How 9/11 was done

[JoeyDonuts]

Mr 911 Investigator: I find your hypothosis regarding the Mossad connection to the 911 attacks compelling and rock solid. You've obviously done your homework and have a firm grasp of the octapus and the extent of the tentacles - and Mossad is a beast like no other.
Widely recognized within the intelligence services as the folks that know when countless "persons of interest" fart before they do, for anyone with any working knowledge of the particulars surrounding the attacks to overlook Mossad - is a fatal lapse of judgement.
Surely, you know of Chris Bolyn?
Best regards
MM

Sweet Jesus on a muffin.

Do your theories also depend on technology from HALO?

You do realize he hasn't offered proof of any of this, correct? Even after being shown that 767's don't have the capability to be flown by remote, he still holds to it. Even after being shown that voice morphing technology cannot do the things he's postulated, he still holds to it. His theories are almost universally tied together with a thread of anti-Semitism.

But please, if you have anything relevant to offer, go ahead and start yourself a new thread. Present the evidence for your claims. Let's see what shocking evidence you want to show the world on a skeptics' forum and not the news media. Oh yeah, I forgot. In your world they're all owned by Jews and thus fully corrupt.

I have a feeling John Hutchison will develop zero-point energy in his apartment before either one of you present anything that isn't moonbat paranoia.

 

[Bell]

It's now late afternoon 23 December, one day before Christmas eve. My last post #1372 pretty much sums up my position. I'm going to force myself to 'kick the randi habbit' until at least January 1. This exercise, blog + 327 posts costing somewhere between 1-2 man months, is taking a too heavy toll on my private and economic life. I am not quiting but I am reducing the forum effort and will post less regular. I have learned a lot here and this experience has strengthened my conviction that the OCT can not be true. Does that mean that 'my own' theory is necessarily true? By no means. I am 100% convinced of WTC1/2/7 CD. I am also convinced of Israeli foreknowledge/involvment and that 'Israel' is likely the perpetrator of 9/11, possibly with aide from rogue elements within the CIA (as Cossiga claims). But I cannot prove it, possibly never will, restricted as I am to my google gizmo. I for myself have constructed a story that is not (too much) in contradiction with the observed facts and accounts for a motive, although I am sure that the rest of the forum disagrees. But it is merely a story, other stories are possible as well.

I'll be keeping an eye out for your story at Apple movie trailers.

At least you guys are not boring, what cannot be said of truther forums who hardly care to respond.

I wish everybody here a merry Christmas (and Happy Hannukkah for the other half of the forum) and a Happy New Year for all...

Thank you, 9/11-investigator.

...and many new insights regarding 9/11 in 2009, insights I will be more than happy to provide.

Let me extend by wishing for you that you will find reason, sense and wisdom in the new year.

-Bell

 

[dtugg]

I wish everybody here a merry Christmas (and Happy Hannukkah for the other half of the forum) and a Happy New Year for all...

So apparently, our friend believes that half of this board is Jewish and that is why we are countering his fantasy. I can only speak for myself; I am not Jewish (by faith or ancestry), I just think that his fantasy is ridiculous, unfounded, libelous, and disgusting. I very seriously doubt that half this board is Jewish.

...and many new insights regarding 9/11 in 2009, insights I will be more than happy to provide.

I am positive that any new "insights" will be based on nothing whatsoever, except for making crap up.

ETA: I hope you have a horrible Xmas because I think you are a horrible person.

 

[GStan]

So apparently, our friend believes that half of this board is Jewish and that is why we are countering his fantasy. I can only speak for myself; I am not Jewish (by faith or ancestry), I just think that his fantasy is ridiculous, unfounded, libelous, and disgusting. I very seriously doubt that half this board is Jewish.

I am positive that any new "insights" will be based on nothing whatsoever, except for making crap up.

ETA: I hope you have a horrible Xmas because I think you are a horrible person.

I think NEI has certainly demonstrated an ability to be horrible, but I wish him a happy holiday none-the-less, and hope a fat guy in a red suit climbs down his chimney with some reputable books on logic and critical thinking.

 

[Darth Rotor]

It's now late afternoon 23 December, one day before Christmas eve. My last post #1372 pretty much sums up my position. I'm going to force myself to 'kick the randi habbit' until at least January 1.

Not a bad idea, tis the season for people and family of RL.

I have learned a lot here and this experience has strengthened my conviction that the OCT can not be true.

Well, there is always the possibility of learning more. Hope springs eternal.

