No.
It's proof that an ape that was larger than current apes lived in the past. The distant past.
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It's proof that an ape that was larger than current apes lived in the past. The distant past.
I once saw the end of a bigfoot movie. The humans ran to their vehicles blasting away with machine guns, then fled. Roll credits. But i would have liked to the the next few hours, during which the surviving sasquatches would have to gather up their dead, dispose of the bodies so no traces were left, wipe away most of the footprints, vacuum up all the fallen hair, or substitute bear fur, and set off the emp bomb to fuzz all the photos. And then they have to travel a long distance to use their secret outhouses.
well pepper, if squatch exists, its just like any other animal, and ive hiked and backpacked for years now, and never, i mean never, have found the remains of a cougar or bear. so i can understand why it hasnt been found, but therre r reasons why im skeptical about it.
peter byrne once said:
The Pacific Northwest here, to give you an example of it’s size and it’s ability to hide things hides 73 aircraft lost from Northern California to Alaska since World War 2! That’s an official FAA figure, it’s not just a myth, it’s not just a newspaper story."
peter byrne once said:
The Pacific Northwest here, to give you an example of it’s size and it’s ability to hide things hides 73 aircraft lost from Northern California to Alaska since World War 2! That’s an official FAA figure, it’s not just a myth, it’s not just a newspaper story."
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I bet you never found the remains of Giganto on any of your hikes either, did you? "YOU" have never found the remains of a cougar or bear....key focus being "you". Plenty of others have found the remains of bear and cougar, not to mention live specimens of both. No one anywhere has ever found the remains of bigfoot(or a live specimen), unless they're keeping it themselves.
By the way, I have seen the remains of a bear...hit by a car, something that never happens to bigfoot, despite many sightings occurring on/near roads.
It's not a useless analogy, it's an uncomfortable one....for bigfoot believers.
Bigfoots do exist too, they are simply bears, trees, men in suits, or strange rock formations, so they exist as something.
Sasquatch isn't even a Native American word, is it?
That's a few more jaws and teeth than we have of bigfoot, a creature that is supposedly still roaming the entire planet even as I type this. No one can find one bone from a recent death, or one from hundreds of years ago, but we managed to find the remains of Giganto, who died out a million or so years ago. It is damning...for bigfoot.
I've posted this before, but you appear to be relatively new here.
The reason they remain hidden has to do with the fact that bigfoot beasts lay eggs and carry their young in pouches.
Why don't we see more them? Because they spend so much time squatting on their eggs. So, while they are tall, they spend lots of time squatting (hence the name saSQUATch.
Why are the footprints goofy? Fallen arches from squatting.
Why are they so big? They have dinosaur DNA. Some posit that dinosaurs were warm blooded. Clearly they laid eggs. We already have marsupials. Bigfoot as an egg-laying giant marsupial is not without precedent.
Why don't we ever catch one? Their very survival depends on hiding extremely well during their long periods of squatting. Fits right in with evolution, or don't you believe in that?
Why don't we ever see a baby bigfoot? Two words: Pouches.
Why the strange way of walking? Again, pouches, sometimes with their young in them.
Why do they look like they are wearing suits? Pouches.
Why do the mournful howls? Wouldn't you if you had to spend so much time squatting on fallen arches?
Why the foul smell? No time for bathing with all the squatting. Reproduction trumps cleanliness every time.
Why no hair samples? They collect fallen hair for warming the eggs and creating soft places in the pouches.
Moccam's Razor, baby!
One point of clarification; The dinosaur DNA is not natural to them. The aliens added it so bigfeets could lift and move heavy loads.
Bikewer
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Midwest, eh? Folks here may not remember "Momo", the "Missouri Monster" which appeared in reaction to a spate of West-coast bigfoot reports.
Unfortunately, Momo was a couple of college lads taking advantage of a boring Summer and a monkey suit.....
Unfortunately, Momo was a couple of college lads taking advantage of a boring Summer and a monkey suit.....
kitakaze
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Yes, that's just your opinion. Without being able to say with confidence what Gigantopithecus looked like or being able to say whether it walked on four limbs or two, we don't know how people would interpret it.
Also saying millions of them must have existed recently is a major misconception. Probably a number in the low thousands existed at any one time in their southeast asian habitat until there extinction roughly 300,000 years ago. The fact that they lived in a wet, humid subtropical environment means we can expect very little of their remains to ever have become fossilized. Yet even so we still have a great many of their teeth and a few mandibles to examine. That is for a species that disappeared 300,000 years ago. Also we know by examining those jaws that while they may have eaten some fruit, they had dentition and anatomy adapted to eating bamboo.
Here is a Giganto jaw for you to examine:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Gigantopithecusjaw.jpg
You seem to have picked up quite a few fallacies regularly encouraged by Bigfoot enthusiast. I'm guessing that either you are now a Bigfoot enthusiast or have spent considerable time interacting with them. Are you coming to us from a Bigfoot forum, perhaps?
