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Psychic Samurai applies for MDC...apparently...

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Profwag said:
Slim,
On post 424 of the "Applied..." thread, you said "I have had GREAT success making contact at the Devil's Chair. I have chosen 10/31 because many deceased personalities, the most famous being Houdini himself, have Requesed that day. It is also historically claimed to be the perfect day to make contact."
Based on your own statement, the test CAN be done at other times. You are just making excuses for it to be done that day. Additionally, it is a requirement that others have witnessed your claim prior to making an application. Was this witnessed last year on Oct 31? I think not. It appears you have not spoken the truth...again...
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Are you an idiot?
I've never said the test could be done on any other day!
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snoop_doxie said:
The Professor said,


Excellent! Let Jackal Girl help you with this protocol. In my short time here, she has proven (to me) to be extremely patient and quite fair.


The Professor said,


Are you saying that envelopes would fail because you are able to manipulate them in some way? So, Jackal Girl, what do you propose now? :)
Good luck on your mission.
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Envelopes are easily manipulated by EITHER side!
Jackalgirl is an Open Minded Skeptic, and that is indeed refreshing :)
 
Biscuit said:
My thoughts about the Faraday cage is that this is making your protocol extremely complicated and may be one of the reasons you are having trouble coming up with an actual, testable, protocol.

JREF and yourself can easily come up with controls to prevent any cheating regarding envelopes. Is your only objection to this that you are afraid you will use your knowledge of performance magic to cheat?

Are you planning on coming up with your own protocol or working off one of the several that has been proposed?

As you say you contacted the ghosts of a dead boy and his mother in broad daylight in mid september then why not be more flexible with your own timeline?

The only reason I can see for midnight on halloween is that you intend to contact the Devil himself as that is the only story surrounding the devil's chair. Is this true?

As several others have asked to you intend to do this at midnight Oct 30, midnight Oct 31, or noon Oct 31?
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You need to do more research into my claim and quit assuming things that are not true .I get tired of repeating myself and I will no longer do so.
As a critical thinker, please read everything and attempt to understand it before you join in. I know you are trying to help, and I appreciate that.

Would puting the tape recorders in envelopes help you?
See what I mean?
 
The Professor said:
Are you an idiot?
I've never said the test could be done on any other day!
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You have never explained why it must be done on halloween. When asked previously, you just responded with something about Houdini having picked that date. But so far you have not claimed to be contacting Houdini. (Yes, I and many others do know about Houdini's statements about contacting him on holloween after his death.)

Given that you have stated that you have had paranormal experiences in the devil's chair on other days, profwags conclusion, given the very limited information you have provided, is not unreasonable.

To suggest that he his an idiot says a few things about you, however.
 
The Professor said:
What's to stop the JREF from gaffing the envelopes?
What's good for the Goose is Good for the Gander.
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Pretty simple to solve, really. The envelope is examined, you sign the inside. they are taken away, filled with the random numbers, as was proposed, sealed, sealed again with wax & a impression seal. the envelope is then placed in a locked 5.56 ammo can (which you may have examined prior & signed or marked the inside, to verify that it is the same can) & given to a neutral 3rd party (who has never seen the contents of the envelope, or the can for that matter) just before the beginning of the test. after you announce the numbers & they are recorded, the neutral party unlocks the ammo can, verifies the seal is in place, opens the envelope verifies you signature inside the envelope & then shows the random number sheet. pretty simple overall.
 
Ravenwood said:
Pretty simple to solve, really. The envelope is examined, you sign the inside. they are taken away, filled with the random numbers, as was proposed, sealed, sealed again with wax & a impression seal. the envelope is then placed in a locked 5.56 ammo can (which you may have examined prior & signed or marked the inside, to verify that it is the same can) & given to a neutral 3rd party (who has never seen the contents of the envelope, or the can for that matter) just before the beginning of the test. after you announce the numbers & they are recorded, the neutral party unlocks the ammo can, verifies the seal is in place, opens the envelope verifies you signature inside the envelope & then shows the random number sheet. pretty simple overall.
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It's also pretty standard to videotape everything in the MDC, from multiple angles if necessary. That way, one can review the tapes to see if anyone monkeyed with anything. We'd only be worried about people messing with the envelopes AFTER they've been prepared and changing the contents after the "spirits" have made their determination of what's inside, of course, because presumably they can see into the envelopes and see whatever's in there, yes?

