Meadmaker
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MeadMaker: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are Government Sponsored Enterprises,
Your argument is, at least in part, that any action by a GSE, or by the central bank (the fed) constitutes government interference in the free market, and you are equating that with regulation.
I don't think you are wrong. However, you are off on a page that just isn't in line with what either political party in the United States is thinking. We aren't going to shut down the Fed any time soon. We could shut Fannie and Freddie, but it isn't very likely.
When we talk about deregulation vs. strict regulation, we aren't really talking about government interference in markets. Maybe we should be, but we aren't. Technically, giving Freddie and Fannie free reign is a form of "regulation", because it constitutes government interference in the market for some government, frequently non-economic, motive, but that isn't what we mean when we talk about tighter regulation. When we say deregulation, we mean letting Fannie and Freddie, and maybe other financial institutions, have more rope.
FWIW, I think that Fannie and Freddie probably shouldn't exist, and I think that government should be extremely cautious in promoting such superficially great goals as low income home ownership. That way lies madness. However, we are there and neither President Bush, Congressional Democrats, nor Congressional Republicans want to go any other route. It's just an argument about the best way to get there.
It may be true that CRA loans themselves have a lower rate of default than the rest of the economy, but it is also true that the CRA, and the expansion of its role under Clinton, opened the door to these "creative" financing techniques.
Why would the door have been closed were it not for the CRA? I don't think the CRA had anything to do with opening the door to these creative financing techniques. Certainly the quote you posted doesn't indicate such.
Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
So, it was "under increasing pressure" from the Clinton administration? Unless I misread something, that means the Clinton administration didn't actually do anything, but threatened to do something in the future. Meanwhile, stockholders were demanding more profits. That seems like ordinary stockholder behavior.
However, this was posted in repsonse to my request for backing of your claim that "Congress explicitly directed Fannie and Freddie to expand their lending to borrowers with marginal credit". But this quote doesn't mention any explicit direction from anyone, and it doesn't mention Congress at all.
How can the stricter land use regulations be so unconvincing as a regulation causing the problem? These were "open space" laws, motivated not by attempts to deal with human problems caused by economic and population growth, but by environmentalist ideology.
The desire to live near green, undeveloped, land is not environmentalist ideology.
If you want to help poor people own their own homes, contribute to "Habitat for Humanity", or become an architect or developer with a mind towards creating affordable housing. Don't go pumping hundreds of billions of dollars into the housing industry. That will only inflate housing prices. Don't use government to encourage bankers to lend more money. Same thing.
While I have criticised your response about what constitutes "deregulation", I wish to say again that I agree with your core claim, as expressed here. I do think that it should not be a goal of government to help poor people own their own homes. Certainly, such a goal should not be accomplished through direct or indirect market manipulation, or anything that remotely resembles income transfer. Unfortunately, we have two political parties that disagree.