Barry Jennings, dead at 53

Wait, wait, wait...

So twoofers are now trying to pretend that a dead man saw bodies when the man said he did not?

And they're treating his death as an assassination against the TM even though he ripped on them?

This is WAY beyond pathetic.
 
beijingyank said:
Barry was being threatened. His job, his pension, was definitely threatened. You can read between his words and suspect his family was also in the mix. One thing is for certain, he was afraid and asked Bermas and Dylan to put a hold on his interview.
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You know what the beauty of posts like yours is? It's so gosh-darned easy for people like me to call it total BS.

Where did you get the idea he was being threatened? I bet I know... http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2008/09/379674.shtml

A quick Google search seems to indicate that this is the origin of your claim. Funny how that claim doesn't seem to have a source of it's own.

ETA: I see, beijingyank, that you seem to be putting words in the man's mouth. Can you source that quote?
 
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CHF said:
Wait, wait, wait...

So twoofers are now trying to pretend that a dead man saw bodies when the man said he did not?

And they're treating his death as an assassination against the TM even though he ripped on them?

This is WAY beyond pathetic.
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Truthers are nothing more than scavengers now.
 
I have yet to hear how the presence of bodies, if true, proves any of the conspiracy theories are correct.
 
beijingyank said:
Barry was a Patriot. He was also a "Truther."
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Barry Jennings was not a "Truther". He did an interview with Avery and Bermas, then had them pull it from LCFC when they misrepresented what he said... then they released it and used the hell out of it after he appeared on a BBC programme. His interview for the BBC Conspiracy Files: The Third Tower programme was not pro-truther, he never appeared at one of the truther rallies... Avery and Bermas chopped up his interview for all it was worth and put it their fact-free pseudodocumentaries, Alex Jones misrepresented what he said to shill his products and that's the extent of Barry's interaction with teh twoof.
 
Travis said:
I have yet to hear how the presence of bodies, if true, proves any of the conspiracy theories are correct.
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I think it has something to do with WTC7 not being treated like a crime scene, since no one died in the building. I'm willing to bet that the truthers see Mr. Jennings' statement as evidence that there were deaths in WTC7; therefore, the government allegedly lied so that no real investigation of the debris would be carried out, so that no one would find evidence of the explosives allegedly used.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
I think it has something to do with WTC7 not being treated like a crime scene, since no one died in the building. I'm willing to bet that the truthers see Mr. Jennings' statement as evidence that there were deaths in WTC7; therefore, the government allegedly lied so that no real investigation of the debris would be carried out, so that no one would find evidence of the explosives allegedly used.
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Except that there was a pretty intensive investigation into the whole WTC site, not just the twins, and that investigation found no inside job evidence. Of course Truthers aren't going to acknowledge that.
 
I'm not sure if this has been discussed here, but there's a couple of things that has bothered me about the this Jennings interview topic. I mean no disrespect to the man and am not accusing him of lying, especially now that he's passed, but I believe there are certain aspects of his account that may be a tad exaggerated. Mr. Jennings said he's an "Old boiler guy", well I'm a not so old building guy with doubts.

To me, the first red flag raised was his account of the 6th floor explosion. Not that he didn't hear what he thought was an explosion. The problem I have with that is this collapse of the landing he and his college are standing on. He's in total darkness, been thrown by an explosion, the landing has collapsed and he's saved by what? A "pole"? What pole? What purpose did this pole serve before it saved him from falling? The reason I question this is because I've worked in high-rise office buildings for over twenty years, I've been down several building's stairways hundreds of times and I've never, not once, observed anything thing that could be described as a pole installed in a stairway. Maybe building codes are different in NYC.

Mr. Jennings claims that he and his college used this pole to climb back to, presumably to an intact portion of stairs (I' don't know, he doesn't make that clear) the 8th floor. Again, I mean no disrespect, but a man of Mr. Jennings size would likely have trouble climbing out of bed, let alone pulling himself to safety up a pole.

