Police look into psychic "tips" about Caylee Anthony

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Psychic Tips Pour In In Caylee Case

Tips Coming From Canada, Mexico, Poland
wesh.com
POSTED: 4:48 pm EDT October 30, 2008

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Orange Co. deputies have received close to 5,000 tips in the case since it first broke in July. Deputies are taking these tips seriously -- most have already been prioritized and investigated.

The majority come from psychics who claim to have visions about what happened to Caylee. However most are just too vague to help.

"She felt her child was threatened, and didn't feel like she could protect her child," said an anonymous psychic who believes that Caylee is still alive. Her visions show that Caylee is in Canada.
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The tips come from CrimeLine, e-mails, and even handwritten letters. Some are from as far away as Canada, Mexico, even Poland.

The more morbid visions show Caylee buried in the woods, in water, or burned in a farm field.

"None of them ever panned out," said Padilla.

Investigators say they have followed all credible leads - even from psychics. In the end they believe it will not be a vision that solves this case.

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Source: http://www.wesh.com/news/17850702/detail.html
Video: http://www.wesh.com/video/17850995/index.html


That's disappointing to see police examine psychic "leads," but at least they admit the "tips" are vague and of no help. However, if or when the case is solved some psychic(s) are going to claim credit for it since the police "looked into the tip".
 
In the Madeliene McCann case it said that the cops were reading all the tips from 'psychics' in case one turned out to be a hint from someone who actually knew some real information, but were sending it to them in the form of a psychic prediction because they didn't want to get involved.
Maybe that is the case here too?
 
Jonquill said:
In the Madeliene McCann case it said that the cops were reading all the tips from 'psychics' in case one turned out to be a hint from someone who actually knew some real information, but were sending it to them in the form of a psychic prediction because they didn't want to get involved.
Maybe that is the case here too?
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But the police said, "None of them ever panned out."
 
Questioninggeller said:
That's disappointing to see police examine psychic "leads," but at least they admit the "tips" are vague and of no help. However, if or when the case is solved some psychic(s) are going to claim credit for it since the police "looked into the tip".
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Having worked in law enforcement, I can tell you that police follow up ALL leads and tips in a case, psychic, crackpot, or otherwise. It's definitely not an indicator that police officers believe in psychic ability...and the greater majority of those I worked with absolutely do not.
 
Seems like after 5,000 tips from psychics one of them should get lucky.
 
my_wan said:
Seems like after 5,000 tips from psychics one of them should get lucky.
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You'd think so, but, of course, most psychic tips are so unspecific as to be laughable. You know, they "see" trees, or water, or a power plant in the distance, or a culvert, etc., but it's all vague. Cops try to follow up these tips, but the very vagueness makes it almost impossible to decipher the location the psychic is "seeing".

And here's the sad thing - cops will waste manpower and time following these leads, because that's what they are required to do and, because, like everyone else, they always have the hope that that one lead will help them find a child like Caylee.

The majority of the time, the psychic isn't doing it to help find the child, but for their own selfish reasons - either they get a kick over "part of the investigation" or they want to broadcast that they are helping the police, or both.

It's one of the more sickening traits of psychics.
 
Jonquill said:
In the Madeliene McCann case it said that the cops were reading all the tips from 'psychics' in case one turned out to be a hint from someone who actually knew some real information, but were sending it to them in the form of a psychic prediction because they didn't want to get involved.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/31/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

Police in Portugal are poring over messages from self-professed psychics and clairvoyants in an attempt to track down Madeleine McCann, who went missing exactly four weeks ago.
Two 8cm-thick files of emails and other communications are being examined in case one of them contains a message from the four-year-old's kidnapper, the detective leading the hunt, Olegario Sousa, said today.

Each clairvoyant's claim was being taken seriously in case they were from the person or people who snatched Madeleine from her parent's holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz on May 3, Chief Inspector Sousa said.

"That is one of the reasons that we cannot discard anything," he said. "We must check them all in case it might be from the kidnapper.
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Generally speaking when the police investigate these matters, they're considered a tertiary source of information - the sort of thing to which one replies "We'll look into it" and then doesn't. The police have a very finite set of free resources (officers who can be pulled away from other tasks to investigate other claims) that can be used, many of these only available for a limited period of time (no officer will willingly stick around after his shift is over to begin searching every inch of ground near a power plant, for example).

