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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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DOC,

I can imagine you're quite busy - perhaps going around in circles, who knows?

Whatever, you seem to have overlooked a couple of questions that I addressed specifically to you:

six7s said:
@ DOC:
Assuming that you DO consider that your bible accurately translates/represents the 'original works', please name the version

Also, please explain how you know/why you believe which - if any - versions in the following list (taken from www.biblegateway.com) is/are less accurate?
English

1. New International Version
2. New American Standard Bible
3. The Message
4. Amplified Bible
5. New Living Translation
6. King James Version
7. English Standard Version
8. Contemporary English Version
9. New King James Version
10. New Century Version
11. 21st Century King James Version
12. American Standard Version
13. Young's Literal Translation
14. Darby Translation
15. Holman Christian Standard Bible
16. New International Reader's Version
17. Wycliffe New Testament
18. Worldwide English (New Testament)
19. New International Version - UK
20. Today's New International Version
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Thank you
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Cheers
six7s
 
Hokulele said:
Wonderful, at least you aren't one of those "inerrant" types and do admit that there are flaws in the bible.
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Anything that can be perceived as a flaw did not come from God. And where did I admit to flaws in the bible? You and joobz have been making several false statements lately about what I've admitted to.
 
six7s said:
DOC,

I can imagine you're quite busy - perhaps going around in circles, who knows?

Whatever, you seem to have overlooked a couple of questions that I addressed specifically to you:

​

Cheers
six7s
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Ask the question again in another post without the first sentence and I might respond to it.
 
DOC said:
Anything that can be perceived as a flaw did not come from God. And where did I admit to flaws in the bible? You and joobz have been making several false statements lately about what I've admitted to.
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DOC, the bible either has errors or it doesn't.
You've admited to "flaws" in the bible, so how is this you not admitting to that the bible isn't inerrant?

Either there is non-biblical evidence of the ressurection or there isn't.
 
Hokulele said:
No, that is empathy or a conscience. That has nothing to do with a soul, since they do not exist.
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Since you know the soul does not exists you must have information that it would seem almost every culture in the history of the world (including your ancestors, the Polynesians) does not have.
 
DOC said:
Since you know the soul does not exists you must have information that it would seem almost every culture in the history of the world (including your ancestors, the Polynesians) does not have.
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Yup. It's called science.
It's the same source of information that allows us to know that psychological disorders are the results of pathoneurology and not demons.
 
DOC said:
Ask the question again in another post without the first sentence and I might respond to it.
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Being embarrassed by your inability to consistently lie for Jesus is no excuse for spamming this thread with woo
 
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DOC said:
What one person sees as an error might not be an error at all. Either our imperfect human minds don't fully understand the explanation yet or there is an explanation. For example the explanation I gave about the 2 angels.
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I saw that. It's a rather wishful thinking excuse.



DOC said:
Where did I admit to flaws in the Bible?
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DOC said:
To your mind it is in error, but those perceived errors can be a result of many things. For example a human copying error, or a human error in translation, ...
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It's hard for it to be a copying error and not a flaw at the same time.
 
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Yup. It's called science.
It's the same source of information that allows us to know that psychological disorders are the results of pathoneurology and not demons.
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Other than accidents what causes most psychological disorders? It would seem science knows very little about the causation.
 
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DOC said:
Other than accidents what causes most psychological disorders? It would seem science knows very little about causation.
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That's like asking what causes cancer. The reasons are many and varied.
But, we certainly know enough to be able to treat many disorders, including seizures.
Why didn't christ know the neurological cause of seizures?
 
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joobz said:
That's like asking what causes cancer. The reasons are many and varied.
But, we certainly know enough to be able to treat many disorders, including seizures.
Why didn't christ know the neurological cause of seizures?
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Many of the disorders Christ experienced in people were caused by evil forces which he cast out, and cured the people on the spot. And it would seem logical to conclude that the evil that is done to people as children (even today) causes many mental disorders. If evil is the cause in such cases then maybe only Christianity can be the cure. It is no secret that Christianity has cured countless of addicts of their so call demons.
 
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DOC said:
Many of the disorders Christ experienced in people were caused by evil forces which he cast out, and cured the people on the spot. And it would seem logical to conclude that the evil that is done to people as children (even today) causes many mental disorders. If evil is the cause in such cases then maybe only Christianity can be the cure. It is no secret that Christianity has cured countless of addicts of their so call demons.
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This is the reason such pathetic backward thinking needs to be stamped out and made as relevant as the believe in miasma caused disease.

DOC and his backward mindset retards humanity and leads the obvious bigotry directed towards mental disease.
 
DOC said:
Many of the disorders Christ experienced in people were caused by evil forces which he cast out, and cured the people on the spot.
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Why is it that since the advent of modern medicine, the number of "evil forces" causing mental problems has decreased to near zero?

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And it would seem logical to conclude that the evil that is done to people as children (even today) causes many mental disorders.
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So, what about the catholic priests (That the church protected) who did unimaginable acts of evil to children? Didn't seem like christianity helped them.
 
DOC said:
Many of the disorders Christ experienced in people were caused by evil forces which he cast out, and cured the people on the spot.
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And you know this how?

Please, do explain without resorting to circular (il)logic

Thank you
 
DOC said:
And it would seem logical to conclude that the evil that is done to people as children (even today) causes many mental disorders. If evil is the cause in such cases then maybe only Christianity can be the cure. It is no secret that Christianity has cured countless of addicts of their so call demons.
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Yes, things done to children can cause mental disorders. That does seem logical. However, "evil" is just your choice of descriptive word to describe those actions. So it's not that "evil" is the cause... evil is a generalized descriptive word you are using for some things which are themselves causes.

But in a sense, Christianity could be seen as a "cure" for certain problems, that much is true. It's just that this cure comes with baggage, which itself could cause other problems. In my view, even if Christianity could be considered a potential "cure" to certain evils, there are better cures.
 
DOC said:
I never claimed spambots have souls. You know what I meant. I meant one of my definitions of the soul would be living creatures who post thousands of messages on the Randi site have souls.
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If you're going to make ludicrous statements like that, expect to be ridiculed. Given that it is clear that thousands of messages can be posted on this site by simple pieces of software, that's not a very useful definition, as already pointed out by others.
You're just trying avoid coming right out and saying humans don't have souls. Your have to say it in a indirect way as evidenced by your last sentence above.

Do you have the courage to come right out a say human beings do not have souls? Yes, or No.
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You seem to have such a blinkered worldview that you think it takes courage to state that something for which there is no evidence does not exist. I don't believe in the existence of the soul as something separate from the physical body. I also don't believe in Father Christmas, the Tooth Fairy or God.
 
DOC said:
Many of the disorders Christ experienced in people were caused by evil forces which he cast out, and cured the people on the spot. And it would seem logical to conclude that the evil that is done to people as children (even today) causes many mental disorders. If evil is the cause in such cases then maybe only Christianity can be the cure. It is no secret that Christianity has cured countless of addicts of their so call demons.
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"Evil forces" You live in a world of your own,don't you?
 
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