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Church shooting some kind of trend?

linusrichard said:
Being Satan, he'd only play in the league with the DH rule.
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Good point--that IS evil.

Seriously, though, aren't all demons supposed to be fallen angels of one sort or another?

(Notice I said "angels" and not "Angels"--lest we get into the topic of steroid abuse or corked bats.)
 
Neverfly said:
Anyway- sorry for the distraction and back on topic.:boxedin:
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Don't worry--KK has this thread well derailed from the original topic. I don't mind though, because I think my question has long been answered with a resounding, "No, there is no trend" since the shootings have very little in common.
 
Neverfly said:
Irrelevant.

My commentary was not about presenting an image, but how the group here presents ITSELF.

Diversity and manufactured image?
If I deal with a jerk, for example, I am not going to compliment him for his "diversity".

Is there a "manufactured" image present? Or an earned one?

What I posted about was personal responsibility. Same thing I must also be accountable to. It's also a personal choice. I stated my case- it's up to others to choose for themselves.

And thanks to you as well:)
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It's nice of you to not only "group" all posters together but to also make up rules for this "group" you have in your head.
 
tsig said:
It's nice of you to not only "group" all posters together but to also make up rules for this "group" you have in your head.
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Clearly, you understood none of what I said.
Explain, clearly and without straw men or red herrings, how I grouped posters together.

Then, once you have done that (Assuming that you're able to) explain in the same manner how my saying, "It's about personal responsibility, the choice is up to each poster" is my making rules?

This post of yours serves as an excellent example of how people completely distort what another person said, then use that distortion to reach conclusions.
 
Ducky said:
That's not what you said in this very thread. You said you were dying. Here, I'll refresh your memory:



Bolding mine. The implication here is that you are not dying in the "Sylvia Plath" sense. The implication is that you were dying period. Once again, it appears to me to be a cheap attempt to drum up sympathy and distract from the matter at hand - namely your words and lack of your owning them and the mistakes in them.



Posting a picture would be a start. However it is interesting you say that None of us can make a person believe if they choose not to, and yet you continue to preach at us.



You just said no one can make another person believe if that person chooses not to. Perhaps you should think about that more.



Interesting that you twist my pointing out how spiteful and arrogant your words are as not wishing you well. This is another example of an attempt to curry sympathy through creating a perception of persecution. Let me spell it out for you: You are not persecuted here. You chose to come here, you choose to stay. You choose to make statements that are offensive and insulting and when we respond you claim to be persecuted. This is not persecution. This is us pointing out that many of your statements are insulting, arrogant and usually contradictory.

As for your claim that you apologized three times in this thread for your "joke" I'll just point out that nowhere in this thread is an actual apology. Talking about apologizing and actually doing so are two different things.

As RT pointed out, we found the thread on your Christian forum in 2005. We found where they wisely told you it was a bad idea to come here. They told you exactly what would happen and their words are as true now as they were then. If you don't understand why you're here I'd say you should seriously consider doing something more constructive with your time.
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Just because you take my comments as insulting does not mean I intended it this way. We must just have a major personality conflict or something. Hey I thought you were a musician? Most creative types are fun and see the good in things so what is it about me that really bothers you? Is it perhaps that I am speaking the truth to you about your creator and you just choose to not accept it and find fault in me? I am not wanting to point fingers but I guess we all need to watch that one. I am sorry if I made you feel insulted this is not my intent but I am very serious when I share we all have a God whom we will one day answer to, like it or not it's just the way it is!

P.S. I am suffering in the body right now as I guess God has chosen my death will be by degenerative disk disease unless something else comes up first? I really do not want empathy if you do not feel like caring but I am certainly not lying about my disease. I am not even wanting to research how long it takes someone with my disease to go but I have had one of my orthos tell me because of my spine surgeries I should be prepared for a shorter life. That wasn't good news but I will make the best of it and trust God to get me through it all before I reach my final destination!
 
kurious_kathy said:
Just because you take my comments as insulting does not mean I intended it this way. We must just have a major personality conflict or something. Hey I thought you were a musician? Most creative types are fun and see the good in things so what is it about me that really bothers you? Is it perhaps that I am speaking the truth to you about your creator and you just choose to not accept it and find fault in me? I am not wanting to point fingers but I guess we all need to watch that one. I am sorry if I made you feel insulted this is not my intent but I am very serious when I share we all have a God whom we will one day answer to, like it or not it's just the way it is!
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This would be the first time in this thread you actually said "I'm sorry" instead of talking about saying you were sorry. Well done. The rest of that paragraph is pointless off topic drivel.