The phrase "I'm an old boiler guy" which he used to dismiss the possibility that a fuel tank may have exploded. How does experience with boilers make you an expert on the difference between a boiler and a fuel tank explosion? If in fact he did experience both types of explosions then I stand corrected.

Lastly, his first interview. This was conducted on the afternoon that he was rescued. For somebody who has been in an explosion, climbed to safety, brought through a destroyed lobby and exited through a hole in the wall and then crawled through the debris, he looks quite dapper. Jacket slightly dusty, shirt still tucked, not a sign of the wear and tear that one would expect to see on somebody who has just been through hell and back. I've had suit coats rip from just simply reaching for something on high shelf. Maybe he has a better tailor.

It's these things that I question which give me doubt about his story as whole. If he were to exaggerate these claims, then I have to question the "presence" of dead bodies as well.
 
eromitlab said:
Barry Jennings was not a "Truther". He did an interview with Avery and Bermas, then had them pull it from LCFC when they misrepresented what he said... then they released it and used the hell out of it after he appeared on a BBC programme. His interview for the BBC Conspiracy Files: The Third Tower programme was not pro-truther, he never appeared at one of the truther rallies... Avery and Bermas chopped up his interview for all it was worth and put it their fact-free pseudodocumentaries, Alex Jones misrepresented what he said to shill his products and that's the extent of Barry's interaction with teh twoof.
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Another BIG LIE spoken as if it was truth carved in stone.

MM
 
AJM8125 said:
I'm not sure if this has been discussed here, but there's a couple of things that has bothered me about the this Jennings interview topic. I mean no disrespect to the man and am not accusing him of lying, especially now that he's passed, but I believe there are certain aspects of his account that may be a tad exaggerated. Mr. Jennings said he's an "Old boiler guy", well I'm a not so old building guy with doubts.

To me, the first red flag raised was his account of the 6th floor explosion. Not that he didn't hear what he thought was an explosion. The problem I have with that is this collapse of the landing he and his college are standing on. He's in total darkness, been thrown by an explosion, the landing has collapsed and he's saved by what? A "pole"? What pole? What purpose did this pole serve before it saved him from falling? The reason I question this is because I've worked in high-rise office buildings for over twenty years, I've been down several building's stairways hundreds of times and I've never, not once, observed anything thing that could be described as a pole installed in a stairway. Maybe building codes are different in NYC.

Mr. Jennings claims that he and his college used this pole to climb back to, presumably to an intact portion of stairs (I' don't know, he doesn't make that clear) the 8th floor. Again, I mean no disrespect, but a man of Mr. Jennings size would likely have trouble climbing out of bed, let alone pulling himself to safety up a pole.

The phrase "I'm an old boiler guy" which he used to dismiss the possibility that a fuel tank may have exploded. How does experience with boilers make you an expert on the difference between a boiler and a fuel tank explosion? If in fact he did experience both types of explosions then I stand corrected.

Lastly, his first interview. This was conducted on the afternoon that he was rescued. For somebody who has been in an explosion, climbed to safety, brought through a destroyed lobby and exited through a hole in the wall and then crawled through the debris, he looks quite dapper. Jacket slightly dusty, shirt still tucked, not a sign of the wear and tear that one would expect to see on somebody who has just been through hell and back. I've had suit coats rip from just simply reaching for something on high shelf. Maybe he has a better tailor.

It's these things that I question which give me doubt about his story as whole. If he were to exaggerate these claims, then I have to question the "presence" of dead bodies as well.
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I think Jennings was referring to a vertical beam (pole) within the stairwell that saved him from falling when the explosion knocked the stairs out from under his feet. I have concluded the explosion happened at 9:03 and was caused by oil filled transformers that were near the stairwell. This would explain all of the black smoke he and Hess encountered. I am convinced the missile fired from one of the intercept fighters hit WTC 7 (south side) igniting the transformers.

Jennings reference to being an “old boiler guy” was part of the interview that was diced by the LC guys several months after 9/11. Here, Jennings was commenting on the collapse of WTC 7 and not the explosion he experienced. Before the WTC 7 report, one explanation for the collapse of WTC 7 was due to oil filled tanks that caught fire. Jennings is expressing skepticism on the collapse of WTC 7 due to fire when say he is an “ old boiler guy”, so in a sense he is being a bit of a Truther and leaning toward a CD explanation for WTC 7.
 
