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Non-local and Local are clearly appear in post #1 as fundamentals that without them this post (and generally, this thread) cannot be understood.
What does this word salad mean?
This thread is a very good example of the inability of an educational method that is based on one and only one observation type, to get things that are not based on this particular observation.
Oh if you want, please stay in your fantasy world. But stop claiming that the rest of the world is too stupid to get your "ideas".
If even jsfisher with his near inexhaustible patience has nothing to contribute to the thread, who has? You certainly haven't, as you haven't come closer to explaining your "ideas" in 1800+ posts.

Conclusion: it's time the thread got closed.
 
Conclusion: It is about time to open more than a single eye.

Strange remark when you first claim I only have one eye in the first place.

Ostensibly you don't want to discuss "local" or "non-local" anymore since your feeble attempts to define them have been thoroughly debunked.

So my conclusion that the thread should be closed still stands.
 
Defining just one should be sufficient. I have noticed, though, that Doron seems unable to tell you what something is, but instead, how it behaves. May be that explains his myopia.

I think its what's to be expected for the actual content he's after.

Once upon a time, I reminded you of the dangers of facilitated communication. I'm seeing more of you in the above text than I am of Doron.

I see a point of entry where I have some agreement with him I could use for future discussion with him along Buddhist lines. I do think I have his basic idea to work from.

But he could suddenly sweep it all off the table as before.

I think you missed my irony in my jigsaw puzzle story.
 
I see a point of entry where I have some agreement with him I could use for future discussion with him along Buddhist lines. I do think I have his basic idea to work from.


That's a fair point. And it doesn't really matter whether his words sparked the idea in you or it was his idea all along.
 
doronshadmi:
If you're not talking to him, why quote him? Or are you doing your typical "... but I'm not talking about that here" routine?


jsfisher:
Religion and Philosophy, actually. Virtually none of this thread has been on philosophy, after all.
Well, we haven't spoken much on math either.:D

I think that this is the best forum since his idea is more of a "how you look at something" rather that what that something is. I'm semi-interested in his ideas, but it's too bad he won't met us on common ground. The way that he talks to us, it reminds me like he is trying to convert me over to his religion (not talking about Judaism (which I assume he is since he's in Israel)). The whole "yur 2 stupid 2 getz what i'm preechin'", "yur thougts ain't the write onez", and the "you have 2b in it 2get it" just about every time we point out something, makes me want to bang my head. But then I realize, he won't change, because "i'm rite, yur rong", and I go on my merry way.
 
But he could suddenly sweep it all off the table as before.
Nothing was sweeped off the table simply because the table itself is a part of the game.

In that case the table is Relation where Relation is non-local.



As for the independency of a point and a line-segment, a line-segment or a point are types of elements, where a point is local w.r.t other element and a line-segment is local or non-local w.r.t other elements.

When we speak about total isolation (which is not researchable, exactly because no connection can be found) or about total connectivity (which is not researchable, exactly because there are no elements that can be connected), we distinguish between at least to non-researchable states, where total isolation is too weak in order to be researched, and total connectivity is too strong in order to be researched.

Actually total connectivity is the strong limit of the researchable and total isolation is the weak limit of the researchable, where these extremes are not defined by each other, but they are independent manifestations of Singularity, which is non manifested by nature.

Since our cognition is aware of the non manifested it gets itself as a factor that has no influence on the manifested, or in other words, the manifested is considered as objective and independent of any observation.

But on the other hand, the manifested is after all the manifestation of the non-manifest, where the manifested depends on the non-manifested, but not vice versa.

From this hierarchy of dependency, our cognition is aware of its ability to be used as the interactor between the non manifested and the manifested.

In this case what is considered as objective, can be understood differently from more than a one point of view.

This is one of the aims of my work, to show the non-trivial property of observation as a significant factor of the mathematical science.
 
Then what was your point here?

This is something that you have to ask yourself, because you are the one who is an expert of how to ignore Observation as a significant factor of the mathematical science.
 
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I haven't read enough of this thread to know if he has shown otherwise, but Doron doesn't seem to know any math. That last statement, that math is affected by observation (lol) indicates that he is simply making things up.
 
This is something that you have to ask yourself, because you are the one who is an expert of how to ignore Observation as a significant factor of the mathematical science.
How can you know? You've only shown a very deep ignorance of mathematics.

I haven't read enough of this thread to know if he has shown otherwise, but Doron doesn't seem to know any math. That last statement, that math is affected by observation (lol) indicates that he is simply making things up.

He is indeed. You haven't missed a thing in that respect.
 
That's only a bunch of links to your PDFs. I'd qualify the content of that post as link spamming. Why do you link to those PDFs rather than explain your views here in a post?

Hint: the PDFs are as incoherent as your posts here.
ddt,

Hint: Your replies are nothing but spam.

You are not qualified to say any meaningful thing about the PDF's content, as clearly shown time after time along this thread ( http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4266596&postcount=1043 ).
 
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ddt,

Hint: Your replies are nothing but spam.

You are not qualified to say any meaningful thing about the PDF's content, as clearly shown time after time along this thread.

You obviously haven't read my post #964, where I thoroughly analyzed page 2 of your "Universal Reasoning" nonsense. You haven't reacted to that. I dare to say I've read more of your nonsense papers than you've ever read mathematical textbooks at appropriate level.

I get the sound impression you don't want to discuss your "ideas" anymore, as you're only engaged in yes/no games for the last couple of days, as opposed to do an honest effort to meaningfully convey your "ideas".
 
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