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Psychics - Aussie skeptic says it like it is

tyr_13 said:
Farms would have a good grasp on, as you put it, "the seasons, the weather, the soil, the trees, the animals," as you say, but in what world does that relate to 'psychic' scam artist?

You're wrong assuming Fitz knows nothing about these 'psychic' scam artists. He shows that he knows at least the basics. This has been gone over in this thread already. You can just reread.

You're wrong to assume that farmers know better about psychic effects than anyone else. There is no more a tie to what they do than what most other jobs do with the 'occult'.

And don't try to accuse me of not understanding farmers and the land. That's a stupid road to go down. I have pictures.
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Well tyr 13, we seem to be going around in circles aren't we.

But what we have learned, is that Fitzy has never been to a Psychic so he has no first hand experience, OK!
And from what we know of Fitzy there is nothing to suggest that he knows anything of the occult.

So where the **** does he get the facts that he bases his opinions from?

Ill give you a guess.
Second hand info from a website............like derr :o

Give me a break!

But I suppose he too could have the "pictures" ????????????:confused:
 
buzz lightyear said:
Well tyr 13, we seem to be going around in circles aren't we.

But what we have learned, is that Fitzy has never been to a Psychic so he has no first hand experience, OK!
And from what we know of Fitzy there is nothing to suggest that he knows anything of the occult.

So where the **** does he get the facts that he bases his opinions from?

Ill give you a guess.
Second hand info from a website............like derr :o

Give me a break!

But I suppose he too could have the "pictures" ????????????:confused:
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I haven't had to part with my hard earned to see a psychic in order to come to the conclusion they are frauds - they are unconvincing enough on the TV, even with all the selective editing advantage it often affords.
 
Buzz, firstly, how do you know he has never been to a psychic? Secondly, are you suggesting that you have to have the first hand experience of cutting your arm off to know it would be painful?

Now, please provide just a little bit of evidence that psychics do what they claim to. Otherwise give us a break.
 
Sideroxylon said:
I haven't had to part with my hard earned to see a psychic in order to come to the conclusion they are frauds - they are unconvincing enough on the TV, even with all the selective editing advantage it often affords.
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Mate, as it has been said to me "this is a skeptic forum and if you want to spout off then present some PROOF".

So if AndyD wants to put old numb nut Fitzy up as someone to be listened to on matters of psychics, then give me the "proof" that he knows what he is talking about.

Did you see that word ................."proof"..... its a double edged sword.
 
buzz lightyear said:
Mate, as it has been said to me "this is a skeptic forum and if you want to spout off then present some PROOF".

So if AndyD wants to put old numb nut Fitzy up as someone to be listened to on matters of psychics, then give me the "proof" that he knows what he is talking about.

Did you see that word ................."proof"..... its a double edged sword.
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We are not the ones making the extraordinary claims. Those who say psychic powers exist must provide the evidence. I have looked for it but only found people playing guessing games, amongst other cheap trickery.
 
buzz lightyear said:
Mate, as it has been said to me "this is a skeptic forum and if you want to spout off then present some PROOF".

So if AndyD wants to put old numb nut Fitzy up as someone to be listened to on matters of psychics, then give me the "proof" that he knows what he is talking about.

Did you see that word ................."proof"..... its a double edged sword.
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Oh that's rich. The implication is that we should listen to you because you know what you are talking about.

Proof please. Put up or shut up.
 
lionking said:
Oh that's rich. The implication is that we should listen to you because you know what you are talking about.

Proof please. Put up or shut up.
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Sorry lionking, you seem to have that wrong. It is the person making the claim who requires the proof.
In this case it is AndyD making the claim.

The claims that I have made on this forum I have backed up with proof.
In fact my aim in posting them on this forum was to check the validity of this "proof".

So far the claims that I have made have stood up quite well.

Whether this is still the case, when and if The Atheist comes good at my invitation to venture through the gates of hell, only time will tell.
 
So you are asking AndyD to prove psychics are full of crap? Jeez, how many times does "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" need to be repeated?

So come on, where is your proof of the validity/accuracy of psychics? So far all you have come up with is some vague reference to "the occult".

And please understand, that if it can be proven that psychics can talk to the dead or predict the future, I would be overcome with joy.

I am certain this is not the case. Please prove me wrong (with or without the "help" of Old Bob).
 
buzz lightyear said:
Sorry lionking, you seem to have that wrong. It is the person making the claim who requires the proof.
In this case it is AndyD making the claim.

The claims that I have made on this forum I have backed up with proof.
In fact my aim in posting them on this forum was to check the validity of this "proof".

So far the claims that I have made have stood up quite well.

Whether this is still the case, when and if The Atheist comes good at my invitation to venture through the gates of hell, only time will tell.
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I don't think AndyD is claiming anything, he has just linked to a video of interest.
 
You are now trolling, nothing more. Why repeat the OP, which wasn't yours in the first place?

Care to offer any evidence for psychics?

Didn't think so.

Meathead? Look in the mirror.
 
Arthwollipot, my apologies for thinking you were a lazy shiny bum sponging off the workers of Australia. Just watched Fitz display of stupidity on channel 7. The stupid-------hasn't got the brains to understand or at least say. "I'm not sure about that". We are all entitled to believe what we think is true. But to rudely ram op ions down some one Else's throat leaves one word, "Meat head."
 
That meathead Fitzy is at it again.
In his column in the Sun Herald today, he talks of new advertising that is going up on London buses saying "There's probably no god. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life".
These adverts are being paid for by a few people and one of those is Richard Dawkins.
Fitzy agrees with it. He must be a meathead.:D:D
 
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But wait! You make another claim. That Fitz gets his information from websites. 1.) Proof? 2.) So? 3.) Where do you get yours? (I can think of some likely places, but for civilities sake I won't say them.)

We will not give you a break. We will hold you to the same standard as everyone else. Your opinion's aren't worth the electrons they are encoded with without backup.

'Because farmers say so,' is not backup. It's just silly.
 
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