www.StopVisionFromFeeling.com - Volunteers Needed

[paximperium]

I'm sure people were chanting that as they picked up their pitchforks and headed for the witch burning.

And of course that is exactly what's happening...oh wait, not even close.

 

[VisionFromFeeling]

I should have realised that even constructive criticism might not be well met, though, the site does proclaim on the homepage that the author is "brilliant".

As a clarification, "UncaYimmy is a brilliant skeptic!" is a quote of what I've said. And I still say it. He designed a way to ensure that volunteers remain anonymous in the study. I love the use of that quote on his website. It exemplifies a lot.

In all fairness to UncaYimmy, I believe that is a little joke. Anita initially praised UncaYimmy as being a brilliant skeptic because she thought he was agreeing with her, but later changed her mind when he explained that he was doing nothing of the sort.

No you've misunderstood why I said that in the first place. And you don't seem to know that I still call him a brilliant skeptic. It wasn't because he was agreeing with me, it was because he designed a way to ensure that volunteers remain anonymous in the investigation.

I find it obnoxious to be lectured about how you think I could better use my time. Do you really need me to elaborate on this?

Supremely ironic, given that you've spent the last couple of months trying to convince Anita to stop doing something she likes to do in her own free time.

Oh if only I had the wits of plumjam, my dealings with the JREF Forum Skeptics would be much more pleasant!

* She has read over 100 people.

The vast majority of which has never found out about what I perceived.

Meanwhile, she keeps writing more and more on her website.

Jim! I post progress and updates on my investigation! Don't make it sound bad! You people were nagging for ages for me to post the survey notes, for instance, so I did. And I wanted to present a very thorough detailed description of the local March Skeptics meeting, so don't fuss!

 

[VisionFromFeeling]

Entirely agree. If it were the case that VfF didn't have that preposterous site of hers, then I'd have reservations about UY's action, but as things stand, his site is a very valid response to the woo.

My website posts a comprehensive and up-to-date source of the material I gather in my investigation. My website is quite necessary since I wish to document the progress of the investigation publicly for those who are interested in how a paranormal investigation might go about. And in case you didn't notice, so far I like UncaYimmy's website.

I still don't know what VfF's intentions are, but her site, as it stands, looks like a perfect precursor to a career in woo.

My career will be in conventional Physics. And I swear on all four of Maxwell's equations.

 

[Ashles]

My career will be in conventional Physics.

Physics and medicine and optics and... well whatever is being discussed at the time.

Any particular field of any particular discipline you've got your eye on? Or are you just looking to apply for a job in.... general sciencey stuff?

 

[plumjam]

Physics and medicine and optics and... well whatever is being discussed at the time.

Any particular field of any particular discipline you've got your eye on? Or are you just looking to apply for a job in.... general sciencey stuff?

What does that have to do with anything?
Oh, that's right - nothing.
Except for your recurrent desire to have a go at her. No surprise there, seeing as you were always part of the bully crowd.

 

[VisionFromFeeling]

And the word "eventually" is a little joke about Anita's use of that word.

And I think that is particularly funny too. If I find anything that I am personally offended by on UncaYimmy's site, I will voice my opinions, and strongly.

Her website has probably tripled in size since she started here.

And that's because there's more progress to report about. Oh, so now progress is wrong?

She's the one going to a local skeptics group and claiming that their tests did not "falsify" her claim.

It didn't falsify the claim.

I hope to stop her from spreading pseudoscience and misinformation unchecked. I hope to stop her from turning her abilities into a fraudulent business

I have no intention of spreading pseudoscience, I am a science student. It is just that my experience is unconventional and sounds like pseudoscience when I describe the way I experience it.

like this fraud who is doing what Anita claims to be able to do.

Or this ... $1100 for a full-body scan! I could perform one of those in 20 minutes! If I worked for a full 8 hour day, for 40 hours a week, for an entire year, I would make...

$3300 an hour,
$26400 a day,
$132,000 a week,
$528,000 a month,
$6,336,000 a year!