The utility of psychics as information resources is therefore completely useless, but psychics do have some use - even if it's a very poor one. Psychics do act as a gauge by which a detective can measure the spread of information released so as to get better public reactions to worthwhile information (analyze how fast psychics pick up on bad things, and then use that to grab the public's attention), but in the end there usually isn't enough time to make this worthwhile. From the police officers I've spoken to on the subject, ultimately the value of a psychic to an investigation is that their claims are an excellent way to boost the recycling statistics of the department.

~ Matt
 
MattC said:
Generally speaking when the police investigate these matters, they're considered a tertiary source of information - the sort of thing to which one replies "We'll look into it" and then doesn't. The police have a very finite set of free resources (officers who can be pulled away from other tasks to investigate other claims) that can be used, many of these only available for a limited period of time (no officer will willingly stick around after his shift is over to begin searching every inch of ground near a power plant, for example).

The utility of psychics as information resources is therefore completely useless, but psychics do have some use - even if it's a very poor one. Psychics do act as a gauge by which a detective can measure the spread of information released so as to get better public reactions to worthwhile information (analyze how fast psychics pick up on bad things, and then use that to grab the public's attention), but in the end there usually isn't enough time to make this worthwhile. From the police officers I've spoken to on the subject, ultimately the value of a psychic to an investigation is that their claims are an excellent way to boost the recycling statistics of the department.

~ Matt
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It's also relevant that regarding finite resources some psychics charge for their nonsense. They charge families and police, stemming from the publicity they get from being linked to past police work:

A California psychic hired by the Thibodaux Police Department now says the priest was killed by a "young mulatto" homosexual who was enraged by Hunter's rejection of his advances.

"Someone was in love with the minister and he (the minister) wasn't predisposed to be in love with a man," Sylvia Browne of Campbell, Calif., said in a telephone interview last week. "He (the minister) said, 'I was just helping you. I wasn't in love with you,' and in a rage, he killed him.
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The Thibodaux Police Department paid $ 400 for a half-hour consultation with Browne because, her secretary Larry Beck, said, "They wanted it right away."
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desertgal said:
You'd think so, but, of course, most psychic tips are so unspecific as to be laughable. You know, they "see" trees, or water, or a power plant in the distance, or a culvert, etc., but it's all vague. Cops try to follow up these tips, but the very vagueness makes it almost impossible to decipher the location the psychic is "seeing".

And here's the sad thing - cops will waste manpower and time following these leads, because that's what they are required to do and, because, like everyone else, they always have the hope that that one lead will help them find a child like Caylee.

The majority of the time, the psychic isn't doing it to help find the child, but for their own selfish reasons - either they get a kick over "part of the investigation" or they want to broadcast that they are helping the police, or both.

It's one of the more sickening traits of psychics.
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Yes, and no matter how little help they are they can always use that vagueness after the fact to claim a hit. The fact that the tip itself was zero help to the police is immaterial to their claims once Caylee is found.
 
Damn...May have found her
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/11/childs-body-found-near-missing-fla-girls-home/

interesting--and some will claim a hit...
What a load of crap...
Mandy Albritton, a member of EquuSearch — one of the groups that searched for the missing toddler — told the Orlando Sentinel that their volunteers did not check the location in early September because it was submerged in water. When they returned in November, the site had been fenced off.
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rwguinn said:
Mandy Albritton, a member of EquuSearch — one of the groups that searched for the missing toddler — told the Orlando Sentinel that their volunteers did not check the location in early September because it was submerged in water. When they returned in November, the site had been fenced off.
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So? What difference does a fence make when you are searching for a missing child? Climb the fence and look on the other side.
 
The mother's defense lawyer didn't seem interested in psychics:

Casey Anthony's Attorney Seeks Tapes

Last Edited: Wednesday, 10 Dec 2008, 5:55 PM EST
By MARK WANGRIN
Associated Press Writer

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Defense lawyer Jose Baez wants the Florida Mall in Orlando to turn over all of its surveillance tapes from 2 p.m to 5 p.m. on Nov. 16. In a motion filed Monday, he asked a court to subpoena them. No decision has been made yet.
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"I'm not interested in psychic sightings, law enforcement suggestions," Baez said. "I'm interested about tips relating to the sighting of Caylee Marie Anthony and nothing more."
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We'll see if any psychic can admit wasting police time/being wrong:

Psychic-Led Team 'Blind Driving' Central Fla. To Find Missing Girl
local6.com
POSTED: 6:00 am EDT August 11, 2008
UPDATED: 7:04 am EDT August 11, 2008


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A psychic detective and her team are "blind driving" around Central Florida searching for missing Caylee Anthony.

