Gimlin's Yakima Bigfoot Party

[kitakaze]

I will concede that anything about when a post office closed is absolutely immaterial to my research, so if that's the kind of evidence he has, I suppose some other forum or venue would be more appropriate for any presentation he might want to make.

You could always try something crazy and have fx people look at your work. Then an invitation to Dfoot would be quite reasonable.

 

[Bill Munns]

Kitakaze:

"You could always try something crazy and have fx people look at your work."

Many FX people attend SIGGRAPH, so it's not so crazy. They can see it there, if I get in.

Bill

Added:

Just wanted to add that Rick Baker is one of the acknowledged masters of the graphic software, Z Brush. The late Stan Winston was one of the founders of Digital Domain, and then set up Stan Winston Digital as a division of his FX shop. Phil Tippet was a great stop motion animator, and went digital with his CGI shop. So, that's actually not such a crazy idea afterall. Many of the FX people use SIGGRAPH to stay current on the CGI cutting edge. So let's hope I get in, and I can present to them at that time (and obviously not Stan himself, may he rest in peace, but maybe some of his team).

thanks for the thought.

 

[kitakaze]

Kitakaze:

"You could always try something crazy and have fx people look at your work."

Many FX people attend SIGGRAPH, so it's not so crazy. They can see it there, if I get in.

Bill

Good luck getting in. There will be many make-up/creature physical fx people there?

 

[Bill Munns]

Kitakaze:

"There will be many make-up/creature physical fx people there? "

i don't have any stats on exactly who or how many, but there is a good crossover between creature FX people and digital artists, so there should be some creature Fx people there. A lot of films now, they have both a digital and actual creature of the same character, so the physical people really need to be on track with the digital people to coordinate.

We'll see.

Bill

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

Bill, I have a few questions I would request of you to ask Mr. Gimlin please.

1) why did he never mention his name was on the original copyright of the PGF?

2) How much money has he made off of it ( including the stills to Dahinden)

3) Did P Patterson inherit RP's copyright?

4) Where is the original?

Thanks

 

[Crowlogic]

Bill, I have a few questions I would request of you to ask Mr. Gimlin please.

1) why did he never mention his name was on the original copyright of the PGF?

2) How much money has he made off of it ( including the stills to Dahinden)

3) Did P Patterson inherit RP's copyright?

4) Where is the original?

Thanks

Dahinden was basically dirt poor most of the time. I doubt he was able to pay Gimlin a heap of money. Yet in immedate post PGF Gimlin traveled with Patterson then stopped. He may have violated an agreement with Patterson to help promote the film and was then cut out of the loop and only got back in so to speak by sueing.

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

Dahinden was basically dirt poor most of the time. I doubt he was able to pay Gimlin a heap of money. Yet in immedate post PGF Gimlin traveled with Patterson then stopped. He may have violated an agreement with Patterson to help promote the film and was then cut out of the loop and only got back in so to speak by sueing.

All probably true. All this does really is open up a whole new line of questions because the LOC just records owners that are registered ( and this is the highest registry). There could be dozens ( or hundreds) of sub agreements.

 

[Bill Munns]

LT:

"Bill, I have a few questions I would request of you to ask Mr. Gimlin please.

1) why did he never mention his name was on the original copyright of the PGF?

2) How much money has he made off of it ( including the stills to Dahinden)

3) Did P Patterson inherit RP's copyright?

4) Where is the original?

Thanks "

Do keep in mind I've never met him, never talked on the phone or corresponded with him, and have no idea what's gonna happen at this event.

I do realize you, and others in this forum are eager to ask him questions, but I'm not the designated messenger. And I'm sure you know, as a very experienced investigator and interrogator, that just telling someone else to ask your questions, the appointed person would not necessarily know how to follow up depending on the direct response, so I could ask your question, Bob could give me a simple answer, and i wouldn't know how to appraise his answer as complete or correct.

Why don't you and the others here who have questions put together a collective list and send it directly to the event organizers? That seems the appropriate channel.

Bill

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

LT:

"Bill, I have a few questions I would request of you to ask Mr. Gimlin please.

1) why did he never mention his name was on the original copyright of the PGF?

2) How much money has he made off of it ( including the stills to Dahinden)

3) Did P Patterson inherit RP's copyright?

4) Where is the original?

Thanks "

Do keep in mind I've never met him, never talked on the phone or corresponded with him, and have no idea what's gonna happen at this event.

I do realize you, and others in this forum are eager to ask him questions, but I'm not the designated messenger. And I'm sure you know, as a very experienced investigator and interrogator, that just telling someone else to ask your questions, the appointed person would not necessarily know how to follow up depending on the direct response, so I could ask your question, Bob could give me a simple answer, and i wouldn't know how to appraise his answer as complete or correct.

Why don't you and the others here who have questions put together a collective list and send it directly to the event organizers? That seems the appropriate channel.Bill

Cant argue with that and I think I'm going to do just that or if BG goes on another LTB.

