Heliport tower ATC Sean Boger: ultimate validation of the north side approach

[nicepants]

"He says he hit the deck so logic would dictate that he did this as the plane hit." Good stuff TLB? Or greatest stuff?

TLB is now claiming that the plane didn't hit.....so the "logic" falls apart.

 

[The Big Dog]

I'm sure someone will already have asked this, but can someone provide me to a link detailing a walkthrough of where forensic scientists found the DNA samples that were recovered at the Pentagon? Have any 'independent' groups had access to all this data?

Surely all this 'evidence' hasn't been accepted on faith, has it?

Of course not.

In addition to the foregoing links, the evidence of the the DNA scientists "detailing a walkthrough of where forensic scientists found the DNA samples that were recovered at the Pentagon" was in fact provided to not only to the Moussaoui defense team but also Judge Leonie Brinkema and the jury.

I trust you are satisfied, hmmm?

 

[John Blonn]

Let's operate for a sec with TLB's standards of evidence.

Multiple witnesses claimed that a plane hit the Pentagon. Multiple corroborating accounts mean that the event happened; you can't handwave them away. The North side theory and the plane impact are mutually exclusive. Therefore the North Side theory is false.

NO witnesses have claimed to see a flyover. Without multiple corroborating accounts, an event isn't true. The North Side theory needs a flyover. Therefore the North side theory is false.

laters

 

[HyJinX]

What TLB hates to see is this DIRECT QUOTE from Sean Boger. I repeat...HIS DIRECT QUOTE!!!!!

"I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building. It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building."

http://www.geocities.com/someguyyoudontknow33/witnesses.htm

...and there are a hell of lot more eye-witnesses than Mr. Bogers.

You have nothing. If you continue to be so dishonest...well...you are nothing.

 

[Mr.Herbert]

Surely all this 'evidence' hasn't been accepted on faith, has it?

Ragnarok, you would be wise not to follow in the the abyss of stupid that Ranke preaches. The sentence above sounds just like something Ranke would spew.

Whether or not it's hypothetically "possible" to recover the DNA this evidence is automatically invalid.

To accept it as valid one must work off pure unadulterated faith in the government.
Faith based evidence is not scientific.
Nobody knows where it really came from.
The individuals who analyzed the DNA are not the same people who allegedly recovered it from the Pentagon.
The suspect completely controlled the chain of custody and provided all of this information on their own time therefore it is invalid evidence in support of their story.
No court of law would accept DNA analysis reports that were conducted solely by the defendant!

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread342278/pg1

 

[beachnut]

But I guess it's much more comforting to not look at all of the evidence. Too bad for you that the northern approach isn't going away and definitively proves the official account false.

CIT does not look at hard evidence. CIT wave their hands and make moronic comments and say 77 did not hit the Pentagon; a lie.

I doubt CIT will drop their lies and the delusion of a North flight path they have never published due to being impossible to fly!

And what are they working hard on at CIT?

TLB is too slow with updates so I sent my web-bot to CIT fantasyland forum to get the latest Boger update and investigate or gain some insight why A.Marquis and Craig can’t investigate 911 without messing it up.

What did the bot find? He brought back the new stuff A.Marquis is working on and I thought it would shed light on Boger and how they messed up 15:08 minutes of video:

Bill "Pinch" Paisley, obsessoid. Angry military goon who simply cannot accept that the plane flew on the north side of the Citgo or any of the other evidence we have uncovered. Shows extreme prejudice and aggression towards 9/11 truthseekers. Needs a traitor's trial.

Oops, they are not working on exposing the Boger story to the world (most likely due to the fact Boger saw Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, and does so with 10 foot precision!).

They are working on their enemy list and planning Pinch’s traitor’s trial.

Good work obsessoid A.Marquis, you messed up the Boger interview, and now you are planning your takeover when idiots take over the world. It has happened before when total idiots take over; you could get lucky because you have no knowledge and sound judgment to takeover, you will have to force, you have no real intelligence to make it happen.

