9/11 Conspiracy Theorists: What are you doing to set KSM free?

[Bell]

Because of his treatment while is US custody it may be legally impossible to reach a verdict at all.

What kind of court is he being tried by?

The only thing I can comment you on is that you take part in this discussion, unlike the other truthers, who appearantly are to cowardish to come out. But then again you disappoint me by appearantly trying to weasel out.

Now, do you and the truthers have evidence that proves 9/11 was an inside job and KSM is thus innocent, yes or no? Thansk for answering.

 

[JihadJane]

The only thing I can comment you on is that you take part in this discussion, unlike the other truthers, who appearantly are to cowardish to come out. But then again you disappoint me by appearantly trying to weasel out.

Now, do you and the truthers have evidence that proves 9/11 was an inside job and KSM is thus innocent, yes or no? Thansk for answering.

I wonder what your assumption that “other truthers” must be "cowardish” says about your stance.

The assumption that there is a link between KSM’s guilt/innocence and whether or not 911 was an “inside job” is erroneous.

Sorry to disappoint you by not playing dtugg’s puerile frame game.

Do you know what kind of court the alleged KSM is being tried in?

 

[Bell]

I wonder what your assumption that “other truthers” must be "cowardish” says about your stance.

What do you think it says about my stance?

The assumption that there is a link between KSM’s guilt/innocence and whether or not 911 was an “inside job” is erroneous.

How so?

Sorry to disappoint you by not playing dtugg’s puerile frame game.

You're not disappointing me at all. I expected nothing else.

Do you know what kind of court the alleged KSM is being tried in?

How is KSM suddenly an alleged KSM?

 

[Arus808]

guys, please just have JJ answer the question in the first OP. He is purposefully taking you off topic with his side stepping and dodging. I dont see how a simple question, in the OP can go on for two pages, with many posts by JJ that doesn't address the OP, can go unanswered by JJ.

No other discussion is needed. Does our resident troofers have any plans on setting KSM free, since by their claims, KSM is just a patsy for the govt.

 

[twinstead]

The assumption that there is a link between KSM’s guilt/innocence and whether or not 911 was an “inside job” is erroneous.

If 911 was an inside job, then KSM is innocent. Unless KSM was part of the government plot. Then he was guilty. Or something like that.

Crap. As usual, now I'm confused. Can you just explain why its erroneous?

 

[Thunder]

JihadJane- why aren't you calling for the immediate release of KSM?

 

[stilicho]

Because of his treatment while is [in] US custody it may be legally impossible to reach a verdict at all.

Are you truthfully explaining your position as equivalent to US institutions such as the ACLU? The ACLU has never argued that 9/11 was an inside job.

(Source: http://www.aclu.org/safefree/detention/35536prs20080605.html )

See, JihadJane, most of the people on JREF know your game. Instead of stating anything, you do what I just did and Googled the ACLU's position on KSM's conditions of confinement.

But the ACLU has never quoted (as you have) Michael C Ruppert as a valid source for beginning an investigation into any of the perpetrators of 9/11. You have. So now you are faking it. You have no interest whatsoever in what the ACLU says unless it diverts attention from your 'truther' proclivities. You already know that KSM is innocent because you have already said that Michael C Ruppert was right.

Any of us here, myself included, who are strongly opposed to the legal machinations of the Bush Administration have no interest in your pretenses.

 

[zorro99]

The answer to the question posed in the opening thread is that the Twoofers are doing nothing to set KSM free. And the reason they are doing nothing to set KSM free is because that would require them to clearly enunciate their theories and support them with evidence, something they are either unwilling and/or unable to do.

 

[Cylinder]

Do you know what kind of court the alleged KSM is being tried in?

KSM faces charges before a military commission. Your point is...?

 

[JihadJane]

JihadJane- why aren't you calling for the immediate release of KSM?

When did you stop beating your wife?

Instead of stating anything, you do what I just did and Googled the ACLU's position on KSM's conditions of confinement.

I didn't Google anything. Go easy on the Remote viewing!

You already know that KSM is innocent because you have already said that Michael C Ruppert was right.

Please give a reference showing where Ruppert has said that KSM is innocent.

If 911 was an inside job, then KSM is innocent. Unless KSM was part of the government plot. Then he was guilty. Or something like that.

Crap. As usual, now I'm confused. Can you just explain why its erroneous?

It is standard MO for covert operations to use criminals, terrorists etc as assets. The worse the better!

http://88.80.13.160/wiki/Unconventi...US_surrogates,_terrorists_and_narcotrafficers

KSM faces charges before a military commission. Your point is...?

What chance is there that truth can emerge in such a context, especially when the military themselves could be complicit in KSM's alleged crimes?

Does dtugg really believe that anyone has a chance of setting KSM free? (See my question to Parky76, above).

How is KSM suddenly an alleged KSM?

How has this man’s identity been established?

 

[dtugg]

What chance is there that truth can emerge in such a context, especially when the military themselves could be complicit in KSM's alleged crimes?

Shouldn't his lawyer at least be aware of any evidence that might exonerate him?

