AA77 FDR Data, Explained

[DavidJames]

If you had something you wouldn't be trolling internet forums to have debates with people you claim are unqualified on the subject matter, you'd publish a paper in an engineering journal, or submit a paper to the pilot's union revealing your shocking findings, or any of a myriad legitimate ways to blow open the whole ridiculously complex conspiracy you guys believe in without a shred of evidence.

Debating on the internet? FAIL.

Well said WildCat. The above paragraph says it all. They have nothing but ego's that need constant stroking. Responding to them with anything other then above simply feeds their egos.

Edit to add: Not that proof was needed.

yeah, I'm having fun. So far, I have more than 4 of you replying in less than an hour. This place is always great for the bored as those like you will always show up for some fun... almost like you're waiting for it...

 

[Turbofan]

Ok, you have really convinced me I should care and take you seriously

See my signature. Its clear not even your own 'experts' will step up to the plate to debate P4T.

Yet...

...one post here after several months of absence? You all jump on it like you were waiting for it, but claim you "dont care". Pleeease...

Thank you.

Get it yet?


I dont think you do... so we'll continue.

 

[Turbofan]

Well said WildCat. The above paragraph says it all. They have nothing but ego's that need constant stroking. Responding to them with anything other then above simply feeds their egos.

Edit to add: Not that proof was needed.

Hey DJ?

What happened to your JDX Fan Club Avatar?

Question: What does it mean when you spend almost everyday obsessed with people you think are nuts?

 

[stateofgrace]

I have posted this to show the how a simple comment is quickly taken out of context by the Twoof movement,

yeah, I'm having fun. So far, I have more than 4 of you replying in less than an hour. This place is always great for the bored as those like you will always show up for some fun... almost like you're waiting for it...

Of course, its even more fun that you expose yourselves... How's Parky76 doing anyway?

I do not have idea what you are babbling on about, nor do I care. I have given you the grace of addressing one of your posts. You have failed to return the same manners. Equally so I have no idea how Parky 76 is doing or what on earth it has to do with you failing to address legitimate questions.

Please try harder, when trying to convince Joe Public (me) you deserve to be heard, let alone replied to. Here are the questions you have failed (miserably to answer). Please try to do so, champ.

I'll answer you with your own words... is that ok?


Quote:

I do not have idea what you are babbling on about, nor do I care.

This is how its done when you mean it...

...one post here after several months of absence? You all jump on it like you were waiting for it, but claim you "dont care". Pleeease...

I don't care for your babbling, your twisting and taking comments out of context. I asked you simple questions; you answered with nothing and have failed to answer other simple questions put to you. Here they are again, ace.

rather than refute specific points of what MacGyver got wrong. You want to address his qualifications? what specific equipment he has worked with? Verify his real name? You want his SS number and address too?

now you have a new expert to refute the one that showed you to be the fool that you are? if thats not an argument from false authority than i don't know what is. He was YOUR expert. You sought him out in an attempt to show us how right you were. Instead he handed you your ass. You attempt to limit the participants like its some freakish radio show.

have your new PFT jackass log in here, lets see if he lasts two weeks.
his argument should stand on its own regardless of qualifications. put up or shut up

Make me care ace, make me like you a true believer, take a stab at the questions.

 

[Turbofan]

Make me care ace

Its clear you do and you have lied to even yourself when you said....

I do not have idea what you are babbling on about, nor do I care.

When you admit your mistake and admit you in fact do care, and tell us why you care, i'll answer your questions. Deal?

 

[WildCat]

its "New"... not "mew".

But i guess a "Wildcat" wouldnt understand since the "Wildcat" still doesnt grasp the duties of an Aircraft Accident Investigator, and keeps asking for an "FDR Expert" when the 'Wildcat's own "experts" couldnt decode an FDR file.

Wildcat.. you fail and so do your anonymous 'experts'

And yet, somehow, no actual experts agree with PfffT. Nor is L3 supporting PfffT. And the world still doesn't give a damn about you guys. Time, Newsweek, CNN, the Chicago Tribune, the New York Times, the Washington Post, etc etc etc all ignore you.

FAIL... it's all Cap'n Bob knows.

 

[Turbofan]

And yet, somehow, no actual experts agree with PfffT. .

Keep selling that to yourself "Wildcat" ... "mew"


The rest of us will click this link...

http://patriotsquestion911.com/pilots

...and watch the lists of 'experts' grow, while you continue to say your "FDR Experts" know more, yet cant decode an FDR file.... nor put their names to their claims to be confirmed as "experts".


Wildcat... did you know that "De-Nial" is not just a river in Egypt?

 

[stateofgrace]

Its clear you do and you have lied to even yourself when you said....
When you admit your mistake and admit you in fact do care, and tell us why you care, i'll answer your questions. Deal?

Read above, I do not repeat myself nor do I have to explain my comments over and over again.

Do I care for you and theory? NO, you are an amusement, a distraction from everyday life, a way to fritter away a few hours. I guess it is cruel in a way. Mocking, laughing and poking fun at the freaks and loonies but, hey, it passes away few dull hours.

If you had anything, sunbeam, anything at all, you would not be here, you would be all over the news, and you would be presenting your evidence to the highest authorities, demanding justice. But you will never do this, you will whinge on and on, on internet forum, twisting simple questions and taking comments totally out of context in order to fuel you own desire to proved right, to actually have seen something that everybody else missed. The sad fact dear boy is nobody here really gives a hoot about you and you friends. But, it is mildly amusing to see you getting all upset, demand deals and suddenly imagine you are taken so seriously that you actually warrant any sort of deal.