But that brings me back to my original question: Dave, are you now saying that the "spirit" CAN see into sealed envelopes? Again, if you have not determined that this is possible, discussions of whether envelopes would work and how someone would cheat using envelopes is off-topic.

What are you proposing for your actual protocol? How did RoboTimbo's suggestion sound?
 
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Have you ,The Professor,ever exhibited paranormal abilities,and do you have any proof?
 
Here is the last email from jeffWagg for those interested and are honestly trying to assist in the protocol negotiations.
The "Snarkies" need not read it. It will do you no good.

Yes, I had to tend to other things. Sorry for the delay.

This is an acceptable claim, and now we have to work on the protocol. At this point, I need you to submit a protocol which will eliminate the possibility of cheating or misinterpreting the results.

On the forum, you have indicated that you are now trying for October 31, 2009. You've also said that you've made contact during the day on dates other than October 31. To simplify things greatly, I think it would be wise to eliminate your date requirement. It would also allow us to test you much sooner.


Thank you,

Jeff Wagg
JREF

Thanks Jeff
The intensity of contact must be extremely strong. It can only be that strong on 10/31 (To the best of my knowledge) as I've mentioned several times before. Hope that helps.
 
The Professor said:
Are you an idiot?
I've never said the test could be done on any other day!
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Why yes, I must be an idiot. I spent 25 years in the military, protecting your very freedom and right to call me an idiot, (ironic, huh?) But I digress.

To clarify my question to you. Rule 12 of the challenge states explicitly that you must produce at least one signed statement from an academic who has witnessed your powers or abilities. I can only assume you got this witnesses signature. Did this witness watch you show your ability last Oct 31st? No. As such, there is NO reason you can't show your paranormal ability on any other day. Yet you say you can only do this test on Oct 31st. Why the contradiction Dave?
 
EHocking said:
[quoteOriginally Posted by The Professor
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I sat on the Devil's Chair this afternoon in the Florida Sunshine. There was much more activity then usual. More noises, more insects, more wind and many more "Voices"......
There is One Thing that remains almost always the same .... NO PEOPLE!

Did you take any recording equipement?

This would have been a perfect opportunity for you to test that these "voices" are in fact recordable - something that, to date, you were not sure of and a rather important part of determining whether a protocol for recording such "voices" is viable.[/quote]
This post seems to have been ignored.

Furthermore, if you had recorded these "voices" you could then have supplied these recordings to JREF stating, "These are the sorts of sounds that will be recorded". JREF would then have had the opportunity to determine if the quality of the recorded voices was such that their presence on recording medium would or would not require subjective analyses, i.e. the result was self-evident.

If you had recorded this event, one from your previous posts you had quite some time to prepare for, you would have greatly aided the protocol negotiations with JREF for the MDC.

There would be no ambiguity, then, between yourself and JREF on what was likely to be the result of your demonstration for the MDC.

Why did you not take a tape recorder the other day?
What was the purpose of visiting the site, if not to see if "voices" would manifest?
Will you be visiting the site again for this purpose before sitting the MDC and will you be taking recording equipment. If not, why not (to both questions).
 
The Professor said:
You need to do more research into my claim and quit assuming things that are not true .I get tired of repeating myself and I will no longer do so.
As a critical thinker, please read everything and attempt to understand it before you join in. I know you are trying to help, and I appreciate that.

Would puting the tape recorders in envelopes help you?
See what I mean?
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As a claimant, you should be working on a protocol. Don't make me start counting down to shenanigans again.
 
