Should Marijuana be legalized

Should marijuana be legalized?

  • No

    Votes: 12 7.1%

  • Yes

    Votes: 147 87.0%

  • Yes but medical use only

    Votes: 10 5.9%
  • Total voters
    169
I hope it does get legalized over there. In the UK it's back up to Class B and I'm sure once you guys manage to figure it out the dominoes will start falling.
 
Magnifico2.0 said:
It has been conclusively shown that people who start out innocently smoking a joint may become heroin junkies.
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I smoked pot all through the 90s. I never had even the slightest temptation to try heroin.

Anecdote, but there you go. I find the suggestion that pot inevitably leads to heroin to be more than a little ridiculous.

ETA: HBT
 
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Wait...what was the poll about again?

*falls out of chair laughing hysterically*
 
Aerik said:
There needs to be a decriminalization option.

Look up the legal definition.
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No. Decrimionalizing doesn't solve anything, in fact it perpetuates one of the worst aspects of the drug war - the ability of the state to confiscate cars, houses, etc without any criminal charges being brought.
 
The Painter said:
Maybe the rest were too high to answer? Just kidding I don't smoke pot anymore, but I did when I was younger. The pot today is much stronger than when I was young, puts me right out.ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
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No, it's not. That is a myth invented to get people like you (who smoked pot "back in the day") to support tough drug laws, "because it's not the same as you remember".

Marijuana was bred for potency for thousands of years, it didn't suddenly become more potent in the last 30.
 
WildCat said:
No, it's not. That is a myth invented to get people like you (who smoked pot "back in the day") to support tough drug laws, "because it's not the same as you remember".

Marijuana was bred for potency for thousands of years, it didn't suddenly become more potent in the last 30.
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I think it has. I can't prove it. I think they've just got better at breeding for potency in the last 20-30 years.
 
BPSCG said:
Evidence?

Not evidence that it reduces pain, but evidence that it reduces pain more effectively than currently legal treatments.
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There is plenty of evidence, even without "experience reports from people in pain":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol

THC has mild to moderate analgesic effects, and medical cannabis can be used to treat pain. The mechanism for analgesic effects caused directly by THC or other cannabinoid agonists is not fully understood.
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Can you cite evidence that Percocet is better than anything available?

edit:since I dislike "gotcha" posts, let me be clear. Percocet, and many other drugs, are not "better than anything else". Different drugs have different effects on different people, and different side effects.

For example, I would expect Percocet to have better pain reducing abilities than MJ. OTOH, it's wildly addictive. If I had moderate, long term pain, MJ would likely be a better choice (if those were my two options). If I had severe, short term pain, I'd reach for the Percocet. If Percocet made me extremely nausous, perhaps the doctor would prescribe Vicodin instead. It's nice to have a choice.

As for evidence that MJ should be part of the treatments, well, research is very limited due to the aforementioned illegality. We know it is active/effective, we know some people prefer it to legal pain/nausea medicine, and we know that medical anecdotes don't really tell us a lot.
 
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TraneWreck said:
I think it's possible to figure it out with a blood test.

In any case, I think it would be a huge advancement to legalize the substance but make it illegal to drive (and whatever other dangerous activities have alcohal restrictions) with any amount of THC in your system.
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No, there should be a test for intoxication/impairment. Pot can be detected for up to a month after use.
 
WildCat said:
No, there should be a test for intoxication/impairment. Pot can be detected for up to a month after use.
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Well...depending on the test and depending on how much you use it. If it's just that one time, it's not going to stay in your system for very long.
 
3point14 said:
I think it has. I can't prove it. I think they've just got better at breeding for potency in the last 20-30 years.
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Nope:
When today's youth use marijuana, they are using the same drug used by youth in the 1960s and 1970s. A small number of low-THC samples seized by the Drug Enforcement Administration are used to calculate a dramatic increase in potency. However, these samples were not representative of the marijuana generally available to users during this era. Potency data from the early 1980s to the present are more reliable, and they show no increase in the average THC content of marijuana. Even if marijuana potency were to increase, it would not necessarily make the drug more dangerous. Marijuana that varies quite substantially in potency produces similar psychoactive effects.
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http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#potent

Remember, only dopes believe DEA propaganda. ;)
 
roger said:
Can you cite evidence that Percocet is better than anything available?
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Fair enough. Let me rephrase: Can anyone cite any evidence that marijuana reduces pain better than what's already available in other, legal drugs?
 
tomwaits said:
Well...depending on the test and depending on how much you use it. If it's just that one time, it's not going to stay in your system for very long.
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If you smoke pot on Sunday night you aren't high on Monday morning, yet you would still test positive.
 
BPSCG said:
Fair enough. Let me rephrase: Can anyone cite any evidence that marijuana reduces pain better than what's already available in other, legal drugs?
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Can any of those other drugs also relieve nausea, or have less severe side effects and other drug interactions than marijuana, or cost less?
 
WildCat said:
Can any of those other drugs also relieve nausea, or have less severe side effects and other drug interactions than marijuana, or cost less?
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Oliver was saying marijuana's medical benefit was pain relief; he didn't say anything about nausea.

But in any case, prednisone is a very effective at preventing nausea from chemotherapy. My personal experience.
 
BPSCG said:
Fair enough. Let me rephrase: Can anyone cite any evidence that marijuana reduces pain better than what's already available in other, legal drugs?
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Why yes.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20070213/ai_n17221388/
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6352
http://www.mpp.org/news/press-releases/study-confirms-medical-marijua.html

And you can google just as well as I can, and find some other studies where, for example, it is suggested that high levels of cannabis make the pain worse.

The studies are ongoing. It's not easy to do medical studies on an illegal drug.
 
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