Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth

[dtugg]

You can't figure out why they would use thermite and explosives so therefore it didn't happen. Do you realize how vacant that argument is?

Since you know everything why don't you tell us why the hell they would use both explosives and an incindiary never before used to destroy a building.

There were no fires on the lower floors.

Oh, I see. They exploded bombs in the lower floors and then some time later, the buildings collapsed from the top down. Only in CT fantasyland does this make any sense.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

You can't figure out why they would use thermite and explosives so therefore it didn't happen. Do you realize how vacant that argument is?

Then explain it for those of us who are absent minded. And while you are at it, explain how -- if the objective is a silent demo -- explosives with such power to eject whole sections of the towers 500 ft were not heard with the noise equivalent of a mini-nuke, or the thousands of added shrapnel injuries and toal window blowout of all the nearby surrounding buildings.

 

[Bell]

There were no fires on the lower floors.

Just wow...

 

[Seymour Butz]

Well, to cover up the booming, Armageddon-level roar of the basement mini-nukes, of course, silly! DUH!!!

LMAO...

Sad thing is, if you were to look long and hard, I'm SURE that someowhere, a conspiracy loon has actually claimed this...

 

[R.Mackey]

There were no fires on the lower floors.

This is a flagrant lie. Fires were reported on floors all the way down to Floor 60 in WTC 2, and the basement levels in WTC 1, before either collapse, and even before evacuation began. See Figures 6-1 and 7-4 of NCSTAR1-7.

You still haven't learned to distinguish your own delusion from fact, so back on Ignore you go. I advise others to learn the facts from a reliable source, not this individual.

 

[dtugg]

LOL! I knew he was lying about that but I couldn't remember exactly where the fires were.

 

[Bell]

LOL! I knew he was lying about that but I couldn't remember exactly where the fires were.

We have pictures!!

 

[Christopher7]

Then explain it for those of us who are absent minded.

Certainly.

The only explanation for the 700 bone fragments on top of a building 250 feet away is explosions. If there were 700 bone fragments in a space 200' by 200' then there were thousands of bone fragments scattered in that direction. This was not caused by the airplane impacts.

 

[dtugg]

How the hell does that explain why the used both thermite and explosives?

 

[DGM]

Certainly.

The only explanation for the 700 bone fragments on top of a building 250 feet away is explosions. If there were 700 bone fragments in a space 200' by 200' then there were thousands of bone fragments scattered in that direction. This was not caused by the airplane impacts.

[qimg]http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3366/bonefragmentsms9.jpg[/qimg]

So the plane parts were planted?

 

[T.A.M.]

There is nothing else it could be.

The images are reasonably accurate as to color. The color chart is not exact nor does it need to be. The approximate temperature of the molten metal can be ascertained by comparing the photos to the chart.

The only known cause of the molten metal is thermite.
The numerous accounts of explosions from first responders, videos of survivors on 9/11 telling of explosions and radio calls from firefighters in the towers reporting explosions, are evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that there were numerous explosions before and during the collapses.

The bone fragments on top of a 560 foot building 250 feet away are proof positive of explosives. It would be impossible for falling floors to crush people and then eject their bone fragments 250-300 feet laterally.

BS
BS
BS

So much BS so concentrated in a couple of paragraphs is mesmerizing to say the least. You get so many things absolutely wrong, make no wonder you believe the tripe you do.

TAM

 

[lapman]

The only explanation for the 700 bone fragments on top of a building 250 feet away is explosions.

You're absolutely correct. There was an explosion.

 

[lapman]

Wrong. You guys are saying that there were no sounds of explosions. The firefighters reported otherwise.

No, we are saying that there were no sounds of EXPLOSIVES. There is a difference. More importantly, there were no sounds of EXPLOSIVES going off in the specific sequence that would cause the towers to collapse the way it did recorded ANYWHERE.

Red will handwave this away in 3..2..1..

 

[T.A.M.]

If the assertion is that there were no sounds of explosions in the towers and WTC 7, then you guys are calling the firefighters liars.

Wrong. You guys are saying that there were no sounds of explosions. The firefighters reported otherwise.

I've called Silverstein a liar. I've never called a firefighter a liar. Quote me or retract the statement.

ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!

There is no audio or video evidence of explosives being detonated before or after the plane impacts or prior to the collapses.

There is plenty of evidence, in terms of witness testimony, of loud noises that were either described as, or to the person were interpreted as, EXPLOSIONS!!!

EXPLOSIONS DO NOT ALWAYS, OR EVEN MOST OF THE TIME, MEAN EXPLOSIVES!!!!

Do we have that? Is that now clear for everyone??????????

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND CHRIST!

TAM

 

[twinstead]

It is indeed like somebody arguing that freight trains are the real culprits behind 'tornado' damage, and using witness accounts that they heard what sounded like a freight train during the tornado as evidence.

It's just silly

 

[GlennB]

How did 700 bone fragments land on top of 130 Liberty St. if not by explosions?

From the aircraft impact on the N Tower. This sent (heaven help us ) small debris - including body parts - in that general direction and also upwards. The breeze was from the NW. Small fragments would easily make their way there. Conceivably the initial S Tower aircraft impact and fireball could cause the same.

The alternative would be your "manufactured" explosions which were conspicuous by their absence. Chris - the whole damn evil process of 9/11 was filmed and photographed extensively. The only event capable of sending those bone fragments to that location were the plane impacts. This is so obvious I'm amazed you can't comprehend it. However -- if you disagree - please show us one event, other than the plane impacts, that could cause the effect we are discussing.

 

[RedIbis]

ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!

There is no audio or video evidence of explosives being detonated before or after the plane impacts or prior to the collapses.

There is plenty of evidence, in terms of witness testimony, of loud noises that were either described as, or to the person were interpreted as, EXPLOSIONS!!!

EXPLOSIONS DO NOT ALWAYS, OR EVEN MOST OF THE TIME, MEAN EXPLOSIVES!!!!

Do we have that? Is that now clear for everyone??????????

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND CHRIST!

TAM

Relax. Your frustration (and lack of smilie) is a sure sign you are insecure in your position.

 

[T.A.M.]

Relax. Your frustration (and lack of smilie) is a sure sign you are insecure in your position.

No Red. I am not insecure in my position one bit. Not in the slightest. The reason for my "frustration" (with intentional lack of smilie) is I am fed up with people using this bit of ridiculous nonsense.

YOU KNOW FULL WELL, that a wide variety of things can produce explosions besides explosives, many of which were within the WTCs on that day.

So why is this crap still being bantered about????

That is why I am frustrated.

TAM

 

[Bell]

Real world: Explosions = similie (loud noises and in fires things explode)
Truther world: Explosions = smilie ( they used explosives!!1!)

 

[RedIbis]

No Red. I am not insecure in my position one bit. Not in the slightest. The reason for my "frustration" (with intentional lack of smilie) is I am fed up with people using this bit of ridiculous nonsense.

YOU KNOW FULL WELL, that a wide variety of things can produce explosions besides explosives, many of which were within the WTCs on that day.

So why is this crap still being bantered about????

That is why I am frustrated.

TAM

Probably because there are multiple accounts of firefighters who thought the sequential nature of the explosions suggested bombs or explosives.