.

And nobody saw any themite and nobody heard any man-made explosive demolition. We are left with airplanes. Only airplanes.

 

[Mercutio]

Your denial is based on your lack of knowledge of thermite technology. You could not possibly know what technology the military had because they don't make that information public.

Your entire posting history is based on your lack of knowledge about physics, chemistry, psychology, and perhaps any science at all. You could not possibly know the first thing about any of these sciences, because you would otherwise know that your fantasy is impossible. Not improbable. Impossible.

 

[Christopher7]

Then why not just let the thermite take out the columns untill the building fell instead of taking it "out simultaneously".

They wanted the building to fall straight down and minimize the noise level.

We could go round and round about this but we are both speculating.

 

[Christopher7]

Your entire posting history is based on your lack of knowledge about physics, chemistry, psychology, and perhaps any science at all. You could not possibly know the first thing about any of these sciences, because you would otherwise know that your fantasy is impossible. Not improbable. Impossible.

It is not necessary for me to know more than thermite melts steel and is the only thing that could have melted the steel seen falling from the south tower and in the debris pile.

You cannot deny this so you will switch to denial #2 "There was no molten steel."