Psychic Samurai applies for MDC...apparently...

[The Professor]

You have been given multiple possible explanations for voices appearing on tape, you simply refuse to acknowledge them and explain how you can show that the voices are anything but paranormal.

I will agree with you on this:




I will say this again:




Is there any reason that your paranormal voice entity needs a tape recorder to record it's voice on magnetic recording tape? If it's paranormal, it should just be able to make it be there.

Everyone except you is working hard on a claim and a protocol. Why is that?

The Professor, please respond to whether this is a workable claim and protocol or not, and if not, why not?

I appreciate all of your help and you are in line for the $25,000!
Here is the answer to your question. Not to fall into the trap set by the JREF I will speak in generalities, but you will understand.

It is stated that voices that appear need ENERGY to do so. It has been stated that wherever they are currently at (Maybe in CERN) they need energy to make changes on a magnetic tape in the same way YOU need energy to do the same. They record it on the tape, video or hard drive in the same way that YOU do and energy is needed to do that. The JREF trap is to get me to claim there are ghosts or whatever, and that is their OUT! So it is avoided.
The recording equipment must be turned on to do it's job. RECORD!

 

[Chris H]

Apologies if I've missed this earlier Mr Koenig, but is it correct that this event will take place on the evening of October 31st?

Chris

 

[yairhol]

Is there any reason that your paranormal voice entity needs a tape recorder to record it's voice on magnetic recording tape? If it's paranormal, it should just be able to make it be there.

not quite RoboTimbo.
TP does not need to know everything that this entity can do. He only needs one impossible way (that he chooses or knows that works) for a voice to be recorded on a magnetic tape.

In fact, I suggest TP drops anything that has to do with some kind of entity. That only makes things more complicated. Instead of using entity he should say that he has some power or control over energy using only his mind. He doesn't need to say how he controls this power, why he controls it, for which purposes or who gave him that power. It's all irrelevant. He should only specify one instance in which this power can be demonstrated and put that as his protocol, allowing the JREF to remove any possible trickery within TP's limits of controling that power.
What this means is that if TP decides that his powers can control a magnetic tape only when inside a recorder, then it may be so that there could be no acceptable test to check this. The JREF may not be able to exclude all possible ways of trickery and will not accept the challenge. But still TP could say that his powers work only when using a recorder. That is his claim. And we're at a dead end.

 

[eirik]

If someone is asked to explain every aspect of a Paranormal Event the JREF knows that would be impossible. (Since they will continue to ask questions until the time limit is over)

No, the JREF does not claim to "know" that paranormal events are impossible. That is their thesis(my understanding), and it's been holding up for at least 40 years now.

And you are short of a claim. Why don't you concentrate on that, instead of whimpering about the rules you should be familiar with prior to your application?(also rethorical)

A person may not know every aspect of HOW a car works, Spark plugs, fuel injections, transmission gear ratio's or even the pressure of the tires from model to model.

In the same way the JREF wants me to TRY to explain WHY and Paranormal Event has occurred.

The interesting aspect of a car in this analogy is that it moves forward, much like the opposite of your application.

If an Event has occurred that is NOT SCIENTIFICALLY EXPLAINABLE .... I win!
"That simple!" Just like Randi said.

No, you insisting on it doesn't make it true. If You would actually READ the rules, it would save you the embarrasment of constantly being corrected. A lot of things are not scientifically explainable. That doesn't mean that they are paranormal. One could mention all sorts of deceases that are not explainable, e.g. many types of cancer. Cancer is not going to win you money.

Jeff will explain this tomorrow morning.

Jeff, I predicted precisely how TP's "application" would progress months ago, and I can prove it. Any chance this is worth a million dollars?

I think you at least deserve the psychic of the month-coffe mug!

eirik

 

[jenski]

LMAO ... Isn't that what you guy's have already done!
Why spill the beans now?

Professor. You reminded me not to ignore the option of the test next year. I did ask you rather specifically if you were going to skip the test this year and do it next year.

Please return the courtesy and not ignore my question. Thanks ever so.

 

[Mojo]

A Paranormal Event!

Please explain precisely what this "paranormal event" will be, and how you propose to demonstrate that it is indeed paranormal.