I am 100% convinced of WTC1/2/7 CD. I am also convinced of Israeli foreknowledge/involvment and that 'Israel' is likely the perpetrator of 9/11, possibly with aide from rogue elements within the CIA (as Cossiga claims).

What makes this disappointing is how you came to be 100% convinced.

But it is merely a story, other stories are possible as well.

And more likely to boot.

At least you guys are not boring, what cannot be said of truther forums who hardly care to respond.

How nice of you. Thanks.

I wish everybody here a merry Christmas (and Happy Hannukkah for the other half of the forum) and a Happy New Year for all...

Merry Christmas to you as well.

...and many new insights regarding 9/11 in 2009, insights I will be more than happy to provide.

Not sure what new there is on the topic, but one never knows.

So apparently, our friend believes that half of this board is Jewish and that is why we are countering his fantasy. I can only speak for myself; I am not Jewish (by faith or ancestry), I just think that his fantasy is ridiculous, unfounded, libelous, and disgusting. I very seriously doubt that half this board is Jewish.

I am not Jewish. I have a largish nose. Maybe that threw him off.

I hope you have a horrible Xmas because I think you are a horrible person.

Man, that wasn't nice. Why not get into the spirit of the season and kill 'em with kindness. Plenty of time for flaming next year.

First you state something as fact when you have shown no evidence it is even possible.This is not Syria!

What does Syria have to do with this.

Second The US does not evasdropp on it's people.You have believed a lie feed to you by fools!

Huh? Wiretapping got Blago in Chicago.

The only calls listened to are from outside the US!

See above.

Will you ever get one thing right in all these pages?

Pot, kettle.

You should be ashamed of your self.

Maybe he is, and just doesn't show it here?

Why do you hate America?

Other than being European and susceptible to a set or memes, the reasons for that sometimes take a while to type.

Merry Christmas to you as well, Doobie: may no buildings fall upon thee and thine, nor any CD's happen in your 'hood.

DR

 

[twinstead]

I'm still not sure if even NEI himself belives his narrative. This appears to be a simple intellectual excercise to me.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Wow. The thread grew while I was travelling.

Anyway: 9/11-investigator. Thank you for your holiday wishes. I return the gesture, and wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Getting back to the topic: For a moment, let's ignore all the arguments about whether the eavesdropping technology can be applied, or whether the Mossad has the capability to perform such feats (for the record, it can't, and they don't, but I'm trying to get at a more fundamental point than that). Can you establish that such technology was actually used? And can you provide evidence that the Mossad was actually involved? There is much in your posts regarding capabilities and possibilities, but as others have pointed out, you have provided nothing that actually links these capabilities and abilities to 9/11 itself. As a matter of fact, many of the links are actually referring to post 9/11 capabilities, but I don't want to get mired down with that point. The point is that the information you provided mentions nothing about actual employment of the alleged capabilities and technologies on 9/11. Can you provide any links saying not just that voice morphing technology exists, but was actually employed on 9/11? And can you point to any evidence saying not that the Mossad has the ability to perform such eavesdropping and information-manipulative feats, but actually did do so for that event? Doing so would strengthen the thesis that such technology was indeed used in the manner you assert.

Thank you. And Happy Holidays to all.

 

[Sunstealer]

I agree that you just blew my story. But flexible as I am, I change the story in that the eavesdropper heard that Linda did put the will in her safe. So the guy with the glasses enters Linda's house not just with a new safe but also with a device to crack her old safe. After the cracking he puts the will in the new safe of which he knows the code, as well as the people in the war room in Urban Moving Systems. Story saved.

Oh man that's the funniest thing I've read in ages.

Why does he have to bring a new safe that he already knows the combination to, when he will know the combination to the old safe when he uses the device to crack her old safe?

Why make things more complicated? Just say he used a device to crack the safe to get the code. This just shows how poor your line of reasoning and thinking is.

 

[A W Smith]

Oh man that's the funniest thing I've read in ages.

Why does he have to bring a new safe that he already knows the combination to, when he will know the combination to the old safe when he uses the device to crack her old safe?

Why make things more complicated? Just say he used a device to crack the safe to get the code. This just shows how poor your line of reasoning and thinking is.

Then theres the problem that, oops!!! Linda Gronlund can't open her new safe! the old combination don't work anymore!

 

[Regnad Kcin]

WTC1/2/7 where obviously brought down by CD.

You can say this until your dying day, but it doesn't make it any less funny.

Were the Twins destroyed by CD there would be so much evidence it would boggle the mind. That there isn't even a shovel's worth, should tell you something. But it won't, will it, "investigator?"