kurious_kathy said:
P.S. I am suffering in the body right now as I guess God has chosen my death will be by degenerative disk disease unless something else comes up first? I really do not want empathy if you do not feel like caring but I am certainly not lying about my disease. I am not even wanting to research how long it takes someone with my disease to go but I have had one of my orthos tell me because of my spine surgeries I should be prepared for a shorter life. That wasn't good news but I will make the best of it and trust God to get me through it all before I reach my final destination!
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Play at sympathy and load of bollocks. See DmKrispin's post.
 
kurious_kathy said:
Is it perhaps that I am speaking the truth to you about your creator and you just choose to not accept it and find fault in me?
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No, it's because you're bleating the same nonsense over and over, hijacking other discussions with this nonsense, and threatening everyone who doesn't agree with you with hellfire and damnation.

You are not speaking the truth. You are speaking WHAT YOU THINK is the truth. We do not agree with you. We've heard your "message" before, and you aren't adding anything to it to make us consider it any more truthful than the last time around. Your entire "proof" consists of "I just know it!" and similar empty statements. You've got nothing to contribute, and your badgering is getting very tiresome.

For the record, I am not an atheist. I am no longer a Christian. People like you had much to do with driving me away from your religion. Your constant nagging is not going to bring me back. From the sounds of it, it's not going to work on anyone else here, either. Give it up; all you're doing is creating more atheists.
 
KK, did you miss the part where I informed you (and everyone else here) that you are not dying from DDD? The information that you now claim to have gotten from your ortho is incorrect. Why would you see an ortho for this, anyway?? If you really do have DDD, you should be seen by a neuro and a pain management doc. You could at least try to get the basic facts and treatment if you're going to play the Victim Card with this. Sorry to cut in on your "noble suffering", but facts are facts.

Degenerative disc disease is not fatal. It does not "shorten your life". It means that one or more of your spinal discs is degenerating, not that you have some sort of fatal systemic degenerative disease. It means that you have "bad" discs and cause chronic pain that can be difficult to treat. That's it. Somebody stating that they're dying from DDD is as ridiculous as someone stating that they are dying from arthritis or dying from an old knee injury.

As for you moving the goalpost from "pity me 'cause I'm dying!" to "erm, what I really meant was 'shortened lifespan'" -- how, exactly,would spinal surgery do that? The big deal with the traditional surgery (fusion) is that the adjacent discs have an increased chance to fail due to the extra workload. The big deal with the artificial disc replacement surgery is that my insurance won't cover it, or I would have had it years ago! So, again, please tell me by what mechanism (other than the normal risks associated with any major surgery) does spinal surgery shorten the patient's life.

If you're going to play this game, you sure picked the wrong condition! Maybe it works on people who trust you, the ignorant, or the easily fooled but it ain't gonna fly here.
 
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kurious_kathy said:
Just because you take my comments as insulting does not mean I intended it this way. We must just have a major personality conflict or something. Hey I thought you were a musician? Most creative types are fun and see the good in things so what is it about me that really bothers you? Is it perhaps that I am speaking the truth to you about your creator and you just choose to not accept it and find fault in me? I am not wanting to point fingers but I guess we all need to watch that one. I am sorry if I made you feel insulted this is not my intent but I am very serious when I share we all have a God whom we will one day answer to, like it or not it's just the way it is!

P.S. I am suffering in the body right now as I guess God has chosen my death will be by degenerative disk disease unless something else comes up first? I really do not want empathy if you do not feel like caring but I am certainly not lying about my disease. I am not even wanting to research how long it takes someone with my disease to go but I have had one of my orthos tell me because of my spine surgeries I should be prepared for a shorter life. That wasn't good news but I will make the best of it and trust God to get me through it all before I reach my final destination!
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Kathy, you can play this song and dance all you like. You lie again, then lie some more to cover the previous lies. At this point, you're right: No one cares what's going to happen to you because you have made your presence so noxious by your perpetual falsehoods, that it's become pointless to even attempt to help you. You don't want help; you want to preach. YOU ARE NOT DYING FROM DDD!!!

