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NIST Releases FINAL WTC 7 Report - Nov. 20

Homeland Insurgency said:
Oh!!! They were "pulled" from rescuing people?

LOL!!!

Who wasn't rescued from WTC-7 because the firefighters had to be pulled?

I can't wait for this. Are you guys the third-string debunkers? I'm feeling kinda cheated here.

BAHAHAHAHAH!!!
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The collapse area (answering a question only a moron would ask)

Are you the best "truther" left? You need to kick it up a notch, your boring me.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
So who got left behind when the firefighters were "pulled" from the evacuation? I guess the "pull" was just in the nick of time huh?
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Perhaps nobody. That doesn't mean that they weren't looking for people. They were. And since it was predicted that WTC7 would collapse, many people's lives would be endangered by doing so. Nigro had a difficult decision to make, and I think he made the right one.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Who died in WTC-7? Who was not evacuated, saved, or given first-aid because the firefighters had to be "pulled"?
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Who says anybody died because rescue operations had to be pulled? It is possible that nobody did. But it is a fact that they were looking for survivors and the collapse of WTC7 would have killed people that were close to it.
 
Ragnarok said:
But, would they have made the same prediction, had the events 7 hours earlier not transpired? And what would they have based their prediction on?
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Of course not. If WTC1 hadn't collapsed, it wouldn't have severely damaged WTC7 and there would no reason to believe it was in danger of collapsing.

Homeland Insurgency said:
Any steel structure skyscraper collapsing because of fire is suspicious. Three in one day is a miracle. If you believe in miracles.
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Don't forget the structural damage.

Homeland Insurgency said:
Ok I'm game. What were the firefighters "pulled" from doing? eh? der duhhhhhh buuuuuunka?????
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Search and rescue in the debris pile of WTCs 1 & 2, in the vicinity of WTC7. A lot of their fellow firefighters were in the shadow of the towers when they collapsed.

dtugg said:
Are you really this stupid or are you just trolling?
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Trolling. Don't let it get to you.
 
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If only there were video footage of the inside of wtc 7 on 9/11 that would show if the building was set for controlled demolition. Oh that's right there is footage and yet no stripped columns, no miles of wiring, no "cutter charges." CASE CLOSED!

 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Who died in WTC-7? Who was not evacuated, saved, or given first-aid because the firefighters had to be "pulled"?
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You seem to have misread my post.


Why do you keep highlighting "fighters?" I can only assume it is because you wish to attempt to try to insult firefighters by trying to diminish their roles in responding to medical emergencies, not just fires. Have ever had the occasion to call 911 (if in NA) for an ambulance? Almost inevitably, a firetruck will show up first.
 
Ragnarok said:
Erm...the Fire Department had already seen two buildings collapse that day, so it's no surprise that they might have predicted it happening a third time. But, would they have made the same prediction, had the events 7 hours earlier not transpired? And what would they have based their prediction on?
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If you claim the FDNY thought WTC 7 might collapse simply because of WTC 1 and 2, how you do explain them trying to fight WTC 7 for two hours after those structures collapsed?

Their decision to give up on WTC 7 was based, among other things, on visible, quantified signs of structural distress. And see Chief Nigro's comments, above.

They did not, at 8 AM on Sept. 11th, think that no steel frame structure could possibly collapse in a fire. And, likewise, they did not think WTC 7 might collapse only on the basis of WTC 1 and 2, or on "being told" by some mysterious little bird, or what have you. They were professionals, and they understood the risks of fires in tall structures. Risks that they prepared for, risks that they responded to appropriately, and risks that have absolutely nothing to do with explosvies or thermite or space beams. And as a result, nobody was killed in WTC 7.

Very, very, very simple.
 
R.Mackey said:
If you claim the FDNY thought WTC 7 might collapse simply because of WTC 1 and 2, how you do explain them trying to fight WTC 7 for two hours after those structures collapsed?


Very, very, very simple.
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Apparently it's not that simple. Do you disagree with Shyam Sunder that there was no firefighting operation for WTC 7?
 
Semantics.

FDNY did try to fight it. They just couldn't do much.

False Precision fallacy. Dr. Sunder is correct, but only at a coarse level. Rather than mine his comments, why not respond to the point?
 
Either way, there was an operation near the building. Good thing FDNY made the decision to "pull it" away.

 
R.Mackey said:
Semantics.

FDNY did try to fight it. They just couldn't do much.

False Precision fallacy. Dr. Sunder is correct, but only at a coarse level. Rather than mine his comments, why not respond to the point?
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Talk about semantics. Either there was a firefighting operation (two hours by your account) or there was not.

Which is it?
 
RedIbis said:
Talk about semantics. Either there was a firefighting operation (two hours by your account) or there was not.

Which is it?
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There was. This is the "activity" that Chief Nigro was referring to in his quote, reprinted above.

However, it would be correct to state that the operation was primarily one of assessment and recovery/rescue of personnel, and that at no point were they positioned to get the upper hand on the fire itself.

That's your semantics. Now, care to address the point, which is that firefighters did not immediately give up on WTC 7, but only cleared a collapse zone after it began to degrade? Or are you just going to snipe, as usual?
 
I guess these guys are lucky they can come here and make these accusation instead of having to say these things in front of the firefighters would probably assault these kids physically.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Who died in WTC-7? Who was not evacuated, saved, or given first-aid because the firefighters had to be "pulled"?
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they were pulled from an area within the collapse perimeter. where they were looking for survivors and remains from the collapse of the towers . not building seven. seven had already been evacuated. are you really that stupid?
 
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