 

[Pogo]

Apparently the other shoe is dropping. Posted by Psychic Samurai (known here as The Professor) at the Magi Cafe:

"If the JREF squirms and denies my request for the million on one of their technicalities, I will take the discussion to the Internet Airwaves on Sunday night! All are invited!
My application does not expire until Halloween 2009 "

Pogo

 

[Azrael 5]

With such a big invocation as written out by Dave F Koenig-seems like a mighty spirit is being summoned.Thus I am guessing they could do something a bit more spectacular.Cause the earth to open up and belch fire? The skies to go black and it rain frogs?

Guerillamagic don't feel bad we all knew how it would pan out,but in the sense of fairness we have to give him a try(why I have no idea).

Im sure Demon and Ghost show or whatever its called, will be thrilled this Sunday when he declares the JREF refused to test him blah blahblah.All 5 listeners can whoop with joy.

I say forget TP,he has a friend who can predict snow in Florida,seems a much simpler claim,get her to apply.

Since i last logged on TP has made 4 posts and still hasn't stated his claim! No-one can say he is serious,come tomorrow time's up!
But "the DVD's are on the way" apparently.

I haven't looked forward to a Friday so much in a long time.
It's true

 

[Loss Leader]

Please let me know HOW you've seen my Security Faraday Cage or it's design?

Are you stating that the recording equipment should be placed in a Faraday Cage of your own design?

 

[jimtron]

If someone is asked to explain every aspect of a Paranormal Event the JREF knows that would be impossible. (Since they will continue to ask questions until the time limit is over)

A person may not know every aspect of HOW a car works, Spark plugs, fuel injections, transmission gear ratio's or even the pressure of the tires from model to model.

In the same way the JREF wants me to TRY to explain WHY and Paranormal Event has occurred.
That's NOT MY JOB!

If an Event has occurred that is NOT SCIENTIFICALLY EXPLAINABLE .... I win!
"That simple!" Just like Randi said.

Questions like WHO IS THE GHOST, AND WHERE DOES HE COME FROM etc have no relevance here.
They are just clouding the issue. A Paranormal Event!

Surely by now you know by now that you must describe what your claim is, and how it will demonstrate the paranormal in a self-evident way. This is clearly spelled out in the rules. Why are you wasting everyone's time?

 

[jmercer]

You said -regarding Faraday cages:

(The same design used in the security market to protect information on Government and Big Business Computers)

Gee ... Your an expert AND Clairvoyant?
How do you have ANY IDEA what designs I have.
Please let me know HOW you've seen my Security Faraday Cage or it's design?
If you can't then you are blowing smoke!

The government and big business do not use Faraday Cages to protect their systems. You stated they do, and that's incorrect.

 

[The Professor]

Professor. You reminded me not to ignore the option of the test next year. I did ask you rather specifically if you were going to skip the test this year and do it next year.

Please return the courtesy and not ignore my question. Thanks ever so.

I am NOT ignoring your question. If the JREF Red tape is such that they refuse to test me this year then OF COURSE I will continue with the challenge for 2009.

Is that plain enough?

I will also offer $25,000 to those who honestly want to help me win.

I've just heard the Million no longer exists!
Is it still the Million Dollar Challenge if this is true?

 

[The Professor]

You said -regarding Faraday cages:




The government and big business do not use Faraday Cages to protect their systems. You stated they do, and that's incorrect.

In fact, the US government and others use Entire Rooms that are designed as a Giant Faraday Cage. Many of our Embassies in other countries have used this technology for YEARS!

But perhaps you know more, and such information would be helpful. If you'd be so kind to assist I have $25,000 earmarked from the winnings for just such help.

Please prove that the JREF won't ignore your expertise.

 

[The Professor]

Are you stating that the recording equipment should be placed in a Faraday Cage of your own design?

Perhaps Jmercer could design one. He's the expert.
I would consider that.

 

[RoboTimbo]

I appreciate all of your help and you are in line for the $25,000!

Thanks for the offer, it won't be accepted.

Here is the answer to your question. Not to fall into the trap set by the JREF I will speak in generalities, but you will understand.

It is stated that voices that appear need ENERGY to do so. It has been stated that wherever they are currently at (Maybe in CERN) they need energy to make changes on a magnetic tape in the same way YOU need energy to do the same. They record it on the tape, video or hard drive in the same way that YOU do and energy is needed to do that. The JREF trap is to get me to claim there are ghosts or whatever, and that is their OUT! So it is avoided.
The recording equipment must be turned on to do it's job. RECORD!