I am 100% convinced of WTC1/2/7 CD...

And I am 100% convinced you've been messing around with my wife. Don't laugh. I know it to be true.

 

[Dr Adequate]

Why do you keep asking questions of which you know the answer yourself? I am in no position to prove anything.

Whereas I am.

This is why my case is so much stronger than yours.

I do not have the power to subpoena people and to question them. I only can attempt to reconstruct what happened at 9/11 like solving a jigsaw puzzle ...

Except that your method of "solving" the puzzle is to declare that all the pieces we can see don't belong in the jigsaw, which is made up entirely of pieces which you claim have been hidden from us.

where the puzzle pieces consist of snippets of text I found on the internet using my google gizmo and my admittedly rich imagination.

That's frank. But I would include all the actual evidence as pieces in the puzzle.

Why do I do that?

Good question.

No, I do that because Dr. Adequate's story is utterly discredited. WTC1/2/7 where obviously brought down by CD.

"Obviously"? Last time you claimed that, your evidence was the "huge explosions" that you later admitted did not take place.

What is it this time?

This implies that the Arabs are out. So I have to come up with an alternative explanation. Then we have the dancing Israelis for whose high-fiving behavior my distinguished opponents tellingly have no credible explanation whatsoever and who clearly had foreknowledge. And the fact that traces of explosives were found in their car does not help their case either, to put it mildly. So, they are the prime candidates for being the perpetrators of 9/11. And then the rest falls naturally into place. We have Zakheim with his remote control experience, his PNAC membership and his zionist (Clean Break) affiliations and his new job at the Pentagon were 'coincidentally' a 9/11 plane also struck, conveniently destroying evidence for the 2 trillion mess Zakheim himself helped creating; we have Silverstein with the same affiliations and his connection with Netanyahu, who is a Clean Breaker himself and is able to command the Mossad. Netanyahu in his turn is buddy-buddy with Olmert, who has a former collegue Atzmon, a convicted criminal, who now happens to control the security of several airports in the US (ICTS). Silverstein makes sure that an Israeli security firm (Kroll) is hired so Mossad agents can enter the building undisturbed. I can even tell you the name of the leader of that gang: Israeli demolition expert Peer Segalovitz, who was later arrested, just like the other Israelis from UMS by overzealous FBI-agents, who are still loyal to the American cause. But these Israelis have nothing to worry about, because in these situations higher circles intervene and order to release these Israelis. How did Ariel Sharon put it again while flaming Shimon Peres: "I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about America. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.".

More raving about Jews. But no explanation of how they could have done it, no evidence that they did it, and no way to explain away all the evidence that someone else did it.

NB: dancing is still not amongst the recognized ways of controlling planes or demolishing buildings.

Exactly. This story is so Bleedin' Obvious that it boggles the mind that one can even attempt to motivate oneself to keep clinging on to that lame Arabs-did-it-story. How did IBM put it again: you are in denial.

Not only is your story not Bleedin' Obvious, you don't have a story. Last I checked, for example, your "story" about how the Towers came down was, and I quote: "explosives/thermite/whatever". Your "story" about the phone calls has veered from a karaoke machine to a gizmo that changes the pitch of one's voice to a bunch of very fast typists. Your "story" about how the Evil Jews controlled the planes is likewise in a constant state of flux. Your "story" amounts to "I can imagine without a shred of proof that Jews coulda faked it somehow so they did". That's not a "story", it's not even an anecdote. It is however, a joke.

 

[doobiedoright]

Not a bad idea, tis the season for people and family of RL.
Well, there is always the possibility of learning more. Hope springs eternal.

What makes this disappointing is how you came to be 100% convinced.

And more likely to boot.

How nice of you. Thanks.

Merry Christmas to you as well.

Not sure what new there is on the topic, but one never knows.

I am not Jewish. I have a largish nose. Maybe that threw him off.

Man, that wasn't nice. Why not get into the spirit of the season and kill 'em with kindness. Plenty of time for flaming next year.

What does Syria have to do with this.
He keeps pointing to something moussad did in Syria as proof it happened in America.I stated that it is not proof!



Huh? Wiretapping got Blago in Chicago.

Yes it did but that was with a court order not under the terrorist servalance stuff!

See above.

Pot, kettle.

Maybe he is, and just doesn't show it here?

Other than being European and susceptible to a set or memes, the reasons for that sometimes take a while to type.

Merry Christmas to you as well, Doobie: may no buildings fall upon thee and thine, nor any CD's happen in your 'hood.


