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Merged Lloyd England: Eye of the Storm

Wow, you are unreal. You are so far off the mark, I have to draw you a
picture to make you understand. It's not about the light poles having the
'break-away' design, it's about the direction of traffic vs. direction of force
acting on the light pole.

Yawwwwn...sit tight, don't hurt your brain, I'll draw you a diagram later.

Ooooh, SEE-SAW TIME!!!

Poor Beachnut. I'm surprised nobody has tried to put you out of your misery yet.

For the record, I don't like the tone of that.

If you (like others should) would watch the video, you will notice that
LLOYD DENIES HE WAS EVER THERE, even after CIT shows him photo proof.

Thanks for reminding me how CIT and their cohorts want so badly to be baffled by simple WORDS. What would y'all do if Lloyd had said "the government doesn't want you to know this, but I'm a maple tree?" Or what if he'd said "Mrrhhinnamlsssmspppp!!!" That really doesn't fit with the official story, which must prove... something.

So you have words. Wow, that's amazing. They mean something, usually, but not when it's old lloyd trying to keep his memories straight, or trying not to, looking to keep in the limelight with CIT trying to get him to say weird things under their lamp. Guess what? he might say something weird.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

Wait, don't answer. Wait for the diagram.

Oooh, are you going to prove that he was on the bridge, as opposed to what he said with words? Wow! Also, can you prove Lloyd is not a maple tree?
 
It saddens me to think of this old cab driver giving hospitality to these CIT fools. I imagine Lloyd as a man who may be a bit lonely, maybe he has some kids from an earlier marriage that he never sees or something like that, then he gets Craig Ranke and Co. calling him up and wanting to come visit. He shows them around the place, chats a bit about what's on his mind (all that CT stuff he likes to read about) and stuff he remembers about 9/11 and probably offers them food and drinks. He probably likes these friendly young people who listen to everything he says like he is somone important and they even compliment his wife...

Then Craig turns around and accuses the guy of being an accomplice to mass murder. CIT, I know what the "C" stands for, and it isn't "Classy".
 
I'm sorry, I haven't checked in here in a while.

Have the calculations been rendered moot yet?
 
Whats the point of going to look at the cab, if all CIT was going to do was to take some crummy pictures of it? I thought the ( I ) letter in CIT stood for investigation, or am I wrong, and it stands for incompetent?
 
Thanks for the set-up, guys! They did investigate and gave us valuable photos! And the photos render Lyte's see-saw analogy moot!

Allow me to show - he's re-arguing his dunder-headedly simple case at the LCF
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/805019/1/
and used this photo:
Science proves that this is impossible:
see-saw.jpg
No it's not! Not when the girl's end is anchored to the ground! (look closer).

How deep did the pole wedge itself between the seat sections here before the heavy and started trying to see-saw, warping the frame up?
backseat_3.jpg


Nonetheless, investigators tho they are, the I really stands for Improv. Thank you again, Comedy Improv Team.
 
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Wow, you are unreal. You are so far off the mark, I have to draw you a
picture to make you understand. It's not about the light poles having the
'break-away' design, it's about the direction of traffic vs. direction of force
acting on the light pole.

Yawwwwn...sit tight, don't hurt your brain, I'll draw you a diagram later.



:eek:

Poor Beachnut. I'm surprised nobody has tried to put you out of your misery
yet. If you (like others should) would watch the video, you will notice that
LLOYD DENIES HE WAS EVER THERE, even after CIT shows him photo proof.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

Wait, don't answer. Wait for the diagram.
broken_record.jpg
 
Allow me to show - he's re-arguing his dunder-headedly simple case at the LCF
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/805019/1/
and used this photo:
CIT said:
Science proves that this is impossible:
see-saw.jpg
No it's not! Not when the girl's end is anchored to the ground! (look closer).

haha....Priceless.

Craig's research skills really shining through with that one.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall if/when they ever get around to presenting their theory to a prosecutor/judge.
 