Tell you what pal, take your "evidence" to the authorities, get a peer reviewed paper and offer up a full narrative, backed fully by fact and evidence then maybe I will give you something other than a passing glance, something other than a mild distraction from my everyday life.

Deal?

 

[A W Smith]

When you admit your mistake and admit you in fact do care, and tell us why you care, i'll answer your questions. Deal?

Ill tell you why. when you came back and posted in this flight data thread, some of us assumed you had something new and relevant to the thread topic. Instead it was a meaningless call out post for an argument from higher authority, Against an authority you brought here in the first place. Without even the argument!!! you should have started a new thread admitting you had nothing and are here solely to compare credentials hoping that alone would win your argument. techs here have told you why your old assumptions were wrong. you simply re-stated those same assumptions over and over, sought out a higher authority hoping they would agree with you. they didn't. you fled. now you even admit you know macgyvers real identity. So why does your now higher authority not register? As i said, valid arguments should be able to stand on their own. regardless of who is arguing them. Yours don't. Admit you are wrong and stop this leapfrog nonsense.

 

[Turbofan]

Read above, I do not repeat myself nor do I have to explain my comments over and over again.

Do I care for you and theory? NO,

And i ask again.. you are here because? (by the way, P4T doesnt offer theory. Its fact the NTSB data doesnt support an impact. Havent you been paying attention to this thread?)

Disclaimer: forgive me, but when one "doesnt care", they dont read much from the alleged 'opponent', so i stopped reading at the clip above. He sure likes to type alot though for someone who "doesnt care"..lol

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Actually the NTSB data does support an impact at the Pentagon. And in your growing list, what are the FDR qualifications and expertise?


How are the DVD sales going?

 

[Turbofan]

Ok folks.. .im off for a bit... its good to see the JREF regulars are here when i want to have some fun...

Let us know when the "Mac" wants to actually take on real FDR Experts (or even that amature Ryan whatever). You know where to find us.

 

[A W Smith]

Actually the NTSB data does support an impact at the Pentagon. And in your growing list, what are the FDR qualifications and expertise?


How are the DVD sales going?

just realized why he is here. Sales at the on line store are falling. Barbecue aprons are out of season.

 

[stateofgrace]

And i ask again.. you are here because? (by the way, P4T doesnt offer theory. Its fact the NTSB data doesnt support an impact. Havent you been paying attention to this thread?)

Disclaimer: forgive me, but when one "doesnt care", they dont read much from the alleged 'opponent', so i stopped reading at the clip above. He sure likes to type alot though for someone who "doesnt care"..lol

Why am I here? Simple, to poke fun at you. I could not care less about your groundless, factless rubbish. Tell you what pal, since you are so big on deals, here is a deal for you.

“Flight 77 slammed into the Pentagon, killing all onboard"

Offer up your full narrative and I mean FULL narrative to prove that statement wrong.

Deal?

 

[A W Smith]

Ok folks.. .im off for a bit... its good to see the JREF regulars are here when i want to have some fun...

Let us know when the "Mac" wants to actually take on real FDR Experts (or even that amature Ryan whatever). You know where to find us.

See ya in Feb 2009, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. and be sure to come back with a spell check.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Well thank goodness they have those "real FDR experts" who have no actual experience in FDRs to school people like the NTSB who recover and decode and evaluate FDR data for a living. Brought to you by a group of people who claim to have uncovered the greatest crime in the history of mankind but choose to use the opportunity to sell DVDs instead of actually taking any action. What patriots they are!

 

[Turbofan]

Why am I here? Simple, to poke fun at you.

(caught the above on the way out)

Nice way to treat a fellow member of the JREF. Especially when you said...

I do not have idea what you are babbling on about, nor do I care.

hmmm... we'll let the reader decide on your age.

 

[stateofgrace]

(caught the above on the way out)

Nice way to treat a fellow member of the JREF. Especially when you said...




hmmm... we'll let the reader decide on your age.

Hmmmm and I sure that anybody who reads what is posted here will see exactly how you are taking this simple comment out of context but hey, do I care what you a babbling on about ? Not really..

As for my age, sun beam, I am old enough not to be sucked into buying into conspiracy garage and pretending that I see something that everybody else missed.

I am sure you are off to compose your full narrative before returning and then presenting it to the worlds media.I'm sure, with your compelling arguments you will soon be declared the savior of humanity.

Bye bye.

 

[WildCat]

Well it looks like the newest "expert" from PfffT won't be sharing his evidence of the crime of the century because no one wants to give Cap'n Bob their name and debate his newest champion.

Pity the perps will go unpunished because some asshat didn't get their ego properly stroked.

 

[jaydeehess]

Ok folks.. .im off for a bit... its good to see the JREF regulars are here when i want to have some fun...

Let us know when the "Mac" wants to actually take on real FDR Experts (or even that amature Ryan whatever). You know where to find us.

How about instead of 'having fun' , PfT tries to take this issue seriously and write up a consise technical paper to be submitted to serious organizations who can call upon recognized experts to analyse the claims made?

How about instead of inccessant argueing on internet forums between groups that accuse each other of incompetance to discuss the subject matter, PfT tries to take this issue seriously and write up a consise technical paper to be submitted to serious organizations who can call upon recognized experts to analyse the claims made?

Instead of calls for verbal debates on highly technical issues, PfT tries to take this issue seriously and write up a consise technical paper to be submitted to serious organizations who can call upon recognized experts to analyse the claims made?

Instead of calling for internet personae to devulge their identities for some arcane reason, PfT tries to take this issue seriously and write up a consise technical paper to be submitted to serious organizations who can call upon recognized experts to analyse the claims made?

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