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How 9/11 was done

9/11-investigator said:
Any link to these posted pictures you are referring to?
There are thousands of links that state otherwise.
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Those links are all from the same lies told by Scott Forbes.

My friends were up the tower on that weekend during the time it was powered down according to Forbes. The power was not off in that tower above the floors concerned and there is no proof the power was ever off in the other tower. You are telling lies.

the pics are on this site as is information that shows Forbes was wrong.

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_power_down.html

I suggest you read that page and see how it collides with yours and Forbes claims before you continue to post gibberish about this here.
 
9/11-investigator said:
This is a non-starter because I could direct the same argument towards you, that you despise certain 'islamo-fascists'. Let's not go into the psychology game and assuming 'agenda's'. This leads to nowhere.
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ok, so you have your theory, we now await your evidence.

Seeya, we await your return with proof (and coincidences, suspicious circumstances, opinions, and anonymous sources without confirmation do not count as evidence).

TAM:)
 
Senenmut said:
this is damning israeli foreknoeledge (11 months before 911). this event takes place 10-15 miles away from the urban moving company. after i found out it was so close to the warehouse, i started to believe this story is probably more real than fake.
an ex idf soldier actually was the source of this article.

Prior knowledge of 9/11 attacks overheard in Hebrew
muckrakerreport.com/id324.html

What the observer of these happenings heard beneath him after the normal niceties were exchanged between the three men alarmed him. The man who arrived in the Town Car said, “The Americans will learn what it is to live with terrorists after the planes hit the twins in September.” One of the men that had been leaning against the retaining wall expressed concerns regarding whether the upcoming presidential election (November 2000) between Bush / Cheney and Gore / Lieberman could impact the plans. The man that arrived in the Town Car pacified the doubts by saying, “Don’t worry, we have people in high places and no matter who gets elected, they will take care of everything.”
In addition to overhearing in Hebrew, the statements, “The Americans will learn what it is to live with terrorists after the planes hit the twins in September”, and “Don’t worry, we have people in high places and no matter who gets elected, they will take care of everything”, the source also reports that he overheard one of the three men in the Gomel Chesed Cemetery say, “The Arabs are so stupid. They don’t even imagine that we are using them.” This comment should not be overlooked.
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this is hearsay.com
 
Senenmut said:
9-11 investigator-
atta is alleged to have an israeli accent. prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2004/061804voiceofatta.htm

Excerpts of a transmission from the cockpit of American Airlines Flight 11 believed to have been made by hijacker Mohamed Atta. The tape recordings were played for the first time at the final public hearing of the federal panel reviewing the September 11th attacks. Some people have speculated that the accent is that of an Israeli.
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this is speculation.com
 
Senenmut said:
9-11 investigator-
atta is alleged to have an israeli accent. prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2004/061804voiceofatta.htm

Excerpts of a transmission from the cockpit of American Airlines Flight 11 believed to have been made by hijacker Mohamed Atta. The tape recordings were played for the first time at the final public hearing of the federal panel reviewing the September 11th attacks. Some people have speculated that the accent is that of an Israeli.

as for a russian link to 911: (probably just a red herring) foreknowledge by putin!!
just type in putin + hussein and youll see the doc
Another explosive document which has already been widely publicized adds validity to the fact that Uday Hussein [Saddam’s younger son] needed to be quickly eliminated near the outset of a war with Iraq because he was aware of a letter which indicated prior knowledge of the 9-11 attacks.


Despite the fact that Delmart "Mike" Vreeland—the intelligence operative tasked to deliver the letter from Uday Hussein to Russian Federation President Vladimir Putin—has a controversial past at best, the inclusion of Uday in Cambone’s notes provides additional important evidence.
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Interesting links Senenmut!

Herzlich Willkommen to the forum since nobody else is going to welcome you. :D

Talking about fake: for years we were fed with the bin Laden story.

In the meantime the FBI has dropped bin Laden as a suspect! No evidence! :D

Anybody care to comment on that one?

9/11 the crime of the century, patriot act, surveillance state, ten's if not hundreds of thousand people killed in Iraq and no suspect. Can you believe that?
 
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9/11-investigator said:
This is a non-starter because I could direct the same argument towards you, that you despise certain 'islamo-fascists'. Let's not go into the psychology game and assuming 'agenda's'. This leads to nowhere.
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No, because our findings are based on EVIDENCE (even confessions), not bigotry. And yes this propaganda and conjecture DOES lead to nowhere, but you decided to start it anyways.
 
9/11-investigator said:
This is a word game.

Proper sequence:

1). fact finding (what you probably call evidence)
2). looking for suspects, motives
3). form one or more narratives
4). direct research in order to test narrative(s)
5). find evidence for narrative
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1. Gathering of physical evidence, Collection of eye witness accounts
2. Search for suspects based on the above and motives.
3. Collection of testimony from, where possible, suspects.
4. Form a narrative based on WHERE THE EVIDENCE LEADS YOU.
5. Prove the case in a court (of law, or of public opinion, or both).

We are still waiting for your physical evidence and witness testimony to confirm your theory/narrative on this matter.

TAM:)
 
could this be the "real" reason why we are in iraq.

In 2002 Zelikow made remarks interpreted as alleging that the United States entered the Iraq War to protect Israel, when he said:

“ "Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat (is) and actually has been since 1990 -- it's the threat against Israel,"
"And this is the threat that dare not speak its name, because the Europeans don't care deeply about that threat, I will tell you frankly. And the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically, because it is not a popular sell."[5]

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Breach of Rule 4 removed. Text copied from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Special_Plans

Please don't copy large sections of text from a copyrighted source. As a guideline, quote a paragraph or two and provide a link to the original.
 