How deep did the pole wedge itself between the seat sections here before the heavy and started trying to see-saw, warping the frame up?

Nonetheless, investigators tho they are, the I really stands for Improv. Thank you again, Comedy Improv Team.
You might think that after seeing the apparent warped frame of the back seat, that just maybe they might want to take the back seat out to get a look at the framing? Thats not the only thing they could have looked at closer, but maybe thats why they call them CIT .. {Counter Intuitive Team}.
 
Please people, I implore you, ignore these lunatics.

They are defaming an innocent man, don't give them the opportunity to continue.
 
haha....Priceless.

Craig's research skills really shining through with that one.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall if/when they ever get around to presenting their theory to a prosecutor/judge.
You really should check out this thread Craig started over at LCF concerning the light pole and damage to Lloyde's cab.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/805019/1/
So many gems I dont know where to begin.
Heres a little taste though (from Craig):
The event wasn't a static moment in space and time like the pictures you are observing.
Beam me up Scotty!

Well it would mean he has been mentally manipulated/hypnotized/mind-controlled somehow.

A lot of people believe that about him
Only delusional terrorist apologists pushing their twisted agenda.
 
Corroboration: Do you understand the term TexasJack?

Turbofan said:
Sure, attack the messenger and totally forget the fact the Lloyd's story
no longer holds water (as if it ever did...).

Some of you are real 'amazing' researchers.

I'm still curious to know if any of your "netgineers" can explain how the
light pole can suspend itself in mid air over the hood of the cab.
TexasJack said:
Corroboration, learn it. But I won't hold my breath, no truther has yet to able to understand it.
Corroboration - noun
1. confirmation that some fact or statement is true through the use of documentary evidence
2. to strengthen
3. The act of corroborating, strengthening, or confirming; addition of strength; confirmation; as, the corroboration of an argument, or of information.

You surely realize TexasJack that the photos of record, the VDOT dimensions, the interviews of Lloyde England, the examination of the taxicab, simple logic, are all useful towards the corroboration of whatever pertains to the truth, don't you?

According to corroboration by VDOT, the lamp head is 40 feet above ground level. By simple observation, the main light pole, tapered from 10 inches diameter at the base to 6 inches diameter at the top, and extruded from 1/8 inch thickness aluminum, and which weighs 247 pounds, is about 37 feet long and is straight. It seems about a four foot section lying beyond the taxi, was broken off the #1 light pole by an unknown force, at the lower truss arm connection. The remaining main pole length, which appears to be mechanically bent, would be about 33 feet in length.

Through corroboration from Lloyde England and the official script, this 33 feet is the length of pole which has been alleged to have been hurled in some miraculous unscientific method by an alleged 757 aircraft wing, flying east at 535 mph, to the north in the wrong direction, in some other miraculous unscientific fashion past the fuselage of this alleged aircraft, into the windshield of a taxicab allegedly driving south on Hwy 27 at 40 mph. Why this alleged light pole hurled into this taxicab like a javelin, did not destroy the taxi and kill the only occupant remains a mystery.

This is corroborated by the alleged driver of the taxicab, Lloyde England in live interviews and other previous media testimony, who claims he did not see where the pole came from, and also claims that he brought the taxi to a 40 foot skidding stop sideways in the road, with this 33 foot pole through the windshield, between the front seats, smaller diameter end stuck in the leather back seat, and the larger diameter base end sticking out over the hood in mid-air.

As corroborated by simple measurement of the taxi, observation of the hole in the center of the windshield, and the taxi interior, and common sense, about 6 feet of the pole was inside the taxi interior, between the front seats, and nestled in the back seat, with the bent portion of the pole about at the windshield. About 5 feet of the pole was poised in mid-air above the hood, with the remaining 22 feet of the heavier base end of the pole sticking out past the bumper in mid-air. How less than 15% of the pole's mass could support more than 85% of the pole's mass suspended in mid-air through this wild gyration remains a mystery.

