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Racist McCain/Palin Supporters

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That's really sad. Ignorance is everywhere. I heard this on Howard Stern recently on the other side. It's funny, but almost as sickening as the McCain video.

Warning for the F word by Howard a few times.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCcHzUmVP5c&feature=related

Listen at the end. There is also a black McCain supporter who starts by saying he votes on the issues and still gets it wrong.
 
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Is that the worst they could find? Seems the reporter was most concerned about exposing anti-Muslim bias. Wonder why?
 
Tailgater said:
Really? I thought he leaned left. Actually, I thought he was more independent because he's kind of all over the map on issues.
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IIRC, Stern is some sort of a Libertarian. At least, he ran for governor once as a Libertarian. With him, you can never really tell whether something like that is real or just a gag.
 
Clippy said:
Is that the worst they could find? Seems the reporter was most concerned about exposing anti-Muslim bias. Wonder why?
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It's not just that. It's that so many people vote based on fear and ignorance and not about what is important to them no matter which party it is. Both parties have created a voter base dominated by narrow interests that ignores the overall good and survival of the country. In the first vid, people are concerned he's in bed with terrorists. Seriously? I might not vote for him, but c'mon. In the second vid, people can't even match the policies with the candidate or know who the vp pick is. It's really sad overall.
 
Tailgater said:
It's not just that. It's that so many people vote based on fear and ignorance and not about what is important to them no matter which party it is. Both parties have created a voter base dominated by narrow interests that ignores the overall good and survival of the country. In the first vid, people are concerned he's in bed with terrorists. Seriously? I might not vote for him, but c'mon. In the second vid, people can't even match the policies with the candidate or know who the vp pick is. It's really sad overall.
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I completely agree with you, both parties care nothing about the good of the country. Sad to say, but Americans deserve the lack of choice they have.
 
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If I remember right, the first black governor of a US state saw something like a 9-point drop in popularity, going from the polls to the Polls.

People will say one thing, then go into that little booth and say, "I am not gonna vote for that... " well... you know the word.

It's human nature. We're all schlubs.

The good news is that, no matter what happens or who gets elected, the USA is still flexible enough to keep stumbling along, just as we have in the last two centuries or so... same as it ever was.

 
JohnTheRevelator said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

It's videos like these that make me wonder if CNN, FOXNews, NBC, ABC, and etc. get the same responses and get them on tape but censor it from final screening. Good thing we have Al Jazeera English to show the whole thing.
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How much do you know about film editing?

Curious.

Did you follow the Deomcratic Party's primaries?

Care to comment on the racist strains showing up there, from a variety of sides?

I pointed out to Elind some months ago that America has been demonstrating the symptoms of tribal voting for quite some time. This election is unlikely to see it decrease, particularly as the economy starts to tank.

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I personally think voting for some just because he is black is not as bad as not voting for obama just because he IS black.

Black people have endured a lot of racism in the past century and there has never been a black president. Wanting the first black president is not as bad as not wanting one.

That's my opinion.
 
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Wanting the first black president is not as bad as not wanting one.
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I heartily endorse that opinion.

I knew a lot of black people who endorsed Clinton in the primaries. Their thoughts on Obama generally rant to something like "Dude's got to show me something first. Hillary already has."

I even have a few black friends who are die-hard Republicans. Their thoughts on Alan Keyes? "What a freaking lunatic!"

It aint all about race, people. A big part of it is the man himself. Even BillO seems to like him on some level.:jaw-dropp

When the choice is between a crotchety old geezer who seems comfortable maintaining the structure of society as it has been for the decades upon decades he has been around and a man who is a fulfillment of Dr King's dream, and who realizes that Dr King's dream was of a blessing conferred on all of us together, as a single HUMAN race, voting for the black guy is not that absurd.

It would be beautiful to believe that we have, as a nation, matured to the point that we are not going to let our prejudices cause us to accept the second-best candidate just because he came out of the right gene pool.
 
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I personally think voting for some just because he is black is not as bad as not voting for obama just because he IS black.

Black people have endured a lot of racism in the past century and there has never been a black president. Wanting the first black president is not as bad as not wanting one.

That's my opinion.
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I disagree. Not that it isn't your opinion, of course ... it most certainly is, but that both positions show a form of ignorance that is at the heart of resulting in poor, irrational and often times destructive outcomes. One can no longer claim that race is not an issue if the person's race is a factor in voting for them ... or not voting for them. Regardless of a person's race, gender, or whatever, weighing a decision on such matters is foolish, and indicative of a person's racial underpinnings on such issues. Racial bias is just that ... racial bias.

Yes, yes, I keep hearing the argument of how no one can understand the racial turmoil of blacks in the US unless he or she is black. And although that may carry much weight, that is not the issue when electing a person. They are there to represent everyone ... and work for everyone. I am an atheist, but I would never elect a person as president simply to put that first atheist in the White House. They must offer a platform that I am not only comfortable with, but one that I feel will benefit the country and US population as a whole. I would vote for Pat Robertson if I felt he would do the overall better job ... yes, that's a stretch, but I hope you see my point.

So, as I can understand your opinion as such, I hope you can understand that others have theirs as well. And it is in no way based on a person's physical makeup or cultural history.
 
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Tailgater said:
It's not just that. It's that so many people vote based on fear and ignorance and not about what is important to them no matter which party it is. Both parties have created a voter base dominated by narrow interests that ignores the overall good and survival of the country. In the first vid, people are concerned he's in bed with terrorists. Seriously? I might not vote for him, but c'mon. In the second vid, people can't even match the policies with the candidate or know who the vp pick is. It's really sad overall.
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I wonder how many people they had to interview before they got those four people who couldn't match the policies and vice presidents with their preferred candidate.

I guess in a world in which so many people believe so many different ridiculous kinds of woo, we shouldn't be very surprised by this either.
 
Just thinking said:
I disagree. Not that it isn't your opinion, of course ... it most certainly is, but that both positions show a form of ignorance that is at the heart of resulting in poor, irrational and often times destructive outcomes. One can no longer claim that race is not an issue if the person's race is a factor in voting for them ... or not voting for them. Regardless of a person's race, gender, or whatever, weighing a decision on such matters is foolish, and indicative of a person's racial underpinnings on such issues. Racial bias is just that ... racial bias.

Yes, yes, I keep hearing the argument of how no one can understand the racial turmoil of blacks in the US unless he or she is black. And although that may carry much weight, that is not the issue when electing a person. They are there to represent everyone ... and work for everyone. I am an atheist, but I would never elect a person as president simply to put that first atheist in the White House. They must offer a platform that I am not only comfortable with, but one that I feel will benefit the country and US population as a whole. I would vote for Pat Robertson if I felt he would do the overall better job ... yes, that's a stretch, but I hope you see my point.

So, as I can understand your opinion as such, I hope you can understand that others have theirs as well. And it is in no way based on a person's physical makeup or cultural history.
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What if you think that there would be a beneficial social effect, such as improved race-relations? Is that legitimate grounds to consider as one of many factors?
 
Puppycow said:
I wonder how many people they had to interview before they got those four people who couldn't match the policies and vice presidents with their preferred candidate.

I guess in a world in which so many people believe so many different ridiculous kinds of woo, we shouldn't be very surprised by this either.
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Its almost hard to believe sometimes. I remember when the Kennedy-McCain immigration bill was introduced. My Mexican in-laws were discussing the rumor that the bill was an underhand attempt to get them deported because it was cosponsored by a Republican. They are a mix of citizens, residents, and illegals. No one bothered to read and understand the bill, but they sat around discussing how they would be tricked into leaving for Mexico and not let back in.
 
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