Well this looks fun, I'll try.

TP, look at the top of the screen. It's the "$1 Million Paranormal Challenge".

Not the "$1 Million I think this is rigged so I'll apply Challenge".

Even if you were to find a way to trick them into thinking you have paranormal abilities and win the million, I'm pretty sure that would be in breach of the contract/agreement you'll sign. Therefore, YOU can't win it if YOU don't have paranormal abilities.

And that is why everyone thinks this is just a publicity stunt for yourself. But you can prove us wrong...do you honestly think or know that you have a paranormal (no tricks or magic) ability?
 
The Professor said:
.I get tired of repeating myself
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I do not believe that statement. As evidenced by the length of this thread I suspect that you actually enjoy responding.

My non-paranormal abilities allow me to know that you will never arrive at a protocol thus allowing you to never have to take the test.

From a lurker who has read the thread you come off as childish, immature and unwilling to put your so called abilities to a proper test.

Bowing out gracefully would be the proper and mature thing to do at this point. I suspect you won't.
 
The Professor said:
The intensity of contact must be extremely strong. It can only be that strong on 10/31 (To the best of my knowledge) as I've mentioned several times before. Hope that helps.
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Since the test is now tentatively going to run on October 31 2009, you have the perfect opportunity to do a "dry run" on October 31 2008 without worrying about whether all the i's are dotted and t's crossed. Take whatever recording equipment you have--a cheap tape recorder and video camera can be had for less than $500--recite your incantation, and see what the spirits do. This should greatly simplify protocol negotiations, and will avoid the disappointment of going through the major time and expense of developing a protocol, only to discover that the spirits do not wish to be recorded!
 
Profwag said:
Why yes, I must be an idiot. I spent 25 years in the military, protecting your very freedom and right to call me an idiot, (ironic, huh?) But I digress.

To clarify my question to you. Rule 12 of the challenge states explicitly that you must produce at least one signed statement from an academic who has witnessed your powers or abilities. I can only assume you got this witnesses signature. Did this witness watch you show your ability last Oct 31st? No. As such, there is NO reason you can't show your paranormal ability on any other day. Yet you say you can only do this test on Oct 31st. Why the contradiction Dave?
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Thanks for your information. I guess I was the guy "Paying" for you to be in the military then! Much like I'm paying the poor kids getting shot up in Iraq right now too. Makes us all idiots! But I too digress.

I have met all the desired demands of the JREF in this manner and I will waste no time going over and ever and ever all this OLD NEWS.
If you'd like to help, GREAT ... If not, then just join the "SNARKIES".
Thanks
Dave
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Doubt said:
You have never explained why it must be done on halloween. When asked previously, you just responded with something about Houdini having picked that date. But so far you have not claimed to be contacting Houdini. (Yes, I and many others do know about Houdini's statements about contacting him on holloween after his death.)

Given that you have stated that you have had paranormal experiences in the devil's chair on other days, profwags conclusion, given the very limited information you have provided, is not unreasonable.

To suggest that he his an idiot says a few things about you, however.
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I was wrong! He's not an Idiot, he's just Ignorant of the facts, since he has not done his homework.
 
ZER0 said:
Well this looks fun, I'll try.

TP, look at the top of the screen. It's the "$1 Million Paranormal Challenge".

Not the "$1 Million I think this is rigged so I'll apply Challenge".

Even if you were to find a way to trick them into thinking you have paranormal abilities and win the million, I'm pretty sure that would be in breach of the contract/agreement you'll sign. Therefore, YOU can't win it if YOU don't have paranormal abilities.

And that is why everyone thinks this is just a publicity stunt for yourself. But you can prove us wrong...do you honestly think or know that you have a paranormal (no tricks or magic) ability?
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Look, a SNARKY with a new name :)
What brings you here?
You'd better look up Paranormal Event before you show your lack of study.
I wonder which SNARKY you are :)
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