Mother Nature's most valuable plant

[ravdin]

A truther? So many people around here use that term in such a derogatory manner, as if wanting to know the truth is somehow a bad thing. There are so many naive folks in this forum who actually believe World Trade Center Building Number 7 just committed suicide "and" that George W. Bush and Bill Clinton are good and decent people.

Wow! Oh, and so many of the truth-haters also believe orderliness doesn't require intelligent direction either. Talk about naive.

My advice to you is to refrain from posting for a little while after you've been doing bong hits.

 

[bwinwright]

Pretty much everything you've posted is BS, but this is life threatening.

If this "Rick Simpson" has been saying this to actual cancer patients and they believe him, are you aware Simpson could be charged with murder?

Sword of Truth, you can believe all the lies if you want. If you or your loved ones are diagnosed with cancer, go ahead and let those good doctors poison, burn, and slash you. That's YOUR decision.

Sword, were you aware you CAN'T, by law, treat cancer in America with NATURAL medicine if you wish to be an "accredited" doctor and member of the AMA?

That's why all the doctors who TREAT cancer with herbs, etc. are forced out of America into Mexico or somewhere else. Remember, my naive friend, if you can not get a patent on it, you can't make BIG MONEY!!!!!!

If you believe this allopathic form of treatment actually works, then, take it! If you do some homework I think you may change your mind. Try listening to Eustace Mullins' little 30 minute video called Murder By Injection on the internet. Read his book too.

If you trust these doctors, in my opinion, you are making a huge mistake. Statistics show that people, diagnosed with cancer, who decide to receive NO TREATMENT actually live longer than those who take this allopathic form of treatment. Plus, their quality of life is far superior during their final days.

But, like most folks, you probably trust the AMA, ACS, NIH, FDA, and the rest of these honorable folks. You probably believe George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld too.

All I can tell you is what I have discovered after many years of research. I wouldn't trust the American medical establishment on a bet. All I can tell you is what I believe, based on a lot of research. If I am ever diagnosed with cancer, I will never subject myself to the Slash, Poison, and Burn doctors.

 

[SezMe]

Hugh Downs narrates a 10 minute long audio on the internet. That's where I got most of my info.

'Splains a lot.

 

[bwinwright]

Look, I'm all for legalization. And I have been known, on occasion, to partake.

But some of the claims made by marijuana advocates are just bat-crap crazy.

Yes, hemp can be (and is) used for useful things like rope, clothing, brownie recipes, etc.

However, it is not a wonder-drug that will cure cancer, a way to get off foreign fuel dependency, and a means to end poverty and bring about world peace.

Making these sorts of claims only accomplishes one thing - it makes the entire legalization effort (such as it is) look goofy.

Cleon, why do you make such claims about the medicinal properties of Hemp Oil when you couldn't possibly know for sure? You're just guessing. And, regarding the energy capabilities, you don't know beans about that either.

It's difficult for any of us to know for sure about any of this because of the greedy wealthy folks who have managed to make a PLANT illegal. Doesn't this seem to bother you at all? A Friggin PLANT!!!!! It's all about MONEY!

Grow up my naive friend.

 

[paximperium]

Evidence? Scientific evidence? Are you kidding? Anyone trying to get this information into an "accredited" scientific journal would be totally ignored. If they persisted, they'd have a heart attack, die in a plane crash, or worse.

That means you have none? Not surprising information from bwin.

I'm talking about a plant that, if legalized, would cost a few major players a lot of BILLIONS in losses.

Really? Evidence?

If you want evidence, do some homework. Hugh Downs narrates a 10 minute long audio on the internet. That's where I got most of my info. Of course, the Rick Simpson thing, healing cancer thing, is simply on the internet.

Why haven't the allpowerful overlords killed them yet?

