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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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DOC said:
Anything that can be perceived as a flaw did not come from God. And where did I admit to flaws in the bible? You and joobz have been making several false statements lately about what I've admitted to.
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The very fact that the bible relies/relied on human translation/transcription/translation is a major flaw, leading to multiple errors. If this document were so important, god should have been able to poof a few mimeograph machines into existence while he was busy with frogs, lichen, and such.

DOC said:
Since you know the soul does not exists you must have information that it would seem almost every culture in the history of the world (including your ancestors, the Polynesians) does not have.
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Nope, look up the concept of mana. As I have explained to you more than once, it doesn't translate to "soul" as you are thinking of it. Polynesian beliefs vary widely (there is no one Polynesian belief system), and Hawai'i did not have an afterlife as such, most people die dead. The closest you will get to that is the concept of 'aumakua, where certain ancestors remain as guardians, usually in the shape of an animal, rock or place, or person. Note, this is the actual ancestor, not simply a spirit inhabiting an animal. You must be very careful about your sources for Polynesian mythology, as a great deal of it was modified when contact with Western cultures was made.

And for the umpteenth time, why do you assume I have Polynesian ancestors? (Hint, I don't.)

But of course, we have been through this already, and this is another example of the dishonest tactics you repeatedly use where you either fail to read, fail to comprehend, or outright ignore things that are posted here in response to your spammy drivel.
 
Hokulele said:
And for the umpteenth time, why do you assume I have Polynesian ancestors? (Hint, I don't.)
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Using DOC logic: you surf, live near a beach, are apparently capable of posting on this forum(which seems to be magical to DOC), are atheistic (which of course makes you demon possessed) therefore you are of polynesian descent, are a cannibal and are one of the polynesian pagan gods come down to destroy the YHWH and Jesus....but deep inside you want to be touched by Jesus.
 
DOC said:
Many of the disorders Christ experienced in people were caused by evil forces which he cast out, and cured the people on the spot. ... It is no secret that Christianity has cured countless of addicts of their so call demons.
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Yabbut you never see a herd of swine simultaneously become heroin addicts, get skinny and die, do you?
 
Hokulele said:
So, any evidence that angels exist?
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Well other then the fact that angels are reported all over the bible by several different authors and are mentioned by Christ and Paul (the apostle), I do have a friend that quite seriously claims they saw two angels hovering by the ceilling in a church as a child.

So personally I have more evidence that angels exist than I have evidence that living organisms came from non-living chemicals.
 
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DOC said:
Well other then the fact that angels are reported all over the bible by several different authors and are mentioned by Christ and Paul (the apostle), I do have a friend that quite seriously claims they saw two angels hovering by the ceilling in a church as a child.

So personally I have more evidence that angels exist than I have evidence that living organisms came from non-living chemicals.
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Any particular reason they were hovering in a church?
 
DOC said:
So personally I have more evidence that angels exist than I have evidence that living organisms came from non-living chemicals.
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So? Your continued affinity for and spamming with arguments from ignorance is not evidence that angels exist for anyone other than the terminally deluded
 
To quote that most reliable of sources "The House at Pooh Corner"

When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.

I have certainly found this to be so.
 
DOC said:
Well other then the fact that angels are reported all over the bible by several different authors and are mentioned by Christ and Paul (the apostle), I do have a friend that quite seriously claims they saw two angels hovering by the ceilling in a church as a child.
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Wow, look at all the hearsay. Are you sure your friend didn't just see a ghost?

So personally I have more evidence that angels exist than I have evidence that living organisms came from non-living chemicals.
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And what exactly is your definition of evidence?
 
DOC said:
Well other then the fact that angels are reported all over the bible by several different authors and are mentioned by Christ and Paul (the apostle),
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So does the Koran and dozens of other holy books. Is this evidence that their religion is true as the Koran specifically claims that the Angel Gabriel gave Muhammad the wisdom of Allah.

I do have a friend that quite seriously claims they saw two angels hovering by the ceilling in a church as a child.
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So? Tens of thousands of people "quite seriously" claim to have been kidnapped by aliens, seen bigfoot, seen Ganesh and many other divinities. I have a friend who claims to have her meningitis cured by Kuan-Yin, the Goddess of Mercy.
So personally I have more evidence that angels exist than I have evidence that living organisms came from non-living chemicals.
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No, you have a single unverifiable anecdote that YOU claim to have heard from some mysterious friend.

Abiogenesis has a whole lot of data and evidence. Just because you are ignorant and delusional does not mean it does not exist.
 
DOC said:
Well other then the fact that angels are reported all over the bible by several different authors and are mentioned by Christ and Paul (the apostle), I do have a friend that quite seriously claims they saw two angels hovering by the ceilling in a church as a child.
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I don't doubt that he thought he saw something, I just doubt it was an angel. I'm sure you can understand why that's not convincing evidence, if you look at it from my point of view.
 
If a sinner is to be convinced God exists, then he has to first cease in being a sinner.
It is precisely his sins that will lead him to looking for and finding any evidence he can that there is no God.

Our world was created. The Sun and the moon are so perfectly in opposition, that the odds of this happenning by randomness are impossible to calculate.

g=1/r^2 (gravity) - not random - but precise design,
as is h^2=x^2+y^2 (pythagorus) - the perfect forms of a designed universe.

Did the human mind evolve from soup?
http://www.2010-south-africa.net/Evolution - A summary.htm
 
WaterBreather said:
Our world was created. The Sun and the moon are so perfectly in opposition,
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No, they are not.

that the odds of this happenning by randomness are impossible to calculate.
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Exactly since it is false.

g=1/r^2 (gravity) - not random - but precise design,
as is h^2=x^2+y^2 (pythagorus) - the perfect forms of a designed universe.
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Thanks. These are human made formulas. They were designed by humans.
Did the human mind evolve from soup?
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No. But it did evolve.
 
DOC said:
Well other then the fact that angels are reported all over the bible by several different authors and are mentioned by Christ and Paul (the apostle), I do have a friend that quite seriously claims they saw two angels hovering by the ceilling in a church as a child.
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And do you believe that Joseph smith translated the word of god provided to him by golden tablets. And do you believe that he handed these tablets back to angels?

If not, why not?

You do know that there are first hand signed statements of 8 witnesses who saw the tablets and 3 witnesses who saw the angel. These were first hand documented accounts.
 
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