Does dtugg really believe that anyone has a chance of setting KSM free? (See my question to Parky76, above).

No, because I think he did it and all the "evidence" twoofers have is complete BS. That, however, is completely besides the point that I was making by starting this thread. If twoofers had any integrity whatsoever they would contact KSM's lawyers and let them know about their supposed evidence. The fact that you are the only one replying to this thread and you apparently believe that he did it, is very telling about twoofers' character.

How has this man’s identity been established?

It hasn't! They just picked some random Muslim guy, and beat him until he thought he was KSM!



ETA:
You little theory about KSM being guilty but doing it as part of a CIA operation is probably the only 9/11 MIHOP theory that is even possible, albeit still implausible and totally unsupported by evidence. Perhaps if the twoof movement had gone with that instead of thermite, giant lasers, controlled demolition, fake phone calls, fake planes, no planes, flyover planes, ect, they wouldn't be the complete laughing stock that they are today.

 

[JihadJane]

Shouldn't his lawyer at least be aware of any evidence that might exonerate him?

Why do you assume his lawyer is less aware than your favorite troofuzz pets? Possibly he/she might even be given access to documents denied to members of the public.

No, because I think he did it and all the "evidence" twoofers have is complete BS. That, however, is completely besides the point that I was making by starting this thread. If twoofers had any integrity whatsoever they would contact KSM's lawyers and let them know about their supposed evidence. ...

The moralistic psychologist/priest persona sits uncomfortably with the juvenile sandpit language.

... The fact that you are the only one replying to this thread and you apparently believe that he did it, is very telling about twoofers' character.

It says whatever you want it to say, apparently.

Or are you psychic?

It hasn't! They just picked some random Muslim guy, and beat him until he thought he was KSM!

Do you know how this man's identity has been established?

ETA:
You little theory about KSM being guilty but doing it as part of a CIA operation is probably the only 9/11 MIHOP theory that is even possible, albeit still implausible and totally unsupported by evidence. Perhaps if the twoof movement had gone with that instead of thermite, giant lasers, controlled demolition, fake phone calls, fake planes, no planes, flyover planes, ect, they wouldn't be the complete laughing stock that they are today.

What's your priority? Laughing at your carefully selected pets or investigating crime?

ETA: CIA?

 

[funk de fino]

Do you know how this man's identity has been established?

There are not enough laughing dogs in the world for that classic.

 

[Horatius]

Unless KSM was part of the government plot. Then he was guilty.

And if they had evidence for this, they should still contact the lawyers involved - they could actually have him convicted based on his part in the conspiracy!


So really, there's no reason at all for them to stay silent - if they can prove their claims, as they assert they can.

 

[Horatius]

What chance is there that truth can emerge in such a context, especially when the military themselves could be complicit in KSM's alleged crimes?

Does dtugg really believe that anyone has a chance of setting KSM free? (See my question to Parky76, above).

I can tell you there's zero chance if you don't even try.

As I've said before, the saddest part of the CT mindset is in how, in believing that "they" control everything, the CTists basically give up even trying to have any sort of useful effect.

 

[Sunstealer]

I'm sure there must be a way to do this an remain anonymous or be protected like "whistle-blowers". Why don't they just get in touch and send their evidence?

I can't believe that anyone would stand by and let an innocent man go to prison or worse if they had evidence that would lead to his freedom. How would you feel if you knew you had the answer but just stood by, posting that evidence on internet forums instead of actually doing something constructive? It's bizarre.

 

[1337m4n]

Who cares if KSM might be "in on it"?

Who cares if the trial is rigged and KSM will be found guilty no matter what?

The point is, this is a golden opportunity for the Truth Movement to get its "evidence" into the public eye.

Why do they remain passive?

 

[stilicho]

Originally Posted by stilicho
Instead of stating anything, you do what I just did and Googled the ACLU's position on KSM's conditions of confinement.

I didn't Google anything. Go easy on the Remote viewing!

So can you explain to me how your opinions about KSM and his conditions of confinement are identical to those of the ACLU?

As for what you and Ruppert believe about KSM, you are being coy. In his "famous" Commonwealth Club speech, he stated that the "official story" on 9/11 has never been proved. He specified KSM and Ramzi Bin Al-Shibh as the missing "key witnesses".

In Ruppert's own words, then, KSM is a "key witness" and not a perpetrator. I think a Ruppert groupie like yourself would have been aware of this.

But, of course, you are aware of all of this. By picking out the nits and asking people to summarise what you already know, you can not-so-deftly avoid answering the question posed in the OP.

When will you face up to the facts?

 

[funk de fino]

I would feel a fool if I recommended a book in the politics section and then found out later a lot of the claims in it come from a proven con man and paedo.

How many ways are there to spell gullible?

 

[Homeland Insurgency]

I'm not doing anything to set KSM free. I'm not even going to bake him a cake with a file in it.

Some terrorist sympathizer I am huh?

See? Maybe some of you should be careful on how you throw that name calling around for now on.

It is all that dummed down and simple right?