Regarding the cancer thing, check out HOXSEY, ESSIAC, Royal Raymond Rife, etc. All of these have allegedly cured numerous "TERMINAL" cases of cancer. The Rife thing is really interesting. He was a perfect 16 for 16 before "they", allegedly the Rockefeller-led FDA criminals, burned down his clinic, destroyed his research and his frequency machine and made Rife nuts.

No. You post the information and links. No one is here to do your homework for you and no one believes you.

The things folks will do for money and power is very ugly sometimes. Do you need proof of this too. Just do some homework. Suppressed cancer cures is a good place to start.

No. You do your homework.

You are claiming something that could kill people. You either back that up

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Edited for civility.

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Please remember to attack the argument, not the arguer.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LibraryLady

 

[paximperium]

Sword of Truth, you can believe all the lies if you want. If you or your loved ones are diagnosed with cancer, go ahead and let those good doctors poison, burn, and slash you. That's YOUR decision.

I would. Evidence is on my side. BS and delusional paranoia is on yours.

Sword, were you aware you CAN'T, by law, treat cancer in America with NATURAL medicine if you wish to be an "accredited" doctor and member of the AMA?

This shows your complete and utter stupidity. It is a good thing, it prevent quacks like you from claiming to perform magic cures.

A "certified" Oncologist is certified by the American Board of Internal Medicine. A board certified Radiation Oncologist is certified by the American Board of Nuclear Medicine.

Less than half of all doctors are members of the American Medical Association. Thanks for playing.

That's why all the doctors who TREAT cancer with herbs, etc. are forced out of America into Mexico or somewhere else. Remember, my naive friend, if you can not get a patent on it, you can't make BIG MONEY!!!!!!

Thanks the almighty Zeus that we have standards to prevent quackery.

If you believe this allopathic form of treatment actually works, then, take it! If you do some homework I think you may change your mind. Try listening to Eustace Mullins' little 30 minute video called Murder By Injection on the internet. Read his book too.

Why? Who is this fella? What has he published? What are his credentials?

If you trust these doctors, in my opinion, you are making a huge mistake. Statistics show that people, diagnosed with cancer, who decide to receive NO TREATMENT actually live longer than those who take this allopathic form of treatment. Plus, their quality of life is far superior during their final days.

You are a liar. Provide this evidence or be shown to be the liar that you are.

But, like most folks, you probably trust the AMA, ACS, NIH, FDA, and the rest of these honorable folks. You probably believe George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld too.

Yawn...he likes his straw people doesn't he?

All I can tell you is what I have discovered after many years of research. I wouldn't trust the American medical establishment on a bet. All I can tell you is what I believe, based on a lot of research. If I am ever diagnosed with cancer, I will never subject myself to the Slash, Poison, and Burn doctors.

Research? Don't make me laugh. Oh wait...you mean you read the internet and read quacks...nevermind. You've shown that you are ignorant. Your conclusion is complete and utter garbage.

PS: Didn't you say you loved everyone? Where's the love? All I ever hear from you is hate.

 

[paximperium]

Cleon, why do you make such claims about the medicinal properties of Hemp Oil when you couldn't possibly know for sure? You're just guessing. And, regarding the energy capabilities, you don't know beans about that either.

It's difficult for any of us to know for sure about any of this because of the greedy wealthy folks who have managed to make a PLANT illegal. Doesn't this seem to bother you at all? A Friggin PLANT!!!!! It's all about MONEY!

Grow up my naive friend.

So the only evidence you have for any of your claims is the lack of evidence? Great argument. Great show of ignorance.

 

[Twiler]

Nature doesn't care if you live or die. Only intelligent entities can care if you live or die.

Plants are just another kind of thing.

 

[paximperium]

If you believe this allopathic form of treatment actually works, then, take it! If you do some homework I think you may change your mind. Try listening to Eustace Mullins' little 30 minute video called Murder By Injection on the internet. Read his book too.

Great. A quick google shows him to be anti-semitic, anti-flouride, anti-vaccination, anti-medicine, anti-science, world wide conspiracy theory believer, gold bug, anti-Federal Reserve and is apparently a poet...nope, no science education at all.