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kitz, no, i just have a general interest in the phenomona. nothing more.
there are problems with finding remains and these arent woos
1.tibetan blue bear- a couple 1000 6ft bears living in the open himalayas that has been scanned to death, yet no one has ever found a complete dead carcass of one. so if science cant find a 6ft beast in open territory, then the chances of finding an ape in dense brush is less likely. also, the pacific northwest soil is generally not useful for fossilization
The evolutionist Richard Dawkins, in his book "An Ancestor's Tale", estimates that 90% of all species that ever existed are not represented in the fossil record, and any one currently living mammal has probably much less than one in a million chance of becoming a fossil.
so IF bigfoot exists, and thats what im unsure of, its an incredibly rare animal that is found once in a life time. science has been looking very recent, so i would suggest to give the subject more time and sway away from some of the crazy bf advocates, and approach it with an open mind. one example of a solid researcher is esteban sarmiento
there are problems with finding remains and these arent woos
1.tibetan blue bear- a couple 1000 6ft bears living in the open himalayas that has been scanned to death, yet no one has ever found a complete dead carcass of one. so if science cant find a 6ft beast in open territory, then the chances of finding an ape in dense brush is less likely. also, the pacific northwest soil is generally not useful for fossilization
The evolutionist Richard Dawkins, in his book "An Ancestor's Tale", estimates that 90% of all species that ever existed are not represented in the fossil record, and any one currently living mammal has probably much less than one in a million chance of becoming a fossil.
so IF bigfoot exists, and thats what im unsure of, its an incredibly rare animal that is found once in a life time. science has been looking very recent, so i would suggest to give the subject more time and sway away from some of the crazy bf advocates, and approach it with an open mind. one example of a solid researcher is esteban sarmiento
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How would you or anyone know if a Tibetan found a carcass and kept on walking and then never reported it to whatever authorities are keeping track of this thing?
Same for American black bears. Bigfooters say they are rarely or never found dead. But nobody knows how many are seen dead and never get entered into any database.
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From Wikipedia:
It seems like people have found Tibetan Blue Bear remains.
And Dawkins was referring to extinct animals and not current, live animals. We are not concerned about not being able to locate fossilized remains of the BF but rather fresh, recently deceased remains...droppings...nesting sites...etc.
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ETA: And further on the Blue Bear, the reason it is endangered because it has been over-hunted for its bile, which is used in traditional Chinese "medicine". I believe we have sufficient evidence it exists.
kitakaze
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How do you know there a couple thousand Tibetan blue bears living in the open Himalayas? They would not be living way up in the mountains but rather the lower elevations. They are one of the rarest subspecies of bears in the world. The Gobi bear is thought to be a relict population. We have their remains and they have been catalogued by science. Again, here are Tibetan blue bears:
http://www.ecotibet.org/gallery/photo/album/poster/slides/2 Tibetan Bear.html
http://www.ojizoo.jp/zukan/pic/0107016.jpg
The main problem with your argument is that your appealing to a hypothetical that doesn't exist. Bigfoot is not reported consistently in a few remote areas. It is reported all over the continent in all shapes, sizes, characteristics, and abilities. No matter how rare you think the beast is, if it has a breeding population in North America and is encountered by humans, we will have a type specimen.
Richard Dawkins is an evolutionary biologist and you are misinterpreting him. It is highly unlikely that I will be fossilized but that does not mean species alive today likely will not have fossil representation. We can reasonably expect Bigfoot to be represented by a fossil specimen at some point from its alleged existence all over the globe. Certainly we can expect to have a specimen of one in North America.
See, now I'm quite sure you're a Bigfoot enthusiast because you're bring up Esteban Sarmiento. Sarmiento may appear in various Doug Hajicek productions but has gone on the record as being skeptical of Bigfoot. There is no reason to think Bigfoot is incredibly rare.
Try and give me one good reason why I should consider Bigfoot is a very rare animal.
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skeptic guy, but why no more than skin and pellets? why no bodies by the truck loads? generally, animals are not found more often than found, but it demostrates that a large animal can avoid detection. theres no impact on the ecosystem from it. a body would only do, and its amazing why theirs only 1 found? even wolverines are found way more often
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I don't have (and I question whether you do either) have any information that suggests there have been no discoveries of their remains. I would imagine that the locals come across their remains on occasion, as do people living in the Pacific Northwest come across the remains of other types of bears and large animals.
I would be open to the suggestion that the instances are fewer than in the US given the scarcity of the animal and the remoteness of their habitat, but I would still imagine they find the remains.
kitakaze
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You don't know what Gigantopithecus numbered in when living. The 10,000's is a number pulled out of a hat. China is the third largest nation on Earth. It has areas that are conducive to fossilization and areas that are not. We know by what Giganto remain available that they ate bamboo and lived in southeast Asia. The remains we have were not pulled out of the dirt on the side of a hill somewhere. They were retrieved from apothecaries which in turn payed peasants to retrieve dragon teeth from caves. Many of those teeth were likely brought to those caves by porcupines.