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How do you handle proselytizers?

:eye-poppi

so many good ideas to remember! :D

My favourite is to pick up my sword (im into western swordsmanship as an explanation) and notify them they have a five second head start.

Then i put my sword down and go back to watching transformers.

I dislike stupid people (magical thinking)

but as an antitheist these people actually cause me to suffer "stupidity rage"
 
Roadtoad said:
(And, actually, that accusation is and has always been a lie. Even Mel Gibson got that right.)
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Actually, I think Mel Gibson got that just as wrong as any other crazy christian wacko.
 
I was walking down the street one morning and a couple of WJ's were flogging their pamphlets on the street. They had a lot of them so I said, "Hey, I have a meeting in about half an hour, can I get a whole bunch of those? I think the people at the meeting would be very interested in these."

At first they were reluctant but after I pushed a little with a little slick talk of my own they gave me almost all of them. I carried the pamphlets up the street to a distant garbage can and waited for them to look my way and dropped the entire load in.

I figured it was the least I could do for the other people on the street.
 
qayak said:
... At first they were reluctant but after I pushed a little ...
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I have "heard" that they pay for their own supply of printouts. If this is true, you played a great prank on them! It would be interesting to find if there's some kind of scam behind the whole printing thing.

On a non-related note, I've been looking for a site that had pamphlets to give back to this people (with bible verses proving that they have to be receptive), but can't find it.

Heck.
 
Don't know how many of you are joking about answering the door in various states of undress, but the few times I have had door to door folks of late, I've been in my underwear. I tell them (whether it's true at that moment or not) that I work nights and was asleep, ask if they have any tracts, take some if they do and then close the door.

About 10 years ago I did get a pair of female JWs and happened to mention I was an atheist. They were curious so I put some clothes on and talked to them for a bit. They foolishly decided to initiate the conversation with abiogenesis/evolution and after 10 minutes or so of me schooling them they left.
 
It's pretty far illegal in the United States to answer the door naked.

If the door knocker wanted to press charges, you could be convicted easily and if so- As a Sex Offender.

As a Sex Offender, not only would you be sentenced- You would be required to Register as a Known Sex Offender and be registered as one for a minimum of 7 years.

This can be extremely disruptive in finding employment or in finding housing- For clearly obvious reasons. No one is going to actually buy the story you give as an excuse as to how you ended up a registered Sex offender.

I am highly skeptical that anyone has actually been so foolish as to actually do that- but if anyone is contemplating it- You would be very wise to reconsider.
 
Neverfly said:
It's pretty far illegal in the United States to answer the door naked.

If the door knocker wanted to press charges, you could be convicted easily and if so- As a Sex Offender.

As a Sex Offender, not only would you be sentenced- You would be required to Register as a Known Sex Offender and be registered as one for a minimum of 7 years.

This can be extremely disruptive in finding employment or in finding housing- For clearly obvious reasons. No one is going to actually buy the story you give as an excuse as to how you ended up a registered Sex offender.

I am highly skeptical that anyone has actually been so foolish as to actually do that- but if anyone is contemplating it- You would be very wise to reconsider.
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I have, however, answered the door in a towel because one prosletyzer knocked so forcefully and insistently, I thought it was some kind of emergency and I was in the shower at the time.
 
UnrepentantSinner said:
Cite?



Evidence?
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Where I live is in Texas- where I may be Biased toward that states laws.
Untied States:
In the United States indecent exposure is defined by state law as exposure of the genitals and/or the female breast in a public place and may in some states require evidence of intent to shock, arouse or offend other persons. Public place is any place where the conduct may reasonably be expected to be viewed by others.