Yes, I do understand that voices need ENERGY to appear. Unfortunately, it's human energy.

They record it on the tape, video or hard drive in the same way that YOU do.

Ah, good. You already knew it then.

The JREF trap is to get me to claim there are ghosts or whatever, and that is their OUT! So it is avoided.

Jeff wants you to state your claim. I suggested a claim that makes no mention of ghosts.

I suggest for a claim:

"I, The David Professor Slim Koenig King, et al , can make a voice appear on a magnetic tape, while said tape is sealed in a box."

Start there.

 

[rwguinn]

You said -regarding Faraday cages:




The government and big business do not use Faraday Cages to protect their systems. You stated they do, and that's incorrect.

erm...
Actually, there are a couple of vaults in places I know where TS work goes on which are, indeed, Faraday Cages, even, yea, unto the douple doors. The computers inside are not connected to anything outside, except power supply, through numerous filters....

The biggest problem here is everybody offering suggestions on HOW it can be done. AS I read the challenge, it don't make a damn HOW you do it--it is THAT you do it.
If everybody, including (rather, especially) The Professor would simply concern themselves with WHAT HE CAN DO, we could get this thing off the dime.
Unfortunately, The Professor does not seem to know, himself, WHAT he can do...

 

[RoboTimbo]

not quite RoboTimbo.
TP does not need to know everything that this entity can do. He only needs one impossible way (that he chooses or knows that works) for a voice to be recorded on a magnetic tape.

I agree with you. I was just trying to move things along. Since the integrity of a machine can't be guaranteed, I was giving him a chance to eliminate it. Due diligence and all that.

 

[jmercer]

In fact, the US government and others use Entire Rooms that are designed as a Giant Faraday Cage. Many of our Embassies in other countries have used this technology for YEARS!

But perhaps you know more, and such information would be helpful. If you'd be so kind to assist I have $25,000 earmarked from the winnings for just such help.

Please prove that the JREF won't ignore your expertise.

There are much easier and less elaborate methods of shielding available, and there are plenty of people here who can do a better job of designing it than I>

Perhaps Jmercer could design one. He's the expert.
I would consider that.

Thanks, but I'm not interested.

erm...
Actually, there are a couple of vaults in places I know where TS work goes on which are, indeed, Faraday Cages, even, yea, unto the douple doors. The computers inside are not connected to anything outside, except power supply, through numerous filters....

*nods* There are some legacy environments out there using it, but there are less costly and more certain alternatives in use today. I should have clarified that when I posted, but I was hasty. My bad.

 

[The Professor]

Apparently the other shoe is dropping. Posted by Psychic Samurai (known here as The Professor) at the Magi Cafe:

"If the JREF squirms and denies my request for the million on one of their technicalities, I will take the discussion to the Internet Airwaves on Sunday night! All are invited!
My application does not expire until Halloween 2009 "

Pogo

I see you are attempting to derail this thread and provide a rabbit to chase, but it has NEVER been a problem for me to speak on radio shows. IT'S WHAT I DO!
EVERYONE is invited to call in and enjoy the Entertainment. I will perform as a Mentalist, providing Mental Illusions and I will make a REAL Paranormal Prediction.
Many listeners would like to know how my Application is progressing.
I will read the newest version of the hoop jumping claim and they will make up their minds.
The majority have supported me in that this is an Obvious Paranormal Claim since it is NOT Scientifically Explainable.
Please listen in!

Now back to the Challenge!

I will read my Invocation on the Devils Chair on 10/31 and recording equipment placed in a soundproof, farady cage type device that truly eliminates any type of interference known to mankind will be recording.
Because of this Invocation, recited by myself alone in this location, the previously blank tape will exhibit electronic anomalies that are NOT SCIENTIFICALLY EXPLAINABLE.
Since these "voices" can not be explained, by definition, the event will be Paranormal.

HOW'S THAT?

 

[Pantaz]

If the JREF Red tape is such that they refuse to test me this year then OF COURSE I will continue with the challenge for 2009.

At this point, you have still failed to offer a TESTABLE CLAIM.

I will also offer $25,000 to those who honestly want to help me win.

Offering bribes now, eh?

I've just heard the Million no longer exists!

Care to share the source of that information, or any supporting evidence?