As corroborated by the photos of the taxi taken on 9-11-2001, the highly waxed hood of the taxi is undamaged by this pole, even through the alleged sideways skidding stop from 40 mph. Furthermore, the 33 foot long pole was allegedly removed from the windshield at the request of the driver, by a silent mysterious stranger and Lloyde himself, without damaging the hood in any way, even though the pole allegedly rolled in the hands of Lloyde, allegedly knocking him down with the pole on top of him.

As corroborated by a multitude of photos taken on the morning of 9-11-2001, there is not one photo of the alleged pole through the windshield, nor a photo of two persons removing the pole from the windshield. Also quite curious, is the evident fact that the pole hanging in midair past the bumper, would be much longer than the distance across the highway exit lane to the guard rail. Why the end of the pole did not hit the guard rail and slam the pole into the driver also remains a mystery.

As also corroborated by a multitude of photos taken on the morning of 9-11-2001, there is no sign of bandages or bandaids on the face of Lloyde England, which might have covered cuts and injuries from the alleged shattering of glass in his face. Furthermore as corroborated by the same photos, the elderly Lloyde England was kept out in the open by the apparent Federal agents guarding the taxicab, standing near the rear bumper of his taxi for hour after hour of photo ops, obviously in no need of treatment or bandaging of cuts or injuries.

Oddly, as corroborated by a multitude of witnesses from Arlington National Cemetery and the Cito gas station, and others, the actual aircraft flew Over the Naval Annex and North of the Citgo, and could not possibly have knocked down this light pole nor the other 4 light poles nearby. And recently on 9-12-2008, this flight path Over the Naval Annex and North of the Citgo was corroborated by the FAA federal agency.

Isn't that interesting?
 
Isn't that interesting?
What's really interesting is that neither CIT nor PfT have taken their "evidence" to the police, FBI, DA's, lawyers, insurance fraud investigators, or anyone who could review it and begin action to achieve justice.

That, CT boy, is interesting.
 
What's really interesting is that neither CIT nor PfT have taken their "evidence" to the police, FBI, DA's, lawyers, insurance fraud investigators, or anyone who could review it and begin action to achieve justice.

That, CT boy, is interesting.
How would you possibly know what they have done or not done?

Neither CIT nor Pilots for 9/11 Truth are required to inform their enemies of their actions.
 
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Corroboration - noun
1. confirmation that some fact or statement is true through the use of documentary evidence
2. to strengthen
3. The act of corroborating, strengthening, or confirming; addition of strength; confirmation; as, the corroboration of an argument, or of information.

You surely realize TexasJack that the photos of record, the VDOT dimensions, the interviews of Lloyde England, the examination of the taxicab, simple logic, are all useful towards the corroboration of whatever pertains to the truth, don't you?

According to corroboration by VDOT, the lamp head is 40 feet above ground level. By simple observation, the main light pole, tapered from 10 inches diameter at the base to 6 inches diameter at the top, and extruded from 1/8 inch thickness aluminum, and which weighs 247 pounds, is about 37 feet long and is straight. It seems about a four foot section lying beyond the taxi, was broken off the #1 light pole by an unknown force, at the lower truss arm connection. The remaining main pole length, which appears to be mechanically bent, would be about 33 feet in length.

Through corroboration from Lloyde England and the official script, this 33 feet is the length of pole which has been alleged to have been hurled in some miraculous unscientific method by an alleged 757 aircraft wing, flying east at 535 mph, to the north in the wrong direction, in some other miraculous unscientific fashion past the fuselage of this alleged aircraft, into the windshield of a taxicab allegedly driving south on Hwy 27 at 40 mph. Why this alleged light pole hurled into this taxicab like a javelin, did not destroy the taxi and kill the only occupant remains a mystery.