The offense is variously titled "indecent exposure", "sexual misconduct", "public lewdness", or "public indecency". It is a criminal offense in all fifty states and is punishable by fines and/or imprisonment, and in some states a conviction results in having to register as a sex offender.
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This Includes deliberately making your nudity visible from private property

Texas:
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/pe.toc.htm
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.005.00.000021.00.htm#21.08.00
http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.005.00.000021.00.htm#21.07.00
 
ImaginalDisc said:
I have, however, answered the door in a towel because one prosletyzer knocked so forcefully and insistently, I thought it was some kind of emergency and I was in the shower at the time.
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A prosecutor would have to show Intent. See my above reply to Unrepentant.
 
Neverfly said:
In the time it took you to reply- there is no way you could possible have read squat.

Also, I cited Texas because I'm most familiar with it. Feel free to check out all the other states too.
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Hi newbie. PLease go back and see where I withdrew myself from your inane discussion. Argue with someone else please, I'm not interested in Claus' spawn starting arguments.
 
Ducky said:
Hi newbie. PLease go back and see where I withdrew myself from your inane discussion. Argue with someone else please, I'm not interested in Claus' spawn starting arguments.
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Gotta give me time to see it genius.
I already edited my post respectfully- and then you posted this nonsense.

1.) I advised people that legally, it's not a good idea to answer the door naked.
2.) You seem pissy because I admitted that I'm skeptical that anyone would have done such a follish thing. Too bad.
3.) I did not post my advise for the reason of arguing the point. I just posted it because it's not smart to answer the door in the nude hoping to shock someone.
 
Neverfly said:
Gotta give me time to see it genius.
I already edited my post respectfully- and then you posted this nonsense.

1.) I advised people that legally, it's not a good idea to answer the door naked.
2.) You seem pissy because I admitted that I'm skeptical that anyone would have done such a follish thing. Too bad.
3.) I did not post my advise for the reason of arguing the point. I just posted it because it's not smart to answer the door in the nude hoping to shock someone.
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Your pedantism is showing.
 
Neverfly said:
Where I live is in Texas- where I may be Biased toward that states laws.
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Me too. So lets check the the Texas statutes:

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.005.00.000021.00.htm#21.07.00

The closest thing I could find was indecent exposure under the sexual offenses section.
"Sec. 21.08. INDECENT EXPOSURE. (a) A person commits an offense if he exposes his anus or any part of his genitals with intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person, and he is reckless about whether another is present who will be offended or alarmed by his act.

(b) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor."

Bolding mine. That's a pretty high bar to claim someone who walks around naked in their house answering the door could become a registered sex offender.
 
UnrepentantSinner said:
Me too. So lets check the the Texas statutes:

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.005.00.000021.00.htm#21.07.00

The closest thing I could find was indecent exposure under the sexual offenses section.
"Sec. 21.08. INDECENT EXPOSURE. (a) A person commits an offense if he exposes his anus or any part of his genitals with intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person, and he is reckless about whether another is present who will be offended or alarmed by his act.

(b) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor."

Bolding mine. That's a pretty high bar to claim someone who walks around naked in their house answering the door could become a registered sex offender.
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Yes, it's up there with legs=drumsticks.
 
UnrepentantSinner said:
Me too. So lets check the the Texas statutes:

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.005.00.000021.00.htm#21.07.00

The closest thing I could find was indecent exposure under the sexual offenses section.
"Sec. 21.08. INDECENT EXPOSURE. (a) A person commits an offense if he exposes his anus or any part of his genitals with intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person, and he is reckless about whether another is present who will be offended or alarmed by his act.

(b) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor."

Bolding mine. That's a pretty high bar to claim someone who walks around naked in their house answering the door could become a registered sex offender.
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Well, walking around in your house naked is different from deliberately exposing yourself to those outside of your house.

And those were just quick things I could google up- and I'm not a lawyer.

You really would need to check professional Legal advise for a good clear explanation of the law.

But according to the quick descriptions of both federal and state laws, it's illegal to expose private parts where they can be seen publicly, including if it's done from private property.

Now, that section pasted does not mention whether or not registration is required- Again, an attorney would have to be asked for an in depth answer.
 
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