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Pilots For 9/11 Truth Present Their Math

Your link doesn't work. I am sure that it contains the long awaited official CIT/PffffffT flightpath and the math for it. Please fix it because I eagerly await my pwning.
 
I predict that they either screw up the math or that they ignore most of the CIT witnesses.
 
WildCat said:
Oh noes! It's all over in 2 days!
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Maybe PfT choose that date so JREF can't burn it down... well, not immediately that is:

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dtugg said:
I predict that they either screw up the math or that they ignore most of the CIT witnesses.
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Well the trailer certainly does not give any clues as to what the math will be.

I do note that they state "the math is coming" which would mean actual math and not a plot on graph paper with radi to a circle, the placement of which just appears with no explanation as to how it was determined that they were, in fact perpendicular to the tangent of the trajectory.

I also know that I and others have repeatedly stated that any range of trajectories that PfT does the math for must also be consistent with all witness statements. If their path(s) make it impossible for Morin and Paik(for instance), to have seen the aircraft in any way that would corresspond to his statements then their trajectory is out.

A Christmas Day release, same day that JREF will be down for maintenance. Coincidence? One wonders,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:D
 
Grizzly Bear said:
I just got to know why a trailer was needed for that... WHY!!>!>!>!?!!?. How much time did they spend on that trailer that they could have devoted to their math?
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And IF a trailer was needed, then why only 2 days before release?

Trailers are usually released a long time before the promoted movie hits the big screen (or YouTube in this case). I think trailers are used as a way to keep the intended audience interested.

Releasing a trailer 2 days before release, indicates, to me, a lack of professionalism on the moviemaker's behalve.
 
The 'trailer' is little more than text anyway. If the new release is all text, as it really should be for a purely technical report, then one wonders why produce a video at all.
I guess 911files said it all above.

The 'trailer' also states that it is 'officially docuemented' which I take to include the view that the FDR data illustrates a path grossly different than the path shown by the downed lamp posts. If so then one wonders why a purely technical paper has never been drawn up and submitted to all and sundry organizations with the recognized expertise to make comment on it and who would have an interest in accurate FDR recording.
Given that the 'official' records of the RADES data, the FDR data and others all do not corresspond with a flight path to the north of the Citgo station just how official the docuementation is that they are using.
 
jaydeehess said:
I also know that I and others have repeatedly stated that any range of trajectories that PfT does the math for must also be consistent with all witness statements. If their path(s) make it impossible for Morin and Paik(for instance), to have seen the aircraft in any way that would corresspond to his statements then their trajectory is out.
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Obviously, either PfffffT will come up with a flightpath that'll make the propeller-heads here snort soda out their noses, or one or more of Ranquis' prized NoC witnesses is going to get thrown under the bus. I'm guessing the latter.
 
Oh my I am sorry but is the CIT/PFTT now doing parody?
Aerodynamically Possible - Witness Compatible
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My FAVORITE though is:
THE MATH IS COMING CHRISTMAS DAY 2008
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Comedy GOLD!
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BTW its not about justice for DEAD MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN nooooo NOT WITH THE dipsticks from CIT/PFTT.
According to Ranke
No turkey and ham for the pseudo-skeptics this Christmas! They're being served a different holiday meal this year.
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the math is coming for christmas because thats when they get their calculators.

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Check out what Craig says:--

Craig Ranke CIT said:
But as I have said in the past, this argument is irrelevant to the evidence so I hope people understand the context of this piece is completely centered around answering the continuous badgering demands of a bunch of pseudo-skeptics for "math".

The reality is, math is not required to validate eyewitness accounts and eyewitnesses are not required to be mathematically accurate.

