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Tin Foil Timothy said:
Was that a serious post? :confused::confused:

Of course he could have Googled it but perhaps he wanted the forum's take on it.

There's nothing implying he suggested it had a secret meaning at all. You just made that up yourself
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No, asking certain types of question - especially starting a thread with certain types of question when you have indicated related speculations/beliefs/ignorance of many matters in previous posts and threads - both implies and requires such assumption from a skeptical person. No one needed to make it up, it is implicit in (his) previous entries here.
 
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You have to snicker when those who think they "know" everything about the "Jewish conspiracy" show they don't actually know enough about Jews or Judaism to understand its most basic terms. This is common in conspiracy theories: not one in 100 of those who claim "the Mossad" is behind everything can tell us what the word "Mossad" means, I'll bet, either.

Anyway, to answer your question, moon1969:

"Goy", absolutely literally means "nation", and in the Bible the word applies to the Jews as well as non-Jews. For example, God promises Abraham to make his children -- the Jews -- "a great Goy", that is, a great nation. Less literaly, It came to mean over time "another nation" (e.g., a non-Jewish one), or, by analogy, a "person of another nation" -- that is, anybody who isn't Jewish. It is not a deragatory term, but a neutral one: the equivalent of an American (or Brit) calling non-Americans (or non-British) "foreigners", or of a German calling a non-German an "auslander", etc.
 
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There's nothing implying he suggested it had a secret meaning at all.
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Er, he posted this in "Conspiracy theories" and tagged the thread "Jewish Conspiracy". I'd say that strongly suggests he thinks the term has a secret conspiratorial meaning.
 
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Ok - so - what if it did mean, "cattle?"

What's another word for Thesaurus?

In Japanese, the word, "ikura," means both 'how much' and 'salmon eggs.' You can't point at the salmon eggs at the Sushi Bar and ask, "how much," because the obvious answer is, "yes, salmon eggs!"
("Ikura desu ka?" "Hai! Ikura desu!" Very confusing.)

In German, the word, "gluck," means both luck and happiness, and it would take a seriously dedicated gambler to get them confused. In English, the word, "board," can mean provide, supply, ply, cater, enter, come in, get into, get in, go into, go in, move into, populate, dwell, live, and inhabit.

You couldn't possibly misunderstand that, "I will board Dr. Jenkins for the summer," meant, "I will get onto Dr. Jenkins for the summer," without that whole eye-patch, peg-leg, and parrot thing going on, now could you?

There are only so many sounds that go together in any language, and depending on your linguistic culture and origins, words sounding the same can have very different meanings.

If a cute little Israeli girl, during a passionate embrace, smiles and whispers in my ear, "so - you wanna be my Shabbas goy," I'd be pretty sure she's not talking about livestock.

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Well... actually... considering it's ME she'd be talking to... you know... she might be....
 
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Goyim(all non Jews) means cattle
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Huh? No, it doesn't. "Goy" means what I said above. The word for Cattle is "Bakar" (plural) and "Behema" (singular); "Parah" means cow, "Shor" an ox, "Par" a bull. A calf is an "Egel". None of these words have any relation whatever to "Goy" or "Goyim" (the plural of "Goy"). By the way, Vanya's word "son" puzzled me; I presume he means tzon, sheep.
 
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Old Bob said:
May be Lionking? who do you think is behind the money crash? Who will benefit in the long run,I could have a good guess. There is a risk that Israel could end up as a sheet of green glass, and that would fulfill a prophecy. If any of the people reading this have a very old dictionary you will find that meanings have been changed also anti semite words have been dropped. Goyim means cattle. Hide the truth and milk the Goyim.
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So what is the source of your infomration on this. Is it the Protocols of the Elders of Zion or is it a very Old Hebrew Dictionary.

I find what you're proposing to be remarkable. That a dispersed nation consipred to change the definition of a word in their living language. A huge conspiracy that implicates not just a few elite zionists but every hebrew speaker on the planet.

You've chosen to disregard the testimony of the self proffessed hebrew speakers who've given their definition of the word. Are they in on this conspiracy. Do you belive that they secretly think catle when they use the word Goyim to refer to us gentiles?
 
Old Bob said:
What sort of people would push Palestine to the point of starvation. Shoot young kids take some one's land and bulldoze homes.
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Humans. Humans with power tend to exploit humans without power. Israel does it to Palestine; The US does it to American Indian Nations, the American Indian nations did it to each other, the Anglo-Saxons did it to the Britons, the Normans did it to the Anglo-Saxons, and the Sumerians did it to whatever weak villages were near Sumer.
 
I cant think of any religion that has a nice way of refering to those who have another faith. they are called heretics, unbelievers, anti-christs, etc etc.
 
Muslims----Khafirs
Jews---Goys
Christians--heathens
Mormons---Gentiles

am I missing any?
 
parky76 said:
Muslims----Khafirs
Jews---Goys
Christians--heathens
Mormons---Gentiles

am I missing any?
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Probably only about one for every other culture in the world. You're just scratching the surface.

But the Christian--Heathen one is a bit off. Very few Christians actually still use the term heathen to define a non-Christian. Well, at least not that I've heard of.

Here, try on a few of these.... name the culture that uses the term for bonus points. ( These are merely the ones that I have personally been called by in various countries. My significant other uses at least three of them on me!)

Farang
Gweilo
Haole
Farangi
Get out of here you filthy effing sub-human! **
Waigworen
Gaijin
Gringo(a)

** Okay, that one's a give-away. That's used in OldBobLand.:spjimlad:
 
parky76 said:
I cant think of any religion that has a nice way of refering to those who have another faith. they are called heretics, unbelievers, anti-christs, etc etc.
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Well, I think being a non-jew has more to it than just being of "another faith".
 
Ocelot said:
So what is the source of your infomration on this. Is it the Protocols of the Elders of Zion or is it a very Old Hebrew Dictionary.

I find what you're proposing to be remarkable. That a dispersed nation consipred to change the definition of a word in their living language. A huge conspiracy that implicates not just a few elite zionists but every hebrew speaker on the planet.

You've chosen to disregard the testimony of the self proffessed hebrew speakers who've given their definition of the word. Are they in on this conspiracy. Do you belive that they secretly think catle when they use the word Goyim to refer to us gentiles?
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Yes, and you can see the changers in old English Dictionary's. You know it's true and wrong as it twists the legal implications in the Jew controlled courts. Dig a little deeper and you will find that the English language is copyright so you can only speak with permission in court. This is a hard subject to debate as all the Shabbos goyim (Wantabee Jews) and Jews will put a spin on this touchy talk and scream the usual "ANTI SEMITE jail the holocaust denigner"
 
Foolmewunz said:
Farangi
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I was always intrigued by the origin of this moniker. Pronounced or spelled differently as "Ferengi", it was a corruption of "Frank", which was a general application in the Islamic world to describe Europeans. Star Trek popularised the term by creating a race of traders known for their unscrupulous business methods.

There ought to be a special Godwin allowed for any literal use of the Protocols of Zion.

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Look familiar, Old Bob?
 
Old Bob said:
If some of you Jew lovers care to read stuff not written by Jews you may form a different picture. Anyway Israel was formed in 46 by PTB to create a flux in the middle east so the west could control the vast oil riches and it is still doing just that. The Palestine people owned all that area and it was taken from them. They could have given the Jews land anywhere in the world(eg Victoria comes to mind) but to put them in with the people who hate them ??
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Just no. As someone who studies this area (and indeed period, I'm doing my dissertation on the Middle East during the period of the creation of Israel) I can tell you that this is all a load of old nonsense.

As for quoting Elders....well.
 
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