 

[Mashuna]

Sword of Truth, you can believe all the lies if you want. If you or your loved ones are diagnosed with cancer, go ahead and let those good doctors poison, burn, and slash you. That's YOUR decision.

Sword, were you aware you CAN'T, by law, treat cancer in America with NATURAL medicine if you wish to be an "accredited" doctor and member of the AMA?

That's why all the doctors who TREAT cancer with herbs, etc. are forced out of America into Mexico or somewhere else. Remember, my naive friend, if you can not get a patent on it, you can't make BIG MONEY!!!!!!

If you believe this allopathic form of treatment actually works, then, take it! If you do some homework I think you may change your mind. Try listening to Eustace Mullins' little 30 minute video called Murder By Injection on the internet. Read his book too.

If you trust these doctors, in my opinion, you are making a huge mistake. Statistics show that people, diagnosed with cancer, who decide to receive NO TREATMENT actually live longer than those who take this allopathic form of treatment. Plus, their quality of life is far superior during their final days.

But, like most folks, you probably trust the AMA, ACS, NIH, FDA, and the rest of these honorable folks. You probably believe George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld too.

All I can tell you is what I have discovered after many years of research. I wouldn't trust the American medical establishment on a bet. All I can tell you is what I believe, based on a lot of research. If I am ever diagnosed with cancer, I will never subject myself to the Slash, Poison, and Burn doctors.

I'm sorry that you've wasted years of your life. I sincerely hope you reconsider your position, if you are ever unfortunate enough to suffer from cancer.

I also hope you're not responsible for the wellbeing of anyone else.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

All I can tell you is what I have discovered after many years of research. I wouldn't trust the American medical establishment on a bet. All I can tell you is what I believe, based on a lot of research. If I am ever diagnosed with cancer, I will never subject myself to the Slash, Poison, and Burn doctors.

Expected life span has more than doubled over the last century. On average, everyone now has an afterlife. The medical establishment must be getting something right.

 

[phantomb]

Evidence? Scientific evidence? Are you kidding? Anyone trying to get this information into an "accredited" scientific journal would be totally ignored. If they persisted, they'd have a heart attack, die in a plane crash, or worse.

Wait, what about all the experts from the OP? If they are indeed today's experts in this field of study, you should at least be able to give us a little evidence in the form of their testimony.

. . . These experts do exist, right?

In addition, the seeds produce three times more oil than any other plant seed, environmentally friendly oil that, experts today say, can handle upwards of 90% of our total energy needs.

 

[tyr_13]

Dangers are hyped, benefits are hyped. Peanuts are a better plant. Personally, I like grapes and apples. All three have more food and industrial uses than hemp.

 

[Amapola]

Gosh, bwinwright, I hate to break this to you, but the US is not the only country in the world. Yes, hemp is illegal here. But it is not illegal everywhere on the planet.

Since it is not illegal everywhere on the planet, why don't we see any of these wonderful benefits you are talking about? Why aren't those countries using hemp oil instead of petroleum products?

And what about the claim that hemp is from another planet? Do you believe that too? Take a look:

The pot plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that cannabis is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the ONLY plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes; except for cannabis. To determine what sex a certain, normal, Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuallity. Growers know to kill the males before they fertilize the females. Yes, folks...the most potent pot comes from 'horny females.'

From here.

That is *also* written on the internet. So do you think that makes it true?

For everybody else: Clearly the author of the little essay I have quoted is not as knowledgeable about plant sexuality as one would hope. For example, he appears not to be aware of asparagus.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Mother Nature's most valuable plant

Grass, the kind you find in pastures, fields and lawns.

Cows and sheep eat it, and I eat the cows and sheep, completing the energy transfer from the sun to me, via a bit of water, photosynthesis, and digestion.

Magical plant.

 

[UnrepentantSinner]

Amapola, and they say pot is harmless.