BTW, Boger said he saw 77 hit the Pentagon in 2001, and told everyone in 2001 and he is backed up with hard physical evidence, and he told CIT again he saw 77 hit the Pentagon, thus the obsessoid A.Marquis proved Boger saw 77, but obsessoid A.Marquis picked delusions.

I have no clue what an obsessoid A.Marquis is. Like obsessoid A.Marquis has no clue what happen on 911.

Boger said, CIT confirmed –

"I just looked up and I saw the big nose and the wings of the aircraft coming right at us and I just watched it hit the building. It exploded. I fell to the ground and covered my head. I could actually hear the metal going through the building."

 

[Baylor]

Ragnarok, you would be wise not to follow in the the abyss of stupid that Ranke preaches. The sentence above sounds just like something Ranke would spew.


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread342278/pg1

Spanke
Whether or not it's hypothetically "possible" to recover the DNA this evidence is automatically invalid.
To accept it as valid one must work off pure unadulterated faith in the government.
Faith based evidence is not scientific.
Nobody knows where it really came from.
The individuals who analyzed the DNA are not the same people who allegedly recovered it from the Pentagon.
The suspect completely controlled the chain of custody and provided all of this information on their own time therefore it is invalid evidence in support of their story.
No court of law would accept DNA analysis reports that were conducted solely by the defendant!

What a bunch of crap that comment was. So what he's saying is we shouldn't trust people who spent years studying proper crime scene investigation, forensic methodology, and genetics, but we should believe two obnoxious asshats who spend their time pounding away comment after comment on Internet forums. The structure of civilization would crumble if we were to trust the latter as opposed the former. There was a time when people trusted those who were untrained in biology over those who were. It was called the Dark Ages.

 

[Alt+F4]

So what he's saying is we shouldn't trust people who spent years studying proper crime scene investigation, forensic methodology, and genetics, but we should believe two obnoxious asshats who spend their time pounding away comment after comment on Internet forums.

Yes, that's exactly what he is saying.

 

[T.A.M.]

last I checked Moussaoui didn't collect the DNA samples, nor did OBL or any of his peeps.

TAM

 

[ref]

Wrong.

CMH released transcripts and audio recordings from witnesses who CIT would video record on location specifically placing the plane in a right bank on the northern approach just as described by heliport tower ATC Sean Boger in the exclusive interview presented in the OP.

Did you bother to listen to it?



He was the first researcher to talk to any witnesses direct (via email) and uncovered the fact that Sgt Lagasse was on the "starboard" side of the craft revealing the first piece confirmed direct of evidence for NoC.



You coincidence theorists are amazing.

Respected professional journalists worked on a world historical piece and created animations that almost perfectly represents three important (and fatal) aspects of the flight path as reported by CIT. East of the river, over the Navy Annex, and north of the citgo.



All first-hand eyewitness evidence from the people in this most critical area to determine the location of the plane at this final moment unanimously agree on a northern approach.

Not a single first-hand account exists to refute them.



If you support permanent war, the slaughter of 10's of thousands of innocent people, and 100's of billions of dollas of defense and rebuilding contracts issued based solely on a lie I could see where it wouldn't be.

Did you know that heliport tower ATC Sean Boger corroborates all the other witnesses regarding a north side approach?

But you made one gross misrepresentation. The CIT are the only entity (besides maybe Dick Eastman), who actually claim that the plane did not hit the Pentagon, because it was NOC. CMH does not claim that. National Geographic sure don't claim that.

So in fact, the theory that the plane was NOC and thus did not hit the Pentagon was first brought up by CIT in 2006. Not CMH in 2001, nor National Geographic in 2004. You just exploit their material to support your conclusions.

 

[Baylor]

So in fact, the theory that the plane was NOC and thus did not hit the Pentagon was first brought up by CIT in 2006.

