What?! These testimonies aren't what I've been reading. Unless you can provide reliable references I must quote Stalin or somebody...your efforts are ruthless,
These come from my webpage where I list the references so I CAN prove it (unless the sources simply fabricated the information - which I doubt). If you are not interested in checking up on those references, that is your problem. However, I suggest you try looking up the NUFORC database, where I collected most of them (a few others came from newspapers and Bill Hamilton's MUFON summary). It is on line:
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports.html
I collected these reports I listed and others (they are all on my website) from the NUFORC database in November of 1997. At the time the database was pretty small. There were something like 15-20 reports from March 13th in there. Some were vague and gave no data (like location, direction, etc) and were essentially worthless. Those that provided something I listed. Meanwhile, the database changed as people enter in their stories over the years. They may have remembered seeing the lights and then saw UFO hunters or something else where the large black object was shown. They then entered their sighting at NUFORC and told their stories which were possibly influenced by what was portrayed on TV. So, when looking at the database, you really have to take stories entered years later (he does list the date entered and reported) with a grain of salt. The most reliable reports are the ones entered shortly after the event. Remember the old chinese proverb "The faintest ink is better than the best memory".
I'm sure you told me about the dispensers, but I can't verify them either,
The dispensers were in use in the late 1990s. I can not verify they were in use in this case but I also discovered the Luu-2 flares can be mounted on bomb racks. Depending on the size of the rack, you can have at least three or more per hard point. Each plane probably carried a dozen or so flares and maybe more. Remember there were 11 hard points on the craft. Jones is quoted as saying one pilot dropped up to ten flares, which seems possible if they were using the dispensers or they had them mounted on racks. However, I doubt that each craft only carried four as stated by UFOlogist Bill Hamilton long ago. I am not sure where he got that number anyway.
what about logs. Why can't Bienz look up logs. Names on logs, type of aircraft in her "spare time" since she was aggravated enough to do it once, without much to say.
Bienz looked up the logs and it stated so in the article. I recall UFOlogists wanting to FOIA the logs, which they could do. Apparently, they did not bother or they discovered the logs reflected the story. The pilots names are usually blacked out in documents acquired under FOIA. It is a privacy issue if I recall. Names can not be released to the public without the persons permission or something like that.
I did a Macabee report search and clicked on the first link, maybe you should give me your link because what I found , he said "Whatever it is, it is real...with implications that extend far beyond UFO sighting investigation.Sometimes...often...I wish they would go away because they introduce another uncertainty into civilzation, which is uncertain enough already" this is his response to question 11 about the gulf breeze ufo
Maccabee is a long time proponent of UFOs and aliens. He was a big supporter of the Gulf Breeze UFO (of course he made money endorsing Walters book), which many in UFOlogy consider a hoax (I have a lengthy webpage devoted to that as well but that needs to be in another thread). However, getting back to his report, I don't understand why you did not go to the link provided several times in this thread. When you get past all the math demonstrating location, drift rates, angular size, etc. it concludes that the lights were very distant and were consistent with flares.
Here is the link AGAIN:
http://brumac.8k.com/phoenixlights1.html
Have you checked in on Maccabees latest report?
If you are referring to his interview you linked, I am not sure what that has to do with the Phoenix event. At best it demonstrates that BM wanted to prove they are alien in nature but could not. Instead, he sided with the flare explanation. If you can't get an ET proponent to agree they are alien, then your evidence is on shaky ground indeed and they probably were flares. I suggest you read his report and analysis. It specifically addresses the Phoenix event and not something else.
