Merged Lloyd England: Eye of the Storm

[alexi_drago]

What twisting? Lloyd was free to speak on his own.

Give me an example of twisting during this interview please.

I never said there was is this interview although it has been edited and the producer felt the need to make points to the viewer at times. What I meant though is that in the search for the truth, there have been many people mis-quoted or out of context so why should anyone in his position show any trust?

 

[beachnut]

Let me sum up this 90 minute video for those too dumb and lazy to watch it:

Lloyd England says, "I was not on the bridge. Whatever those pictures show,
it's not where I was that day. I know I was there. I was never near the bridge."

So my, "Critical Thinkers", do the official pictures lie?

Is the Critically Insane Team, CIT too dumb to be liars, and the worse investigators in the world. The only people who support them are terrorist apologist, lacking knowledge and the ability to form rational ideas on 9/11. What combination of drugs is required to fall for the idiot ideas of CIT.

One photo proves Lloyd next to the impact area where the death of those on flight 77 and those caught in the Pentagon occurred on 9/11. The final true track of 61.2 degrees the path of the light posts confirmed on the FDR, which you also fail to understand.

The military you claim did this, are dying and dead in the Pentagon in this photo. Your lack of empathy is expected for a terrorist apologist like you and CIT who spread lies and false information freely due to ignorance on 9/11 and the subject areas needed to make rational conclusions.

The funny part is how easy it is to see how stupid CIT's efforts are; and how you missed the thread and repeated the introduction of this stupidity.

 

[Turbofan]

So, the seat is only made of leather? No metal frame or padding under the leather? Just a big 'ole chunk of leather stuck in the back?

Man, Lincoln must really be cheaping out on their interiors.

Oh wow, now we have super strong sponge/foam, and some dinky wire framing
(if any) in the seat.

Is that still enough to support 171 lbs? Get real.

Someone please show me how the cab allowed the pole to enter if the "plane"
was nearly perpendicular to traffic flow?

 

[Turbofan]

Is the Critically Insane Team, CIT too dumb to be liars, and the worse investigators in the world. The only people who support them are terrorist apologist, lacking knowledge and the ability to form rational ideas on 9/11. What combination of drugs is required to fall for the idiot ideas of CIT.

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One photo proves Lloyd next to the impact area where the death of those on flight 77 and those caught in the Pentagon occurred on 9/11. The final true track of 61.2 degrees the path of the light posts confirmed on the FDR, which you also fail to understand.

The military you claim did this, are dying and dead in the Pentagon in this photo. Your lack of empathy is expected for a terrorist apologist like you and CIT who spread lies and false information freely due to ignorance on 9/11 and the subject areas needed to make rational conclusions.

The funny part is how easy it is to see how stupid CIT's efforts are; and how you missed the thread and repeated the introduction of this stupidity.

Yawn. Another wanna-be that didn't watch the video or observe the interior
damage.

Guess what, Lloyd says he wasn't on the bridge

Care to show me the fyziks behind this pole spearing the back seat Mr. Beachnut?

 

[The Big Dog]

Oh wow, now we have super strong sponge/foam, and some dinky wire framing
(if any) in the seat.

Is that still enough to support 171 lbs? Get real.

Cripes, I better get a new car, I weigh more than 171 pounds!

"On February 3, 1967, the NHTSA issued a final rule requiring that folding forward backrest locks of seats withstand a load of only twenty times the weight of the entire seat (20g) in a longitudinal direction. The standard also requires that seatbacks sustain a rearward static moment equal to 3300 in.-lb applied to the upper crossmember in a rearward longitudinal direction."

 

[Bobert]

Someone please show me how the cab allowed the pole to enter if the "plane"
was nearly perpendicular to traffic flow?

Maybe the pole asked the cab real nice?

 

[Caustic Logic]

Caustic, that's some pretty strong leather to hold up a street lamp.
Unbelievable excuses here.

So, the seat is only made of leather? No metal frame or padding under the leather? Just a big 'ole chunk of leather stuck in the back?

Man, Lincoln must really be cheaping out on their interiors.

Here's the rip - they did have photos:

Thank you Craig. Any observations, anyone?

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Oh wow, now we have super strong sponge/foam, and some dinky wire framing
(if any) in the seat.

Is that still enough to support 171 lbs? Get real.

God help me if I have to sit down in my car again if that were true... the budget cuts must be insane...

And for the life of me.... can somebody please tell me where the pole-in-cab photo is if there is one? All I'm finding is photos with the pole on the road next to the taxi cab, and the cab having a new sky light added to the windshield

 

[John Blonn]

Looks like the biggest tear in the seat was not the 'hole' but at the place where the top of the seat meets the bottom. The seam, if you will.