Take a long, hard look at Ducky's avatar. Most of us who have been here a while have seen this, and we've learned the story behind it. Ducky, unlike you, was suffering from a very serious disease that was going to kill him. He was able to present evidence to that fact, and was even able to write a paper on his treatment and the potential outcome. (And if you ask nicely, or perhaps even if you don't ask at all, the link will be forthcoming. Big shock here, kiddo: If you read it, YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY LEARN SOMETHING!)

No one wishes you ill. No one ever has. All ANYONE has ever asked of you is to quit with the hit and run posting, to be honest, and to quit preaching. You won't. You're stuck on stupid. Even your fellow Christians on this board are sick of your lies and deceptions, and it becomes even more of an affront to read this filth you post because of the people I have come to respect on this board who have demonstrated greater Christianity than you're capable of because they are honest, they discuss, and they are willing to learn.

Just a suggestion: Grow up. Act like an adult for once in your life. Quit blaming everything on atheists hating Jesus, or on the Devil, or any other lame excuse. Try to accept responsibility for your own actions. Try to accept the fact that sometimes, sh** happens.

And for once in your life, when someone calls you on your lies, own up to it and quit trying to lay claim to the Sympathy Card. Not only do you lose any sympathy you might have gained, you thoroughly piss everyone else off.
 
DmKrispin is 100% correct. I too have DDD. I had to have a ruptured disc repaired 3 years ago - I still have chronic pain but it's not going to kill me. The only way that DDD could shorten your lifespan is by the pain keeping you from being active and therefore you become obese. Then it would be the obesity that would shorten your lifespan, NOT the DDD!
 
Kurious Kathy, you need to drop the Christian persecution complex. You aren't a martyr of some kind. Stop blaming others for not liking you and treating you like a twit, and turn around and look at yourself in the mirror, your posts, your behavior, and ask what the problem with YOU is.

Look, it doesn't matter if someone is doing it for what THEY perceive is a good cause, no one likes, respects, or believes someone who posts arrogant, condescending, unsupported assertions of opinions as if they are facts, and who is willing to have no regard for honesty in order to forward some sort of agenda, who loudly proclaims things the Truth with a capital T but can't actually provide any real, substantial evidence.

If you aren't willing to speak sensibly, support your arguments with evidence, answer questions that are put to you, actually engage in discussion versus preaching, and in short, behave like a rational adult, you shouldn't be surprised at the reaction you get.
 
Neverfly said:
Yes, my perception is based upon very little experience on Kathy's posts and history.
I can easily be wrong, but at least I put the point out there and if there IS a case for it, others can consider it and draw conclusions of their own.

Remember: The majority of readers are passing lurkers- not regulars. And if my interpretation is a common one then... Anyway- sorry for the distraction and back on topic.:boxedin:
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Yes, we must remember the lurkers... This sounds like the old "think about the children" canard.

In my opinion, it is important for any lurkers to see and understand how reasonable, rational people respond to the unmitigated drivel and full-on assault on reason KK engages in with every post she makes. If you would care to familiarize yourself with her posting style, you would see that she has never engaged anyone in debate here, but instead answers everything put to her with more "scripture" (the scare quotes are to denote her almost total lack of any understanding of scripture), or, worse yet, she'll insert herself into ongoing discussions with the same nonsense time and time again. It's almost as if she's impervious to the needs of others, and seems to be incapable of demonstrating any sympathy/empathy toward others.

KK is nominally a Christian, but her demonstrated behavior here contradicts this with every post she makes. I get the impression that she has insulated herself not only from mainstream society, but from almost all other Christians as well. More than anything, this alone earns her my pity.


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This is why I posted some time back that KK does not strike me as a real person. Rather, a program or robot- perhaps a smart parrot.

It does not think for itself or generate actual answers and responses.
Like many mimic bots, it has a series of pre programmed responses that are governed by what you say.


Now, of course, I am kidding when I make this claim. I do not actually think KK is a robot.
Right?
She's not... right?
 
Neverfly said:
This is why I posted some time back that KK does not strike me as a real person. Rather, a program or robot- perhaps a smart parrot.

It does not think for itself or generate actual answers and responses.
Like many mimic bots, it has a series of pre programmed responses that are governed by what you say.


Now, of course, I am kidding when I make this claim. I do not actually think KK is a robot.
Right?
She's not... right?
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Hmm, I don't know. Is DDD fatal to robots??
 
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