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dtugg said:
If you do this, I will shut forever about you being a liar.
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I have tried that and you just ignored what i posted, why shouid i post more?

Why should i post to someone who has shown that will lie about accepting facts shown?
 
Quad4_72 said:
No I am not going to leave the forum if you post your badge. I WILL however, believe that you work for the NSA.
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Well that was the deal i had with others. When i prove who i am and who i work for they have to leave the forum.
 
I am the third billy goat gruff...

"Who’s that stomping over my bridge?" roared the troll, resting his chin on his hands.

"Billy Goat Gruff," said the third goat in a deep voice. "I’m going up to the mountain to eat the lush spring grass."

"Oh no you’re not," said the troll as he clambered up on to the bridge. "I’m going to eat you for breakfast!"

"That’s what you think," said the biggest Billy Goat Gruff. Then he lowered his horns, galloped along the bridge and butted the ugly troll. Up, up, up went the troll into the air... then down, down, down into the rushing river below. He disappeared below the swirling waters, and was drowned.

"So much for his breakfast," thought the biggest Billy Goat Gruff. "Now what about mine!" And he walked in triumph over the bridge to join his two brothers on the mountain pastures. From then on anyone could cross the bridge whenever they liked - thanks to the three Billy Goats Gruff.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Well that was the deal i had with others. When i prove who i am and who i work for they have to leave the forum.
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Sorry Ultima. I choose not to act like a little immature 15 year old. I simply call people out when I can tell they are lying. YOU Ultima, are lying.

Now, answer the second part of my post where i asked you to identify which part of your posted article disagrees with NIST's findings.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
I have tried that and you just ignored what i posted, why shouid i post more?

Why should i post to someone who has shown that will lie about accepting facts shown?
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I accepted that the GGD pay scale exists (although it is exactly the same as GS). By the was doesn't it suck to only be a GS9 equivalent after working for the federal government your whole life? I would be very pissed.

None of the documents you posted prove that it is you. If your dad works for the NSA, it would have been very easy for you to just steal them. And since, with your posting, you seem like a child, this is probably the case. If you take a picture of yourself holding your NSA badge, there wouldn't really be any other explanation other than it is you.

Since the credibility of your entire story about the Flight 93 intercept rely on whether or not you have been truthful about your job, I don't see why you wouldn't want to establish once and for all that you are who you say you are. Especially since NOBODY here believes you. EVERYBODY here thinks that you are a liar. I am just giving you an opportunity to clear it up. You don't seem to want to do that.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Well its the only way i have found that people will face reallity.
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Lying to people makes them face reality?
Must be one of those super-secret NSA techniques for searching for the truth. Or is that another way of "thinking for yourself"? Making stuff up?
Wow, and all this time I thought it was looking at things objectively, using logic, and coming to realistic conclusions. Great big silly me!
Thank you ULTIMA1 for showing me the true way!
By the way, your shoe's untied.
 
dtugg said:
Since the credibility of your entire story about the Flight 93 intercept rely on whether or not you have been truthful about your job, .
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So wrong.

The credablilty of the documents about the Flight 93 intercept rely on the fact that they come from NSA.

As stated by the conformation letter from NSA.
 
Quad4_72 said:
I will leave you alone for the second on the badge thing. But now, show me where in that article it contradicts NIST's findings.
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Of equal or even greater significance during this initial impact was the explosion when 90,000 L gallons of jet fuel, comprising nearly 1/3 of the aircraft’s weight, ignited. The ensuing fire was clearly the principal cause of the collapse.
 
applecorped said:
Normal?

Yikes!

:jaw-dropp:boggled::eye-poppi:eek::eye-poppi:eek::boggled::jaw-dropp:covereyes:jaw-dropp
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You're right to register surprise (if somewhat flamboyantly :D): The tower fires were far from normal. They were among the largest in history in terms of sheer acreage, only to be exceeded by WTC 7's conflageration later that day.

There was nothing normal about those fires whatsoever. Furthermore, there was nothing normal about the damage that occured when the jets impacted the towers, nor was there anything "normal" about the dislodging of the fireproofing, except from the point of view that high speed impacts are supposed to dislodge it.
 
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ULTIMA1 said:
Of equal or even greater significance during this initial impact was the explosion when 90,000 L gallons of jet fuel, comprising nearly 1/3 of the aircraft’s weight, ignited. The ensuing fire was clearly the principal cause of the collapse.
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Thank you for proving NIST correct.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
So wrong.

The credablilty of the documents about the Flight 93 intercept rely on the fact that they come from NSA.

As stated by the conformation letter from NSA.
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No.

The credablilty [sic] rests on the fact that you claim to have read the document yourself. The fact that you got a confirmation letter from the NSA doesn't mean that the documents say what you claim. It could be that they are intercepts concerning phone calls and radio transmissions, for example. Or it could not even exist. This has been explained to you plenty of times. There is no way that somebody who has a job like you claim to could not understand this.
 
Quad4_72 said:
Thank you for proving NIST correct.
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Can you read?

The NIST report stated it was a COMBINATION of impact and fire.

This articel states the fire was the main cause, NOT A COMBINATION OF IMAPCT AND FIRE.
 
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ULTIMA1 said:
Can you read?

The NIST report stated it was a COMBINATION of impact and fire.

This articel states the fire was the main cause, NOT A COMBINATION OF IMAPCT AND FIRE.
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Yes it was a combination of impact and fire. OBVIOUSLY, if there was no impact there would be no fire. But the fire is what led to the inward bowing and weakening of the steel, which your article also addresses and agrees with NIST. Why do twoofers post evidence that only proves them wrong?
 
whats interesting is that ULTIMA1 freely posts a media report again...because it agrees with his conspiracy theory. Even though that article is just that, an article, and not an official report by any means.

Too funny!
 
dtugg said:
No.
The fact that you got a confirmation letter from the NSA doesn't mean that the documents say what you claim.
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The fact that the letter states it found the specific document i was looking for does mean that.

It could be that they are intercepts concerning phone calls and radio transmissions,
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Please read the letter i recieved from NSA. It clearly states that i requested a document about the interception of the aircraft not the intecept of phone or radio calls. Both NSA and I would have specifed the difference.

There is no way that somebody who has a job like you claim to could not understand this.
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No because of the job i have means i understand a lot more then you.
 
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