Could the pole have fit in that large tear, perhaps?

 

[Turbofan]

Cripes, I better get a new car, I weigh more than 171 pounds!

Cripes! you better get some debate skills and logic...or at least hang yourself
from a 30 foot pole extending through your windshield supported by a tiny hole the
size of a belt buckle.

Please tell me you guys are getting paid for these insane answers?

 

[John Blonn]

Please tell me you guys are getting paid for these insane answers?

$20 a post. It's a p. sweet deal.

 

[DGM]

Looks like the biggest tear in the seat was not the 'hole' but at the place where the top of the seat meets the bottom. The seam, if you will.

Could the pole have fit in that large tear, perhaps?

There's actually no seam there. The seat back and bottom are two pieces. And yes the post could easily slide between them . Only a clueless dolt would not consider that possibility. (unless they didn't want to know the truth)

 

[beachnut]

Yawn. Another wanna-be that didn't watch the video or observe the interior
damage.

Guess what, Lloyd says he wasn't on the bridge

Care to show me the fyziks behind this pole spearing the back seat Mr. Beachnut?

Physics!; this is too easy.
The post is a breakaway post, engineers worked on the old post that use to kill people and they made breakaway posts so the posts would fall, not fly with large amounts of KE from impacts; gee, I give you physics, you give me apologies for terrorists. Your lack of knowledge and experience is hopefully a temporary setback for you.

More physics, the post does not weigh much, so it was easy to use leverage, or just plain pick it up with help off of the cab! Physics works, you fail to use it.

I saw the interior of the cab. 7 years and you bring more lies and false information. The cab driver is clearly in line with the flight path of 77; use your eyes Luke.

Guess what, he was right where the photo places him; 7 years of lost memories and a dollar twenty-five will get you coca-cola.

Darn, right below 77 flight path, not one of your failed paths of 50 Gs. p4t are not very smart, they are catching what CIT has. Terminal stupidity. Cure?, education.

 

[DGM]

Turbofan:
Care to explain (or ask your buddy Craig) why the seat back is no longer tucked behind the lower seat (see picture post #127)? You shouldn't see that gap unless the seat backs metal frame is damaged.

 

[beachnut]

Here's the rip - they did have photos:

Thank you Craig. Any observations, anyone?

Gee, a light weigh lamppost in a seat made to hole a 250 pound person with in luxury. A post weighing less than a person? Wow, what a non event the idiots of CIT have chosen to make into a smoking gun, that marks them as idiots on this topic!

Is that stuff from the post on the seat? Yes it is stuff from the lamppost. Oops; CIT made an error! They tried to think.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

Cripes! you better get some debate skills and logic...or at least hang yourself
from a 30 foot pole extending through your windshield supported by a tiny hole the
size of a belt buckle.

Please tell me you guys are getting paid for these insane answers?

Wait, you think that the hole in the seat is the only thing holding up the light pole? I mean even if it was planted, that's the absolutely stupidest thing anyone has ever said.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

 

[The Big Dog]

Wait, you think that the hole in the seat is the only thing holding up the light pole? I mean even if it was planted, that's the absolutely stupidest thing anyone has ever said.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

Yup, the pride of PFFT. Notice how the hero completely ignores the citation regarding the regulations applicable to seat capacity. What a putz.

He was told three pages ago about fulcrums and levers, but he has been moving the goal posts all day.

I'm still waiting for his calculation on the new official CIT NOC Flight Path I posted on page two.

 

[Bobert]

Give him some time. He has to grab his crayons and drawing pad and bigwheel on over to the CIT treefort to meet with Captain Bob, Alpo, and Sir Rankness

 

[HawksFan]

Any bets on whether there's a dent in the floor pan behind that seat? Bet they never opened the trunk to look.

 

[Turbofan]

Yup, the pride of PFFT. Notice how the hero completely ignores the citation regarding the regulations applicable to seat capacity. What a putz.

He was told three pages ago about fulcrums and levers, but he has been moving the goal posts all day.

I'm still waiting for his calculation on the new official CIT NOC Flight Path I posted on page two.

What does seat capacity regulation have to do with a piece of leather
suspending a pole? Who's the putz?

I'm still waiting for someone to give me flight data, or something tangible
to work with in order to calculate your stupid nonsense.

What you have asked me is essentially:

A car took a corner really fast, calculate why is not able to stay on the road.

You guys provide comedy at a level no other site can.