AJM8125 said:
"To me, the first red flag raised was his account of the 6th floor explosion. Not that he didn't hear what he thought was an explosion. The problem I have with that is this collapse of the landing he and his college are standing on. He's in total darkness, been thrown by an explosion, the landing has collapsed and he's saved by what? A "pole"? What pole? What purpose did this pole serve before it saved him from falling? The reason I question this is because I've worked in high-rise office buildings for over twenty years, I've been down several building's stairways hundreds of times and I've never, not once, observed anything thing that could be described as a pole installed in a stairway. Maybe building codes are different in NYC.
Mr. Jennings claims that he and his college used this pole to climb back to, presumably to an intact portion of stairs (I' don't know, he doesn't make that clear) the 8th floor. Again, I mean no disrespect, but a man of Mr. Jennings size would likely have trouble climbing out of bed, let alone pulling himself to safety up a pole."
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I suggest you read the Barry Jennings transcript.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=108750&t=451652

Barry Jennings said:
"...I'm thinking I'm standing on a landing..I'm actually holding on to a pole above us..."
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I can easily imagine a person referring to the common stairwell, round, pole-like handrails as a pole. Obviously there are no poles in stairwells.

pole: a long slender rounded piece of wood or metal.

Your unsubstantiated speculation that Barry Jenning's size, was such, that you believe it challenged his ability to get out of bed, can only be interpreted as disrespectful.

He appeared to be overweight, like many adults, but as the events of the day were to prove, he was in good enough shape to survive some very physically demanding events.

We have no idea exactly how tenuous Barry's predicament on the collapsed stairwell was
but I think that given the choice of pulling yourself to safety vs. falling to your death, most
46 year old men would get a good boost of adrenaline and find the strength required for such a brief effort.

AJM8125 said:
"Lastly, his first interview. This was conducted on the afternoon that he was rescued. For somebody who has been in an explosion, climbed to safety, brought through a destroyed lobby and exited through a hole in the wall and then crawled through the debris, he looks quite dapper. Jacket slightly dusty, shirt still tucked, not a sign of the wear and tear that one would expect to see on somebody who has just been through hell and back. I've had suit coats rip from just simply reaching for something on high shelf. Maybe he has a better tailor."
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Since the journey fundamentals of his story are not questioned by anyone, I find your incredulity based on the appearance of his clothes, in a video of moderate image quality, to be totally lacking in credibility.
AJM8125 said:
"It's these things that I question which give me doubt about his story as whole. If he were to exaggerate these claims, then I have to question the "presence" of dead bodies as well."
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Barry Jennings said:
"...And---we were stepping over people..and you know you can feel when your stepping over people...."
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It seems you require very little reason for dismissing the testimony of Barry Jennings.

MM
 
Miragememories said:
I can easily imagine a person referring to the common stairwell, round, pole-like handrails as a pole. Obviously there are no poles in stairwells.
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Argument from incredulity.

I work in a large office building, and we have poles in some of our stairwells.

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AJM8125 said:
The reason I question this is because I've worked in high-rise office buildings for over twenty years, I've been down several building's stairways hundreds of times and I've never, not once, observed anything thing that could be described as a pole installed in a stairway.
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I should clarify. We have some vertical sprinkler pipes in some of our stairwells which look just like poles. My building isn't the only one I've seen them in.
 
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nicepants said:
Argument from incredulity.

I work in a large office building, and we have poles in some of our stairwells.

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I should clarify. We have some vertical sprinkler pipes in some of our stairwells which look just like poles. My building isn't the only one I've seen them in.
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Yes, some buildings have stairs which are fitted with sprinklers, but I would expect an old boiler guy to know a pipe when he's holding on to one.

Off to work, see ya.
 
Yes barry looks neat and tidy after his ordeal in wtc7.



is infowars.com the only source of his death?
 
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