The notion is silly. <snip>

So while I find the argument completely unnecessary I am deeply thankful to Pilots for 9/11 Truth for spending so much time around the holidays putting something together to fully address this nonsensical, false, irrelevant, and foolish attempt by a band of intellectually dishonest war crime apologists to discredit all of the witnesses who were there and unanimously agree about this extremely simple right or left claim.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/gifs/citgogif.gif
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Dearest Craig,

You silly goof! The math is not to validate eyewitness accounts, the math is to demonstrate the CIT/Pfffft flyover "theory". The two are not the same, although you apparently do not realize this. None of the witnesses you list at http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/gifs/citgogif.gif claim that the plane flew over the Pentagon, and most describe the plane crashing into the Pentagon. Those requesting math here specifically are interested in the changes of altitude necessary for the plane to get over the Pentagon while on a banking maneuver...

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SP! Welcome back. Now you are aware that there are several things wrong with e^n's path, don't you? Here is the a big one: it does not take into account vertical moves. You know, the descent and the ascent that are CRITICAL to CIT's fantasy.

SP, doesn't it bother you that CIT and PFFT refuse to do the calculations that show an airliner could fly CIT's NOC path?
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WildCat said:
And I'll note that e^n's math didn't account for the changes in altitude claimed by CIT. And you do realize that even with this simpolified flight path (which is not the CIT flight path) the plane would be banking damn near sideways, which no one reported.
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Be sure to thank your friend Cap'n Bob for trying to make our Christmas merry. :D
 
Giggle!

God bless them!

Hey Cap'n Bob, make sure you calculate the bank, the descent AND the pull up.

And for Christ sake, try not to throw all the CIT witnesses under the bus.

Hee hee hee! Dance little doggies, dance!

/a "video" cripes what a bunch of dorks.
 
THE MATH IS COMING CHRISTMAS DAY 2008
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Now look what you've done, JREF. This is supposed to be the one day of the year in which people forget about all their worries and get together with their families and just enjoy themselves, and you've got these poor guys doing math. Shame on you.

You've all ruined CIT's Christmas. I hope you're happy.

:D
 
Balsamo’s video is under the category of education? Big fraud! The nutcase north flight path math from Balsamo, to be posted in 2 days; Balsamo thinks he is the Gary Cooper of truth as johndoeLXC (extra large crazy). Pure anti-intellectual stuff from p4t, how can it get better than 11.2 G failed physics, 34 G hockey stick flight path math, terrorist loyalist Balsamo, ace pilot and botched math wizard at p4t is about to present the mother of all goalpost moves and hopefully his best math yet.

Seems like many people have the lowdown on bad math Balsamo... The first comment...

No math Balsamo? You guys are a complete joke.

Now, delete this post like a good little fascist.
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That was SS-hitMan (irony lost on me and Balsamo) who knows Balsamo can’t do math (common knowledge after 11.2 and 34 Gs of pure stupid hit the internet.)

johndoeXLC (3 hours ago) No, we'll leave your post to demonstrate you have comprehension problems. Please note the video clearly says the math is coming in two days. But then again, i dont expect an "SS" (hitler?) fascist to understand such plain words. Merry Xmas!
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Christmas! typing challenged dolt. Can't even get the birthday right for Baby Jesus.

11.2 G Balsamo, who can’t figure out the feet in a nautical mile, talks of comprehension, and understanding. The expert FDR pilot of pilots who can’t hit a building in the safety of a simulator is about to break math again! Will it be 34 Gs of greatness, or 11.2 Gs of failed physics?


How will they get a flight path at 70 degree magnetic heading and at 534 mph? Where will they move the goalposts this time?

The funniest part of NoC; CIT's video with the witnesses pointing to the “official flight path”. These are the dumbest investigators in the world who post video showing their witnesses pointing to the “official flight path”.


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/gifs/ancgif2.gif

CIT and p4t a marriage made deep in the pit of total ignorance. Pure stupid lives at p4tf and in Balsamo videos.

FDR and CIT witness have pre-debunked p4t failed NoC math presentation of woo.
The NoC flight path of pure garbage math, coming Christmas day. While the rest of the country prepares for tons of turkey, p4t prepare math even a turkey could do better.

Aerodynamically Possible - Witness Compatible- as in, 11.2 G Stupid - 34 G Incomprehensible Junk
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