Actually Tricky Dick Eastman proposed the "Zionist-engineered south-path-killer-jet-with-weaponized-air-vortices insanity, and its north-path-decoy-flyover" theory. So, in good twoofer fashion, "Citizen [sic] Investigation Team" ripped a page out of the anti-semitic Guns & Ammo subscribing survivalist's playbook. But they changed it up a bit. Either they thought the above "theory" was too stupid, or they wanted to pretend like they "discovered" some of the "evidence" for themselves. So they came up with the "stationary explosives" idea. Not as imaginative as Eastman's idea, but just as stupid.

 

[1337m4n]

Which path does Boger support? Boger places the plane on the path that hits the Pentagon.

Which path is that? You tell me TLB.

 

[ref]

Actually Tricky Dick Eastman proposed the "Zionist-engineered south-path-killer-jet-with-weaponized-air-vortices insanity, and its north-path-decoy-flyover" theory. So, in good twoofer fashion, "Citizen [sic] Investigation Team" ripped a page out of the anti-semitic Guns & Ammo subscribing survivalist's playbook. But they changed it up a bit. Either they thought the above "theory" was too stupid, or they wanted to pretend like they "discovered" some of the "evidence" for themselves. So they came up with the "stationary explosives" idea. Not as imaginative as Eastman's idea, but just as stupid.

Yea, I meant to include Eastman in that sentence of mine (as I did in the previous paragraph ).

 

[chillzero]

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[jaydeehess]

There was a time when people trusted those who were untrained in biology over those who were. It was called the Dark Ages.

Indeed, I have never actually looked through a microscope and seen a microbe and I have never witnessed one infect any cell in my body. My doctor is paid by the Provincial government and so I must always suspect that when I tell the doc that I have a fever and my head is clogged and he informs me that I have influenza viruses infecting my body, he is telling me a lie.
If I get a blood test and it comes back with bad results I must always suspect that I am being told a lie.
If I am shown a CT scan and told something I should always suspect that it has been fabricated. After all, the doctor is only out for himself and needs me to be sick to get paid for treating me.

 

[TheLoneBedouin]

So in fact, the theory that the plane was NOC and thus did not hit the Pentagon was first brought up by CIT in 2006. Not CMH in 2001, nor National Geographic in 2004. You just exploit their material to support your conclusions.

This is one of the strangest comments I have ever read.

It's not the fault of CIT that the plane had to have been on the south side for the official story to be true.

It's not their fault that a northern approach was reported by the CMH, National Geographic, and every single witness they interviewed.

Their "conclusion" simply exits because of this overwhelming evidence.

Not the other way around.

CIT did not create the evidence. They simply reported it.

 

[dtugg]

Hey TLB, Craig says he interviewed dozens of witnesses. How many are included in their "evidence" again?

 

[The Big Dog]

It's not their fault that a northern approach was reported by the CMH, National Geographic, and every single witness they interviewed.

Their "conclusion" simply exits because of this overwhelming evidence.

Not the other way around.

CIT did not create the evidence. They simply reported it.

The National Geographic report is not “evidence,” c’mon TLB, that does not even pass the straight face test.

Your claim that CIT simply reported the evidence is demonstrably, utterly false. You should know better. Case in point Boger. He said the plane hit the freaking Pentagon. CIT flat out made up that BS about him logically hitting the deck and deducing the impact.

So the claim that CIT reports the evidence is flat out false. You proved it yourself in this thread. Kindly stop parroting CIT's lies.

 

[DGM]

TLB:
HOW WAS THE WITNESS STATEMENTS VERIFIED?

You keep saying they are somehow proof of something but have yet to say how they were confirmed. Please tell.

 

[TheLoneBedouin]

Hey TLB, Craig says he interviewed dozens of witnesses. How many are included in their "evidence" again?

That would be dozens.

Go back and watch all of their presentations, read through their threads, and count for yourself if you don't believe it.