"We will not even look at street names," psychic detective Gale St. John said. "We drive and go completely on feeling instinct, chasing down what we call a person signature."

St. John and her team arrived in Central Florida and immediately began using specially trained cadaver dogs to check areas on foot over the weekend near Lee Vista Road.
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The team will be driving around the region on Monday. Another psychic will be helping in the search as well, Local 6 reported.
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another:
Local Psychic Helping FBI Look For Caylee Anthony

Last Edited: Sunday, 31 Aug 2008, 2:12 PM EDT
Created: Sunday, 31 Aug 2008, 8:56 AM EDT
FOX 2's Deena Centofanti

A local psychic and radio personality says she may have the answer to what happened to Caylee Anthony, the Florida toddler who's been missing for weeks. Joining us is Kimmie Rose Zapf, from CBS's Psychic Radio here in Southfield.
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Kimmie Rose Zapf claimed Caylee told her:

It was so hot, I was so hot where I was, when I was in a car, but I went to sleep, but I’m safe. Mommy, it’s ok to talk to them.
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This was all an accident. Nobody meant for this to happen.
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and more (including a Sylvia Browne mention):

TITLE: Psychic tips in Caylee case include pile of rocks, zoo, satanic ritual
AUTHOR: Sarah Lundy
SOURCE: Sentinel Staff Writer
DATE: October 29, 2008

Investigators have received thousands of tips from around the world -- many from psychics -- since Caylee Marie Anthony was reported missing in mid-July. Read some of the tips here.

Those tips, which were released Tuesday, include a scribbled map from a woman who said the little girl could be found near a tall tree and pile of rocks between Orlando International Airport and Disney World.

One caller had a vision that the KKK used the missing girl in a satanic ritual in Mississippi. Another tipster had a dream about Caylee in a zoo with lots of animals, including a leopard. And someone called Central Florida Crimeline with psychic Sylvia Brown's fees (phone reading: $850) in hopes she could help.

Earlier this month, Orange Circuit Court Stan Strickland ordered the state to turn over all the tips law enforcement has received in the search for Caylee after Anthony's attorney Jose Baez requested them.
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While most of the tips released Tuesday are from psychics, dreamers and others with visions of Caylee's whereabouts, prosecutors plan to release more tips after law-enforcement officials forward the information to them, according to the State Attorney's Office.

"The psychic tips are not what the law firm is going to concentrate on," said Todd Black, a spokesman for Baez.

Other tips released Tuesday include one from a caller with a Ouija board and pendulum who believed Caylee could be found in a garbage dump. A different caller alerted authorities Sept.9 that Caylee would be found on a golf course six days later.
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It's not surprising the psychics were way off. After all police have known for months:

Investigators have said that cadaver dogs picked up the scent of death in Anthony's car, as well as in her parents' backyard. They also said air quality tests conducted by the FBI found evidence consistent with human decomposition and chloroform in the car's trunk. A neighbor told police Anthony had asked to borrow a shovel.
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Gord_in_Toronto appears to be psychic

Gord_in_Toronto said:
Too easy. Here's mine. "She's dead and her body will be found near water.":scared:
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I want to make it clear that I find it sad, unfortunate, and disgusting that Caylee Anthony was most likely murdered by a mother who didn't care about her.

But to poke fun at "psychics" who waste valuable time, resources and prey upon the emotionally vulnerable:

Gord_in_Toronto made two predictions in a post in this thread which turned out to be true (1. Caylee was dead, 2. would be found near water.)
and therefore, statistically speaking,
Gord_in_Toronto has a 100% accuracy in prediction rating.
 
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Ernie M said:
I want to make it clear that I find it sad, unfortunate, and disgusting that Caylee Anthony was most likely murdered by a mother who didn't care about her.

But to poke fun at "psychics" who waste valuable time, resources and prey upon the emotionally vulnerable:

Gord_in_Toronto made two predictions in a post in this thread which turned out to be true (1. Caylee was dead, 2. would be found near water.)
and therefore, statistically speaking,
Gord_in_Toronto has a 100% accuracy in prediction rating.
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I actually make this prediction about every single missing person. I don't claim 100% accuracy overall but it is probably at least 78%*.
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* This statistic, like 78% of all statistics, is made up.

And, may I also add, that I too am not making fun of the death of a child but am making fun of those useless and/or deluded parasites that call themselves psychics. In other threads I have also made fun of the ghoul Nancy Grace who has made her living of this case for the past six months and, as best I can determine, added nothing to the solution what-so-ever.:mad:
 
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