A lot of things need some clarification

 

[William Parcher]

Bob Gimlin is gathering a group of friends for a get-together next May 16th in Yakima, Washington...

Do keep in mind I've never met him, never talked on the phone or corresponded with him, and have no idea what's gonna happen at this event.

Guess he counts you as a friend anyway.

 

[clayflingythingy]

If someone on this board can make it to the LOC and review the PGF reel on file there is a chance (maybe a slim one) ole Bob's party may be over before it's started.

 

[GT/CS]

If someone on this board can make it to the LOC and review the PGF reel on file there is a chance (maybe a slim one) ole Bob's party may be over before it's started.

Are you saying that the Library of Congress should have a copy of what's copyrighted, that people can view?

 

[Spektator]

From the Library of Congress web site:

Special Deposit Requirements

Special deposit requirements exist for many types of works. The following are prominent examples of exceptions to the general deposit requirements:

• If the work is a motion picture, the deposit requirement is one complete copy of the unpublished or published motion picture and a separate written description of its contents, such as a continuity, press book, or synopsis.

(Emphasis added)

I assume the material is available for viewing; I have used the LOC to research material in rare books, and they are available for on-premises research (though they do not circulate and cannot be checked out).

 

[clayflingythingy]

Are you saying that the Library of Congress should have a copy of what's copyrighted, that people can view?

To keep everyone in the loop see post 362 in the Bigfoot-PGF Part 2 thread.

A copy of the PGF was placed with the LOC in 1983. The question is why and what is on the reel. Is it just the Patty Walk or is there more?

 

[William Parcher]

The headline of the party announcement was changed from:

Bob Gimlin is gathering a group of friends for a get-together...

to:

Friends of Bob Gimlin Present...

 

[makaya325]

Bob h is full of contradictions, along with gimlins. No hard evidence has been produced to support either case

 

[Drewbot]

Any possibility, that this will be Bob Gimlins admission of a hoax? He'll be there amongst his friends, able to face those that believed him for all these years, and able to finally clear his conscience. What a story! Bob Gimlin comes clean after 42 years, with supporters all around him, gets a standing ovation, or bood? either way it's off his chest.

 

[clayflingythingy]

While an admission of the hoax would bring a smile to my face, I suspect Salt of the Earth Bob will take the truth of the hoax to his grave.

 

[AtomicMysteryMonster]

While an admission of the hoax would bring a smile to my face, I suspect Salt of the Earth Bob will take the truth of the hoax to his grave.

I agree. No way they'd invite Bill Munns and then let that bombshell drop. Besides, the best day for him to reveal the hoax would be on April 1st. That way, proponents would assume that he was only kidding around and continue giving him attention, praise, and the like.

 

[GT/CS]

Paul @ the BFF rips into those in charge of the Yakima event.

As usual, no-one bothers to tell me anything, and this morning is the first I have heard of this, it is unfreakingbelieveable!


Tom, Bart, you are both friends of mine, but so is Scott, and to treat him in this way is the very last thing I would have expected from you - I can't put this strongly enough, I think the actions of the organisers on behalf of Bob Gimlin are disgusting. Bob has clearly stated that he sent the email, but that Tom and he were in agreement about the decision and the reasons for it.


I am grateful to Tom for organising a ticket for me, and I was very upset at not being able to attend because of pressures at work. Frankly, I'm glad it panned out that way - If I had been sitting here on this Monday morning planning to board a flight on Thursday, I would now be in a real quandry deciding whether I could in all faith attend an event where a long-standing, reputable member of the bigfoot community is barred from a public 'conference' (Tom's word, not mine) just because he dares to suggest that the PGF might be a hoax and for repeating that an arrest warrant was once issued against Bob Gimlin. I suspect I may well have bailed on the event given the choice, since I too am skeptical of the PGF - I wasn't there, and therefore cannot be 100% certain that it is genuine - and so I would also not have been welcome at this event.


Lets be honest about this, this isn't Beckjord we are talking about, none of you for a second think that Scott would disrupt the event in any way, shape or form, so you have barred him simply because of his opinion - that's a really ****** thing to do. Tell me Tom/Bobo, what did Bob Gimlin have to say about this decision you made on his behalf? What's that? you didn't tell him you say? Didn't think so - I however do care about his reputation, and feel that the organisers are damaging it, and so I will be sending Gimlin a printout of this thread. I think he needs to know what the 'friends of Bob Gimlin' are doing on his behalf.


Presumably Tom/Bart/Bobo, you are also barring Bob Gimlin from this event, since he too has gone on record as saying that there is a possibility that Patterson pulled off a hoax?

(BigfootDad @ May 9 2009, 06:38 AM)
Those that have been offensive and disrespectful and asked for tickets in Feb, well we'll see you at the next gathering when it's at a hotel in Seattle.

Don't think for a second that you will be allowed to promote any further events on this forum, and don't give me the "we aren't promoting this on BFF" crap - of course you are.