Once when we had a guy come over to our house to do tiles he charged more by the hour than what a doctor of medicine makes, I jokingly said that I would quit college and call mom and tell her I'm going to do tiles. And a guy who drives a bulldozer earns $100 an hour so I said the same. But I'm still in college, money doesn't tempt me away from what I love to do for my career [conventional science]. Not that I won't be making a nice bit of money with what I do [as a Medical Physics researcher].

I want all of you to trust me when I say, that even if I could *get away with* taking such money as above, I am not tempted. I am disgusted.

Dear Skeptics, I am your good Claimant.

 

[Uncayimmy]

The vast majority of which has never found out about what I perceived.

This is a good example of why I created the site. You say you've never been wrong in your readings. I asked you how many readings. You said 100. Now you say that the majority of them don't know they were read, which means you don't know if you were right.

But this really isn't the thread to discuss that particular issue. I only offer it up as an example of things that will be discussed on my site

Jim! I post progress and updates on my investigation! Don't make it sound bad! You people were nagging for ages for me to post the survey notes, for instance, so I did. And I wanted to present a very thorough detailed description of the local March Skeptics meeting, so don't fuss!

If "Meanwhile, she keeps writing more and more on her website" makes you look bad, then I don't know what to say. My point was that you do more than just post here, and now I do as well. You can write all you want on your site.

 

[Jeff Corey]

Perhaps you do. We were wondering where they were.

 

[VisionFromFeeling]

The VFF threads have had to be closed/moderated due to the unusually large number of unnecessary personal attacks directed towards the relatively polite and respectful Anita.

And I thought the whole world was against me.

Excellent, such applications are to be encouraged. This shows that she is at least willing to open a dialogue about testing. It also shows that she has come to the attention of skeptics, which we already know. However, I don't believe the IIG newsletter reaches the general public.

Let me settle anyone's concerns about me receiving too much publicity with my webpage by saying that during the 20 months it's been up I can count the number of e-mails from random visitors with the fingers of one hand.

or only going to woo meetups.

I don't go to woo meetups.

I'd need more information about this - what was their response, what sort of study was it, with what sort of controls, have skeptics been invited to participate, where will the results be published, etc?

All of this information is available at my website www.visionfromfeeling.com. I post tons of detailed information about the progress of planning and conducting my study there. The Mall simply said no.

Please begin here, testprotocol.html. Test protocol negotiations with the IIG ran to a hault when I realized that I hadn't experienced the test conditions that would be required in order to know whether I could claim to perform under those conditions. Every single currently standing question about the IIG test protocol is presented at the bottom of that page. Please read it!

The study is explained very thoroughly at study.html. The study is for me to experience the claimed medical perceptions more in order to form a more specific claim for a test, and to try out various test conditions. The study procedure is gradually changed toward a test procedure.

I have definitely invited Skeptics to attend. In fact I am insisting on it. I see none other more reliable to participate in it. The results will be published on my website, and probably discussed here on the JREF Forums. I would also hope for some of the participants of the study to post their version of the study as well.

My website is not too hard to read, and it really explains a lot about the investigation I am doing. Please read.

Depending on the nature of the study, she may not need permission for that (you wouldn't in the UK, I believe, but I'm sure the USA varies from state-to-state), and if so then she should be free to conduct non-evasive studies in public if others are allowed to do so.

I made sure to carefully check with the officials of the city and am glad I did since otherwise I wouldn't have known that I am not allowed to bring a sign without specific approval and might have done that. Yes the study can take place in the public street, at least in the city I checked with.

As for the professor I contacted at my school about involving some of her students in my study she suggested that I read up on how such research projects are done before embarking on it. I think I'll be successful at employing local Skeptics instead after all.

* She has read over 100 people.

What were their responses? Did any of them fail to seek medical treatment as a result of the reading? Have you got testimonies from any of them?

I have perceived medical information from more than a 100 people, but have expressed those perceptions to only a handful. No one has failed to seek medical treatment as a result of my readings.

Thank you for inquiring into my investigation, tkingdoll, and please do see my webpage www.visionfromfeeling.com as it will answer many of the questions you have about it and more.

 

[VisionFromFeeling]

Irrelevance at its best

Two questions for Anita, also known as VisionFromFeeling:

• Do you/did you, like to watch CSI: Crime Scene Investigation ("Vegas")?

