Yakov Dzhugashvili

moon1969

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Why did Joseph Stalin sacrifice his own son Yakov Dzhugashvili for a nazi like Friedrich Paulus? Hitler and Nazi Germany offered to trade his son Yakov Dzhugashvili for Friedrich Paulus but when Stalin heard about the offer he said "I have no son,". How can anybody think that the end result of WW2 was a victory?
 
I'll have what he's having!

hey Moon! Don't toke-and-post, OK?
 
Considering that Stalin seems to be responsible for tens of millions of innocent deaths in his own nation, it seems a little silly to point to this one specifically. It would be like if we found out that Hitler enjoyed kicking puppies.
 
Stalin was a petty criminal and an Okhrana stool-pigeon who by pure accident and through Lenin's idiocy found himself in a leading position on the winning side.

What do you expect from a petty criminal who is also a stool pigeon? You don't expect the best of familial responsibility and care.
 
Considering that Stalin seems to be responsible for tens of millions of innocent deaths in his own nation, it seems a little silly to point to this one specifically. It would be like if we found out that Hitler enjoyed kicking puppies.

He did!? That monster!
 
Why did Joseph Stalin sacrifice his own son Yakov Dzhugashvili for a nazi like Friedrich Paulus? Hitler and Nazi Germany offered to trade his son Yakov Dzhugashvili for Friedrich Paulus but when Stalin heard about the offer he said "I have no son,". How can anybody think that the end result of WW2 was a victory?

He set an example. All soviet POWs were considered traitors, Stalin made no exception for his son.

As far as I heard, Stalin said something along the lines that he doesn't exchange generals for lieutenants.
 
Stalin was a petty criminal and an Okhrana stool-pigeon who by pure accident and through Lenin's idiocy found himself in a leading position on the winning side.

Pure accident? Lenin's idiocy? You seem to be talking about some sort of alternative universe.
 
Do let me know when you have any kind of reasoned argument at all, 'mmkay? :)

Here is my argument - Stalin was a master of semantics, which allowed him to succeed over his more popular opponents in the party political battles. He was a very capable politician.

Lenin was no idiot even in his latter days when his mind and body was severely weakened. He warned other party members about the Stalins flaws.

Now where are your arguments?
 
Why did Joseph Stalin sacrifice his own son Yakov Dzhugashvili for a nazi like Friedrich Paulus? Hitler and Nazi Germany offered to trade his son Yakov Dzhugashvili for Friedrich Paulus but when Stalin heard about the offer he said "I have no son,". How can anybody think that the end result of WW2 was a victory?

the end of WW2 was a victory against Fascism. only a fascist, would see this as not being a victory.
 
Yes America was proud of being and allie of Joseph Stalin during WW2. FDR supported Stalin. I will never leave in my home like my grandfather did because of Stalin. :mad: Karelia is Finland. You americans should be ashamed of you selfs for your FDR supporting Stalin and Truman dropping a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima.
 
yes america was proud of being and allie of joseph stalin during ww2. Fdr supported stalin. I will never leave in my home like my grandfather did because of stalin. :mad: Karelia is finland. You americans should be ashamed of you selfs for your fdr supporting stalin and truman dropping a nuclear bomb on hiroshima.




yaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwnnn!:)
 
I'm not entirely sure anyone particularly liked being the ally of a monster like Stalin. Plenty of evidence shows that neither Churchill or Roosevelt liked it. But its not like they had a choice. There was a war going on, you know. And as a pedantic point, Karelia was given to the Soviets at the conclusion of the Winter War. Which was 1940. When we weren't allied with the Soviets.

Its sad, and there seems to be plenty of diplomatic, peaceful discussion about returning Karelia to Finland, just going by wikipedia.

I've great respect for the Finns and their Sisu, and several of my friends come from Finland. So go Finns! Get that bit back, but through diplomatic means.
 

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