I hope your's was a merry one as well.
No buildings fell!
No C.D's in sight! You know they make a loud bang!
Not a truther dude dont know why you lumped me in with the nut job!

DR

Happy new year!

 

[stilicho]

Your "story" about the phone calls has veered from a karaoke machine to a gizmo that changes the pitch of one's voice to a bunch of very fast typists.

To be fair, NEI dropped the idea of typing after he decided it was silly:

I dropped the idea of typing, just a headset.

That was back on Page 34. Needless to say, the mind boggles at the aerobatics performed by NEI, so it's easy to lose track of the plot devices.

NEI has still not dropped the "missing Pentagon trillions" meme. That's pretty silly too and I am hoping that some common accounting knowledge might help him to see this. A modest accounting course should suffice and I am sure that The Netherlands has many excellent and inexpensive training schools available.

The "missing Pentagon trillions" is really assets (usually inventory) supported by unsatisfactory records. This is not unusual in government or even in business. There are always internal and external regulations governing asset documentation, retirement, amortisation, and so forth.

The GAO typically finds the Department of Defense to be among the worst of all government departments in maintaining controls over its inventory and expenditures. That "Jew" Dov Zakheim says this:

"We are overhauling our financial management system precisely because people like David Walker are rightly critical of it," said Dov Zakheim, the Pentagon's chief financial officer and prime architect of the Defense Department's self-styled fiscal transformation.

(Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/05/18/MN251738.DTL )

And this is the programme endorsed by the GAO:

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d03741t.pdf

As of this year, it doesn't look like the problem has been addressed:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/01/pentagon.overspending/index.html

So the press is still reporting heavily on DoD waste, the GAO is still telling taxpayers that there are problems ("increasingly suboptimal"), and yet the Mossad hasn't committed a terrorist attack to cover it up.

The Netherlands and the rest of the EU have similar problems with their military procurement and accounting standards:

"The lack of competition causes overspending in defence​

procurement."

(Source: http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/publicprocurement/docs/defence/impactassessment_en.pdf )

 

[Dr Adequate]

It's now late afternoon 23 December, one day before Christmas eve.

Let us know if Santa brings you a toy that allows you to fly jumbo jets by remote control.

Yes, I know that Santa's a nonexistent made-up elf with magic powers --- but that's still probably your best shot.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Let us know if Santa brings you a toy that allows you to fly jumbo jets by remote control.

Yes, I know that Santa's a nonexistent made-up elf with magic powers --- but that's still probably your best shot.

Here in Holland we do not have 'Santa', but in stead 'Sinterklaas', a tradition whose origin goes back to the 9th century. Your 'Santa' is based on the Dutch Sinterklaas (celebration December 5). I had asked Sinterklaas for a remote controlled Boeing and he indeed did put one in my shoe.

As you can see here it is actually very simple to remote control a Boeing. Even a child can do it.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Children can also pretend they're Harry Potter. Doesn't make magic real.

So, have we now moved on to the theory that the 9/11 planes were actually scaled up R/C craft?

:facepalm:

 

[tfk]

I'm still not sure if even NEI himself belives his narrative. This appears to be a simple intellectual excercise to me.

Twins,

"... a simple intellectual exercise ..."

I must disagree.

To me, "intellectual" means thoughtful, rigorous, scholarly & serious.

IMHO, both the product and the methodology that NEI has presented falls short in each of those respects.

tk

 

[dtugg]

As you can see here it is actually very simple to remote control a Boeing. Even a child can do it.

Are you serious? I really cannot tell. After all, you're the guy that "proved" thermite carbon cord (or whatever it was) exists, by using the wiki for a video game set hundreds of years in the future (yes, he really did this for people that may not have been following along the whole time; the video game was Halo). He is that good an investigator.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Happy new year!

I hope your's was a merry one as well.
No buildings fell!
No C.D's in sight! You know they make a loud bang!
Not a truther dude dont know why you lumped me in with the nut job!

My bad, man, not sure how that mix up occurred. I'd plead PWD, but that's a crap excuse.

DR

 

[Dr Adequate]

Here in Holland we do not have 'Santa', but in stead 'Sinterklaas', a tradition whose origin goes back to the 9th century. Your 'Santa' is based on the Dutch Sinterklaas (celebration December 5). I had asked Sinterklaas for a remote controlled Boeing and he indeed did put one in my shoe.

As you can see here it is actually very simple to remote control a Boeing. Even a child can do it.

So you're not even trying any more?

Hey, welcome to reality. I'm afraid you can't take your baggage of delusions through customs.