• If so, when did you start/stop watching the CSI "Vegas" series? For example, did you start watching it during the first season, and stop watching it after the third season?

Anita, if you don't find the questions too personal, would you mind answering them in this thread?
(I don't consider this a third question, but I'd like to request you post your answers here.)

I will make a follow-up post explaining why I'm asking these questions, and try to tie-in how I feel it pertains to this thread, your Web site, and UncaYimmy's Web site.

I have only watched very few episodes of CSI and most of them were the Vegas ones which in fact are my favorites of the different ones out there since I like its cast the most. But to be honest with you all... you know how CSI has two stories taking place at the same time in each episode, I always get them mixed up and get all confused about the story. It's funny, I'm a *dumb blonde* about many simple and everyday things, but when it comes to my coursework I never fail.

I've only seen so few episodes and I was never really following it. These are definitely not personal questions. But they seem so tremendously irrelevant.

 

[VisionFromFeeling]

In which case you'd better quickly go and check whether the domain name www.KidnapVisionFromFeeling.com is still available.

I just reported this sad Plumjam favorite ploy of insinuating that tsig would consider harm to VFF.

And should I report all the posts made that insinuate that I would consider harm to persons in whom I perceive medical information?

 

[VisionFromFeeling]

My career will be in conventional Physics.

Physics and medicine and optics and... well whatever is being discussed at the time.

Any particular field of any particular discipline you've got your eye on? Or are you just looking to apply for a job in.... general sciencey stuff?

As an undergraduate I am studying a B.S. Chemistry, a B.S. Physics Optical Science, as much Electrical Engineering as I can fit in. Then I hope to do graduate studies in Optical Physics and Engineering and also Histology (the study of human tissue structure) until finally a Ph.D. in Medical Physics. So it is all those things combined, Ashles.

 

[Jeff Corey]

I sincerely hope you successfully achieve all that. If you do, my Vision from Thinking predicts you will feel a lot differently than you do now about your claims.

 

[tsig]

I'm sure people were chanting that as they picked up their pitchforks and headed for the witch burning.

Actually no, I first heard it while working at Callaway nuclear power plant. I believe the reactor used atoms not witches.

 

[LightinDarkness]

Light, I wonder how old you are, because your style of argumentation is that of a child.

Whats this, more wild and baseless accusations which completely ignores the evidence and shows that you haven't the fainest idea of what you are talking about? How surprising. You are on the run. You've been debunked and are now flailing about trying to shield yourself from cold hard reality.

You have no evidence that Anita has ever done any actual harm to anyone, and this post of yours amounts to you trying to convince yourself that you've somehow managed to work around that.

Your failure to understand four, no actually 5 links demonstrating how harm could come from this just shows your state of utter and complete denial.

Trying to associate Anita with people being thrown into baths of acid, and 276 "murders", is patently ridiculous; thereby pushing you into the category of "critical thinker" I'm happy not to waste my time and energy on.

Whats that? You have no evidence? You can't counter my metaphors that shows exactly why this is harmful? You have no evidence that contradicts mine? How surprising. You have failed. You lose in your attempt to play valiant protector of the woos. Freedom of speech always beats out tyrannical and hysterical people like you Now welcome to the ignore list along with the other defeated trolls.

 

[VisionFromFeeling]

Whats that? You have no evidence? You can't counter my metaphors that shows exactly why this is harmful? You have no evidence that contradicts mine? How surprising. You have failed. You lose.

Light, I wonder how old you are, because your style of argumentation is that of a child.

plumjam's seconded.

 

[Jeff Corey]

Yes, you did get his wits. Please return them immediately.

 

[LightinDarkness]

plumjam's seconded.

Thanks for the compliment - I'd be highly offended if someone who claims to have mystical powers thought highly of me. It would mean something was going terribly wrong. That you continue to engage in such childish antics like the one above just further demonstrates the point.

 

[lionking]

Now welcome to the ignore list along with the other defeated trolls.

Yeah, way to go. Put those who disagree with you on ignore. Tres skeptical.

 

[Jeff Corey]

C'est vrai. Watching the freakshow is amusing,