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Merged Lloyd England: Eye of the Storm

Turbofan said:
Are you guys really that clueless that you need math to figure out the
obvious?

The Annex is on a hill. The elevation is

2620 feet from the East edge of the Annex to the Pentagon.

Elevation at this point is 120 feet ASL.
Roof height at least 10 feet (could be a few stories).
Total above sea level: 130 feet minimum

Pentagon elevation 33 feet ASL
Roof height 77 feet from ground.
Total above sea level: 110 feet

Are these values good enough for you before I waste my time with slope,
g loads, etc.?
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Sure, go for it. Please draw a map for the flight path you are using also.
 
911files said:
I am not going to tit-for-tat with you Turbo, or the CIT folks either, because in the past it has proven to be a complete waste of time and unproductive. But that now that I have (in part anyways) responded to your question, please tell us how the tooth fairy staged Mr. England’s cab damage and provide the math behind these fantasy flight paths.
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I gave some scenarios a few posts back. More importantly, you need to
consider how the pole could have entered the cab without touching
the roof, or hood.

Here's a quick animation I put together in about 15 minutes. The car, highway
and pole is to scale.

http://www.procision-auto.com/911/p4t_lloyd_animation.swf

This animation will end up going to a full scale analysis using 3D images
and consider all aircraft, vehicle and pole dynamics. For now, try explain
the "floating horizontal pole".

Looking forward to your reply
 
Math turbo, not cartoons...the language of science, not fantasy.
 
Alt+F4 said:
I hope it was at least an American made hammer.
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Maybe it was...

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Turbofan said:
Here's a quick animation I put together in about 15 minutes. The car, highway
and pole is to scale.
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How many JREFers think Morgan Freeman should play Lloyd England when Turbo's video gets made into a movie?
 
Turbofan said:
Are you guys really that clueless that you need math to figure out the
obvious?

The Annex is on a hill. The elevation is

2620 feet from the East edge of the Annex to the Pentagon.

Elevation at this point is 120 feet ASL.
Roof height at least 10 feet (could be a few stories).
Total above sea level: 130 feet minimum

Pentagon elevation 33 feet ASL
Roof height 77 feet from ground.
Total above sea level: 110 feet

Are these values good enough for you before I waste my time with slope,
g loads, etc.?
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130 feet? No. Morin puts it 50 feet above the level of the roof at the annex (he also puts in South of Citgo, but hey, it is CIT we are talking about) so I'd use 230 feet asl for the data point above the annex.
 
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Alt+F4 said:
How many JREFers think Morgan Freeman should play Lloyd England when Turbo's video gets made into a movie?
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Samuel L. Jackson should play Lloyd (give us a good scene telling Craig and Alpo to get out of the mf house) and Pee Wee Herman should play Craig. Not sure if Alpo should be Jason Alexander or Drew Carey.
 
~enigma~ said:
Samuel L. Jackson should play Lloyd (give us a good scene telling Craig and Alpo to get out of the mf house) and Pee Wee Herman should play Craig. Not sure if Alpo should be Jason Alexander or Drew Carey.
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I was thinking Newman from Seinfeld.
 
911files said:
Math turbo, not cartoons...the language of science, not fantasy.
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Apparently, you can't read?

This animation will end up going to a full scale analysis using 3D images and consider all aircraft, vehicle and pole dynamics.

For now, try explain the "floating horizontal pole".
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You want some numbers to satisfy your fantasy?

Alleged car speed 40 MPH, Southwest.

Aircraft speed 462 Knots, Northeast

Pole length 25-30 feet after clipping, falling in a northeast direction

Highway width at pole #1, 46 feet

Car length 18 feet. Resting position middle lane facing Southwest.

Lane widths 12 feet, 12 feet, 19 feet, shoulders 3 feet

Car stopping distance from 40 MPH , about 40-60 feet.
Vehicle weight approximately 3800 lbs.

Human Reaction time, vehicle reaction time 200-400 milliseconds

fps at 40 MPH = ~ 58.67

Pole weight approximately 150-200 lbs.

Enjoy those few stats for now.

Now, what's your take on the floating, horizontal pole? The cartoon paints
a nice picture huh? :cool:
 
Turbofan said:
Apparently, you can't read?



You want some numbers to satisfy your fantasy?

<yadda yadda snip>

Enjoy those few stats for now.

Now, what's your take on the floating, horizontal pole? The cartoon paints
a nice picture huh? :cool:
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Auntie + Balls = Uncle

BV
 
Why is it when JREF members go off topic and post stupid pics, they
are allowed to remain? How many warnings is this guy going to get?
I've sent enough notices to the mods.

Wait, I know why...he's mad 'cause someone took his job. Fired much?
 
Turbofan said:
Why is it when JREF members go off topic and post stupid pics, they
are allowed to remain? How many warnings is this guy going to get?
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Says the troller who has to decorate his posts like a little school girl.

[turbofan] :rolleyes: See that Smiley. I just countered your argument.[/turbofan]
 
UNLoVedRebel said:
Says the troller who has to decorate his posts like a little school girl.

[turbofan] :rolleyes: See that Smiley. I just countered your argument.[/turbofan]
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:dl:

Poor TF REAL ENGINEERS in the REAL WORLD stand by and laugh at him and all he can do is post on JREF.
:dl:
 
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