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9/11-investigator said:
Interesting links Senenmut!

Herzlich Willkommen to the forum since nobody else is going to welcome you. :D

Talking about fake: for years we were fed with the bin Laden story.

In the meantime the FBI has dropped bin Laden as a suspect! No evidence! :D

Anybody care to comment on that one?

9/11 the crime of the century, patriot act, surveillance state, ten's if not hundreds of thousand people killed in Iraq and no suspect. Can you believe that?
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1. How is OBL's involvement fake???? prove it? We have his confession video. We have the fact that he is the leader of Al Qaeda, which planned said attacks. We have confession from KSM. We have OBL present during a meeting with Bin Al shebh, who was a co-conspirator. We have many of the hijackers as Al Qaeda members, or attendees at their training camps.

What do you have. the fact that the FBI website does not list him as "wanted" for the attacks, despite the fact that on his page there is a multi million dollar reward put up by the american pilots association for his capture.

The rest of your post is paranoid nonsense, speculation, insinuation, and as expected, VOID OF FACTS OR EVIDENCE.

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
ok, so you have your theory, we now await your evidence.

Seeya, we await your return with proof (and coincidences, suspicious circumstances, opinions, and anonymous sources without confirmation do not count as evidence).

TAM:)
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What would you accept as evidence? I am an amateur detective, just like you, hacking away on his laptop far away in Holland. I have no forensic institute, no police department behind me. So what do you expect?

En what about your evidence for your story?

- explain WTC-7 for me
- explain the Pentagon hole
 
dont know how i double posted....sorry.

anyway, here would be a motive.

Olmert calls Iran 'existential threat'
 
9/11 what would be accepted as evidence is something that IS NOT conjecture. So far all you have presented is conjecture.

You want him to explain WTC7? Have you not even bothered to read the NIST report? This and the Pentagon are covered in literally 100s of threads on this forum. Just because you came into the game late and are bringing up arguments that are from 5 years ago doesn't mean you cannot use the search function and do some real research that doesn't involve only looking at ways Jews could be behind it. If you did, you might be able to offer more than conjecture and speculation.

In the US, we have a thing called due process and don't go on witch hunts.
 
"What do you have. the fact that the FBI website does not list him as "wanted" for the attacks, despite the fact that on his page there is a multi million dollar reward put up by the american pilots association for his capture."

Who cares about these american pilots in this context.

The Justice Department is no longer looking for the guy from whom you say confessed 9/11 !!!

How do you explain that?

That's a MEGA-fact!

For years we heard about bin Laden all day. And now he went quietly down the memory hole.

Bin Laden served his purpose as an excuse to invade and to conquest and now he is obsolete.

Der Moor hat seine Pflicht getan, der Moor kann gehen.

Tell me TAM, are you guys going to miss me after you have thrown me down the memory hole and have nobody else than each other to debunk?
 
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Bin Laden not being on the wanted list is not evidence that the Jews were behind 9/11. And there are countless threads on that subject already and if you bothered to read them, you would know exactly why he is not on a wanted poster and you would know from the FBI themselves as to why.

And yes the US is most certainly still looking for Bin Laden. I would explain it as ignorance on the part of crackpots making that claim. It's not only NOT a mega fact, it's an outright lie.

He's not a memory hole. he's one of the hardest people in the world to find. It took a decade or so to find Eric Rudolph who was a few miles form his home and you somehow think that findings a guy who is protected by religious fanatics who are willing to give their lives for his safety and resides in areas of the world that we can't touch should be easy??? Well then why don't you tell us exactly where Bin Laden is then?

"Bin Laden served his purpose as an excuse to invade and to conquest and now he is obsolete."

This is simply something you made up. You have no factual basis for this, you just made it up. That is anything but a fact, it's an outright LIE.


Do you have anything to offer besides your speculation?
 
Oh no, he's pulled a mega fact. Time to bail out.

Notice he has ignored the power down evidence he was given.

ETA - 10/1 that PNAC document does not say what you think it says.
 
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9/11-investigator said:

The Justice Department is no longer looking for the guy from whom you say confessed 9/11 !!!

How do you explain that?

That's a MEGA-fact!
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So your evidence that the Justice Department is no longer looking for him is an FBI most wanted poster? That is interesting.

I was surprised to see that you seem to rely very heavily on holocaust denier Chris Bollyn. I was under the impression that holcaust denial was illegal in the Netherlands. I see that is not true. That is curious given that Amsterdam was the home of Anne Frank one of the most renowned and most discussed victims of the Holocaust.
 
9/11-investigator said:
What would you accept as evidence? I am an amateur detective, just like you, hacking away on his laptop far away in Holland. I have no forensic institute, no police department behind me. So what do you expect?
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If you're interested in finding out the truth about 9/11 then I would expect you to respond to substantive criticism of the claims posted on your blog. Instead, you ignore it. Don't be surprised if we draw certain conclusions from that.
 
9/11-investigator said:
What would you accept as evidence? I am an amateur detective, just like you, hacking away on his laptop far away in Holland. I have no forensic institute, no police department behind me. So what do you expect?
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Something. Anything.

Preferably something that makes sense.

9/11-investigator said:
En what about your evidence for your story?

- explain WTC-7 for me
- explain the Pentagon hole
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See the thing is, we have the evidence for our side. And it makes far more sense then what you are saying.

What exactly is wrong with WTC 7?
What exactly is wrong with the Pentagon?

Why do you mention WTC 7, but not WTC 3, or St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, or the North Bridge?
What makes WTC 7 different to those buildings?
 
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