Great. A quick google shows him to be anti-semitic, anti-flouride, anti-vaccination, anti-medicine, anti-science, world wide conspiracy theory believer, gold bug, anti-Federal Reserve and is apparently a poet...nope, no science education at all.

He's willing to go against the grain and stand up to the establishment. That means what he's saying must be true!

 

[Crundy]

I sincerely hope you reconsider your position, if you are ever unfortunate enough to suffer from cancer.

I'm not. bwinwright, if you ever do get cancer, please use only herbal remedies to cure yourself. Let us know how it goes.

 

[Dancing David]

Evidence? Scientific evidence? Are you kidding? Anyone trying to get this information into an "accredited" scientific journal would be totally ignored. If they persisted, they'd have a heart attack, die in a plane crash, or worse.

I'm talking about a plant that, if legalized, would cost a few major players a lot of BILLIONS in losses. If you want evidence, do some homework. Hugh Downs narrates a 10 minute long audio on the internet. That's where I got most of my info. Of course, the Rick Simpson thing, healing cancer thing, is simply on the internet.

Regarding the cancer thing, check out HOXSEY, ESSIAC, Royal Raymond Rife, etc. All of these have allegedly cured numerous "TERMINAL" cases of cancer. The Rife thing is really interesting. He was a perfect 16 for 16 before "they", allegedly the Rockefeller-led FDA criminals, burned down his clinic, destroyed his research and his frequency machine and made Rife nuts.

The things folks will do for money and power is very ugly sometimes. Do you need proof of this too. Just do some homework. Suppressed cancer cures is a good place to start.

Yup, those are great sources and some whining, up there with most whining. Could you try a more coherent position? You can make a case but you haven't.

 

[Dancing David]

Sword of Truth, you can believe all the lies if you want. If you or your loved ones are diagnosed with cancer, go ahead and let those good doctors poison, burn, and slash you. That's YOUR decision.

Sword, were you aware you CAN'T, by law, treat cancer in America with NATURAL medicine if you wish to be an "accredited" doctor and member of the AMA?

That's why all the doctors who TREAT cancer with herbs, etc. are forced out of America into Mexico or somewhere else. Remember, my naive friend, if you can not get a patent on it, you can't make BIG MONEY!!!!!!

If you believe this allopathic form of treatment actually works, then, take it! If you do some homework I think you may change your mind. Try listening to Eustace Mullins' little 30 minute video called Murder By Injection on the internet. Read his book too.

If you trust these doctors, in my opinion, you are making a huge mistake. Statistics show that people, diagnosed with cancer, who decide to receive NO TREATMENT actually live longer than those who take this allopathic form of treatment. Plus, their quality of life is far superior during their final days.

But, like most folks, you probably trust the AMA, ACS, NIH, FDA, and the rest of these honorable folks. You probably believe George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld too.

All I can tell you is what I have discovered after many years of research. I wouldn't trust the American medical establishment on a bet. All I can tell you is what I believe, based on a lot of research. If I am ever diagnosed with cancer, I will never subject myself to the Slash, Poison, and Burn doctors.

Yup, instead of magic Sky Pixie, we have the Magic Earth Pixie, you don't know what critical thinking is, do you?

Try a coherent argument. And try presenting your evidence, we might agree, we might not.

If this was high scholl rhetoric, you get a 'D-', mainly for not citing your sources or quoting the passages that support your arguments in the one citation you do give.

You could actualy try, instead of this editorial overgenralization, even with some citations, you get a 'C-'.

Now a direct question:

In November a mole that I had been watching developed a spiral structure like a galaxy, it also had increased in size from about 2.5 mm to 3.9 mm.

1. What do you think I should have done, rather than see a 'Slash and Burn' dermatologist?

 

[Dancing David]

Well if Mullins is your idol it is no wonder you don't know anything about citations and research,

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3920620/Eustace-Mullins-Murder-by-Injection


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustace_Mullins