AA77 FDR Data, Explained

[funk de fino]

Funk, I gave you an answer. It's not running. If you don't like, have the NTSB go through the data again and extract parameters that UT was able to.

No, sorry, you are running. The report states that data was not recorded you cannot explain it without inserting your foot in your mouth and contradicting many claims you have made in this thread. You are now very close to accusing the NTSB of being complicit in a cover up.

There is only one coward here and it is you. You cannot even give me a name from the pft core members with more FDR experience than me. You are running away from questions that are relevant and the lurkers can see it (if they have not already got sick fed up of your pathetic performance in this thread that is)

I'm getting pretty tired of these games some of you are playing. I'm not answering anyone unless it's FDR related. I'm sure the mods will appreciate this as well.

You are the one playing games with your "on the phone" rubbish. Keep running from our "awkward" questions TF.

 

[Turbofan]

When I look up Funk de Fino on FAA.gov, it comes back with, "some kid on JREF
without a name".

Try that with members of PFT


I'm off to go running now. Running with the Devil...saw them in concert
with Roth a few months ago and Eddie's kid. Not too bad.

So, I'm off before I make the lurkers sick. Have a nice night FdF.

 

[jhunter1163]

Turbo and other CTers don't seem to get that even if the FDR was found only to contain a 30-minute video of Chuck Norris kicking people, it still wouldn't prove that AA77 missed the Pentagon. I'm sure if Chuck Norris himself had been the actual Flight Data Recorder...there would be no missing data. But we're dealing with electronics, here, which can occasionally fail (regardless of what their spec says), especially when they are damaged.

At night, the boogeyman checks his closet for Chuck Norris.

[/derail]

 

[X]

When I look up Funk de Fino on FAA.gov, it comes back with, "some kid on JREF
without a name".

Try that with members of PFT

Says a person posting on JREF under a psuedonym.

Turbofan: Stop attacking people's arguments by pointing out that they post under handles that are not their real name.

1) It doesn't address the point made.
2) It applies to you as well as the rest of us.​

 

[jaydeehess]

OK.


I don't agree. If the transient has enough potential to flip a bit (tri-stated),
it sure as hell can travel a few microns ...

Keep trying.

Wow, that's it? That is all you have to say on the matter?

You have willfully ignored most of what I said, most of what Mackey posted, Most of what Beachnut posted, and most of what many others posted.

Have fun in your night out and when you come back please do let us know where you are posting questions on electronics forums.

If you have yet to do so here's a suggestion;

"I have a question about the EEPROM data storage used in flight data recorders. I have been reading about the FDR found in the Pentagon after the crash there on Sept 11/01, and that it seems to be missing the last several seconds of data. That would represent several full frames of data. If the FDR was working properly right up to impact then how can more than just the last word in the last frame be lost? After all, the previous words would have already been recorded and set.

I know that transients can corrupt an EEPROM and obviously the power down procedure was not carried out but how could that explain a loss of up to 6 seconds without completely corrupting everything?"

 

[Turbofan]

OK students, what is the voltage across R1, R2, R3 if VCC is 50 VDC?

Question #2: We'll pretend these resistors are transistors. What is the
voltage across R1 and R3 if R2 is:

a. partially open
b. open
c. partially shorted
d. shorted

 

[TexasJack]

[qimg]http://procision-auto.com/911/current.gif[/qimg]

OK students, what is the voltage across R1, R2, R3 if VCC is 50 VDC?

Question #2: We'll pretend these resistors are transistors. What is the
voltage across R1 and R3 if R2 is:

a. partially open
b. open
c. partially shorted
d. shorted

You don't know? How sad.

 

[Caustic Logic]

[qimg]http://procision-auto.com/911/current.gif[/qimg]

OK students,

Why are you presenting this here? We already understand you think you're smarter than everyone else combined, you need some backup now. You shouldn't post in this thread until you clear up at least the one point you've been called on.

 

[Jonnyclueless]

When I look up Funk de Fino on FAA.gov, it comes back with, "some kid on JREF
without a name".

Try that with members of PFT


I'm off to go running now. Running with the Devil...saw them in concert
with Roth a few months ago and Eddie's kid. Not too bad.

So, I'm off before I make the lurkers sick. Have a nice night FdF.

Yeah it comes up with "A bunch of crackpots, most of home have no experience. None who are experts in FDRs. When one looks up turbofan, it doesn't show any name anywhere.

Do you still not get how funny everyone here finds it that you run around accusing people of hiding, while making the claim from an anonymous name to hide your identity? And a reminder so you don't keep repeating the same nonsense response, we could really careless who you are or what your name is. That's not the point.

But looking up the references of the members of PFT is why the group isn't taken seriously by anyone. I mean seriously. Who is listening to PFT besides conspiracy theorists? Where are the press releases? Where are the reports from real media outlets publishing the findings of these experts (your description of them, not mine)?

You might as well be saying Alphalpha and our gang are legit. Funny stuff.

 

[LashL]

As an engineer or tech? Operating equipment or racking and runing wafers.
Was your job in designing or manufacturing?

Since Turbofan didn't answer you...

He's not an engineer but a tech (not that there's anything wrong with that).