This is corroborated by the alleged driver of the taxicab, Lloyde England in live interviews and other previous media testimony, who claims he did not see where the pole came from, and also claims that he brought the taxi to a 40 foot skidding stop sideways in the road, with this 33 foot pole through the windshield, between the front seats, smaller diameter end stuck in the leather back seat, and the larger diameter base end sticking out over the hood in mid-air.

As corroborated by simple measurement of the taxi, observation of the hole in the center of the windshield, and the taxi interior, and common sense, about 6 feet of the pole was inside the taxi interior, between the front seats, and nestled in the back seat, with the bent portion of the pole about at the windshield. About 5 feet of the pole was poised in mid-air above the hood, with the remaining 22 feet of the heavier base end of the pole sticking out past the bumper in mid-air. How less than 15% of the pole's mass could support more than 85% of the pole's mass suspended in mid-air through this wild gyration remains a mystery.

As corroborated by the photos of the taxi taken on 9-11-2001, the highly waxed hood of the taxi is undamaged by this pole, even through the alleged sideways skidding stop from 40 mph. Furthermore, the 33 foot long pole was allegedly removed from the windshield at the request of the driver, by a silent mysterious stranger and Lloyde himself, without damaging the hood in any way, even though the pole allegedly rolled in the hands of Lloyde, allegedly knocking him down with the pole on top of him.

As corroborated by a multitude of photos taken on the morning of 9-11-2001, there is not one photo of the alleged pole through the windshield, nor a photo of two persons removing the pole from the windshield. Also quite curious, is the evident fact that the pole hanging in midair past the bumper, would be much longer than the distance across the highway exit lane to the guard rail. Why the end of the pole did not hit the guard rail and slam the pole into the driver also remains a mystery.

As also corroborated by a multitude of photos taken on the morning of 9-11-2001, there is no sign of bandages or bandaids on the face of Lloyde England, which might have covered cuts and injuries from the alleged shattering of glass in his face. Furthermore as corroborated by the same photos, the elderly Lloyde England was kept out in the open by the apparent Federal agents guarding the taxicab, standing near the rear bumper of his taxi for hour after hour of photo ops, obviously in no need of treatment or bandaging of cuts or injuries.

Oddly, as corroborated by a multitude of witnesses from Arlington National Cemetery and the Cito gas station, and others, the actual aircraft flew Over the Naval Annex and North of the Citgo, and could not possibly have knocked down this light pole nor the other 4 light poles nearby. And recently on 9-12-2008, this flight path Over the Naval Annex and North of the Citgo was corroborated by the FAA federal agency.

Isn't that interesting?

LOL! What about the DNA? What about the FDR? What about the plane parts? What about the phone calls? What about the witnesses that saw the plane hit the Pentagon?

And what do you have? A witness who can't even remember Princess Diana's name. It's time for you and the Hardly Boys to realize the definition of corroboration blows your argument away.
 
What's really interesting is that neither CIT nor PfT have taken their "evidence" to the police, FBI, DA's, lawyers, insurance fraud investigators, or anyone who could review it and begin action to achieve justice.

That, CT boy, is interesting.

I believe that they have attempted this already and got back these results:

:dl:
 
Can't you stay on topic TexasJack?

TexasJack said:
LOL! What about the DNA? What about the FDR? What about the plane parts? What about the phone calls? What about the witnesses that saw the plane hit the Pentagon?

And what do you have? A witness who can't even remember Princess Diana's name. It's time for you and the Hardly Boys to realize the definition of corroboration blows your argument away.
What in the world do those matters have to do with the thread Lloyd England: Eye of the Storm?
 
What in the world do those matters have to do with the thread Lloyd England: Eye of the Storm?

Everything, it's called corroboration of evidence, and trumps the recollections of the aging memory of England.
 
Everything, it's called corroboration of evidence, and trumps the recollections of the aging memory of England.
But poor SPreston has no idea what corroboration actually means. He posted the definition, but unfortunately he doesn't understand the words in the definition.
 

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