From his website:

Credentials:
- Field Service with Electronics and Mechanical Experience since 1994
- Electronics Engineering Technician Diploma (1993-1995)
- Proprietor of Fix-a-Tech Electronics & Stereo Installations (1993-1998)
- GCI Automotive Mechanics Program (1991-1993)
- Schilling Performance (Summer Help 1999-2003)

 

[Turbofan]

You don't know? How sad.

Actually, I do know the answer. This question is for Jaydee, unless you'd
like to take a stab?

FYI: One of them is a little tricky.

Who's listening to JREF? People who believe your stories. So what's your point?

I never claimed I was an expert; I'm not an engineer or scientist and that's
no secret. I simply support experts and professionals based on my own
assessment of the data. I'm willing to give my name to stand behind my
posts as long as Anti and Mackey go live with me and PFT.

You don't like my group of experts. I don't like yours. The difference is
mine don't hide behind the computer taking stabs. They are calling your
'pros' out. Even I can see through their BS and I'm willing to debate them!
I guess I have something going for me huh? Nobody here knows my background...
so be careful. It might bite you in the butt during a live debate.

You might as well be saying Alphalpha and our gang are legit.

I never thought of you guys as "Alphalpha and the gang". Thanks for the
suggestion.

P.S. Finally somone had the smarts to look up my site!

 

[beachnut]

The dumbest question I have seen yet.


I wonder why V=IR? Do you alway give the answers away, or is this what you need to undertand circuits?

 

[Turbofan]

Well gee Mr. Beachnut! Everyone keeps saying this stuff is so simple, but
they can't get it right on the EEPROM stuff! Why would you say that is?
Biased? Confused?

 

[beachnut]

Well gee Mr. Beachnut! Everyone keeps saying this stuff is so simple, but
they can't get it right on the EEPROM stuff! Why would you say that is?
Biased? Confused?

Because they are laughing to hard to respond?
So far you have not risen to level to warrant comment form anyone, Mackey is being polite and civil; I can learn much from him. I would have flunked you out of class already.

Your posts border on ridiculous and at a primitive level. Your lack of understanding and your inability to be open are hallmarks of your p4t false information cult implying lies for other to repeat as lies.

So where did you post the stuff, what EE forums have you hit?


What resolution is DME stored at in the FDR?

 

[WildCat]

I'm not an engineer or scientist and that's
no secret.

No kidding!

You don't like my group of experts.

What FDR experts do you have? Oh, that's right, you don't have any. Just a bunch of wannabes and crackpots.

I don't like yours. The difference is
mine don't hide behind the computer taking stabs. They are calling your
'pros' out.

BS. The PfffT has refused to get actual FDR experts to corroborate their findings, and we all know why.

Nobody here knows my background...
so be careful. It might bite you in the butt during a live debate.

Nobody gives a damn abouit a live debate. You have failed miserably in the much superior format of written debate.

 

[beachnut]

I simply support experts and professionals based on my own assessment of the data.

You support 11.2 G failed physics experts and professionals who are terrorist apologist, the terrorist do not want. How can you let 11.2 G stayed posted for over 6 months. Funny, the new G work was debunked 6 months ago formally with Mackey, and informally with estimates by dozens of people; even using the "one dimensional" car stopping model which your can use to estimate the Gs of a plane. This is due to your experts and professionals have no clue on math, or how to use the car model to estimate G. Those pesky initial condition probably stumped Balsamo.

Then you tell me your experts will show me! Then your experts take 11.2 G and try to match it with circular motion equations and post the dumbest thing I have seen, 10.14 G. You know if Balsamo had slipped, he could have had exactly 11.2 G again! I used a big circle that goes through a 401 MSL target and hits the Pentagon and posts with a 27,320 foot radius, and got 1.6877 Gs. Something you can actually fly. You see, you can't fly the 34G or 10.14 G! So Balsamo is still math challenged, he used a formula, poorly.

You experts messed up the time stamps!
Your experts let Balsamo use 1.5 DME as a hard value when it is off as much as 3000 feet.
Your experts are not experts on 9/11 issues, they are biased terrorist loyalist, not wanted by the terrorist who take credit for 9/11 solely and truthfully. Truthful terrorist, false truthers.

So when are you going to post some more humor with the EEPROM stuff?

What was the resolution DME is stored at in the FDR? Too bad DME accuracy is closer to a half mile than the test equipment grounds station 0.1 NM. That ruins Balsamo's plans.

Based on the FDR INS information, why does Balsamo falsely say the INS crashed when it is operating perfectly?

Why was the 500 millisecond specification placed in the new regulations after the introduction of the first SSFDR systems? Experts? Professionals?

 

[Turbofan]

The reason this thread is 65+ pages is because the two of you seem to
cut and paste the same reply over and over again.

Do you need attention? You're not getting it from me. Your questions
have already been addressed and data proven invalid for your theory.

 

[WildCat]

Do you need attention? You're not getting it from me. Your questions
have already been addressed and data proven invalid for your theory.

Denial, the last refuge...

 

[Myriad]

Good lord, is that the kind of circuit you work with, Turbofan? A 750-Watt electric heater? Running off 50VDC?

Answer 2d depends on which melts first, R2 or the power supply. Why are you using expensive 250W power transistors as heating elements? What do any of these junior high DC idealizations have to do with effects of transients on real microcircuits?

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[Jonnyclueless]

And the next piece of evidence to prove 9/11 was an inside job will be an air conditioning repair question/test.