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"The 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact Or Fiction?" on the History Channel

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Anyone watch this? Aired yesterday for the 1st time, I dvr'd it and am just starting to watch it now. About 4 minutes in there's a short clip of Gravy debating a truther!

I just started watching it, it's narrated by Lester Holt, who used to be a local TV news anchorman here.
 
Oops! I just realized this was actually a year old, and I already saw it. :blush:

nvm
 
It's available to watch online also.

I've got to say Mr. Holt has a rather annoying voice.

Edit: Well, you brought it to one persons attention at least :)
 
I saw it, (I love Tivo..) anyway I watched it this morning.

I noticed something about it, besides Gravy debating a fool truther.

They showed a number of truther protests, events, speed dates whatever you want to call them and they mostly had large numbers of people there, they all wore matching T-Shirts, they chanted and made a lot of noise.

Where have they all gone?

Nothing new on youtube has more than 9 people there.

Maybe "Without a Trace" could do a two part episode on the missing truthers, the one case they never solve?
 
GregHouseMD said:
I noticed something about it, besides Gravy debating a fool truther.

They showed a number of truther protests, events, speed dates whatever you want to call them and they mostly had large numbers of people there, they all wore matching T-Shirts, they chanted and made a lot of noise.

Where have they all gone?
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Those were taken at the height of the truth movement, on the 5th annivesary of 9/11.

I think most of those people have since become aware of how suckered they were, and have since left.
 
Alex Jones is laughable.

Paraphrase: "A friend phoned me up and said a plane hit the WTC...I said the world is going to change" omg1111!

Dylan looks particularly comical on this, he keeps looking off camera and shuffling. I wonder if he sees his hopes of stardom going down the drain the more idiocy he spouts?
 
albion said:
....Dylan looks particularly comical on this, he keeps looking off camera and shuffling. I wonder if he sees his hopes of stardom going down the drain the more idiocy he spouts?
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Hopefully, those zits have dried up now from the extended warm glow of the California sun.
 
I'll have to see if it's re-airing soon. I watched it a couple of times when it first came out and AJ's minions were whining about how it was not only a hit piece, but it was vintage Hearst yellow journalism. (You only thought they stopped it in the 1890s.) It was great seeing the leading truthists entirely dismantled. The thing at the end with Alex comparing himself to Galileo and getting the facts completely wrong while drawing his comparison really ended the thing on a high note.
 
albion said:
Alex Jones is laughable.

Paraphrase: "A friend phoned me up and said a plane hit the WTC...I said the world is going to change" omg1111!
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That show is responsible for my favorite twoofer moment ever, simply because of the number of people reached, when Jones explained he was like Galileo trying to prove the world wasn't flat. :newlol
 
albion said:
Dylan looks particularly comical on this, he keeps looking off camera and shuffling. I wonder if he sees his hopes of stardom going down the drain the more idiocy he spouts?
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I was a slightly nerdy teen with bad skin, hell, I'm 40 friggin' years old and still have bad skin, but I've never been one of those bigger guys (6'2" ain't that big any more) who wanted to punch a zitty, nerdy douchbag ever until I watched Dylan on this show. It wasn't even about him being a zitty, nerdy douchebag... it was because of his blovating. Don't get me started on Alex Jones...

Back to the OP and some of the 9/11 related shows that are airing this week, I've been watching C-SPAN3's reruns of the 9/11 commission hearings and look forward to 102 Minutes on History tomorrow like I did 9/11 on CBS back in 2002 - with some trepidation and the knowledge that I'll be reduced to tears, but also that it will represent real history and not "Truth".
 
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Since when are the idiots, I mean editors, at Popular Mechanics considered "experts"? I'd like to see their credentials. That show is a piece of rubbish.
 
Sizzler said:
Since when are the idiots, I mean editors, at Popular Mechanics considered "experts"? I'd like to see their credentials. That show is a piece of rubbish.
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And your credentials are...? :rolleyes:
 
Jesus, Sizzler. Do you think maybe those 'idiots' perhaps gathered a crap-load of actual experts to comment on the subject?
 
Sizzler said:
None. I am just sick of seeing those two dolts speaking as if they have any expert opinion on the matter. They are freakin magazine editors.
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Except they cite actual experts, unlike the dolts who make up the truth movement. Who are the experts in the truth movement? We have Alex Jones, a paranoid talk show host, citing David Ray Griffin, a theology professor. The founders of the truth movement are anti-semite holocaust deniers. The biggest film in your whole movement was made by a college reject repeating the claims of a theology professor.

7 years later not a single paper by a truther "expert" has been published in a real journal.

It must really suck to be a truther, knowing there are no actual experts in anything relevant supporting them.
 
Drudgewire said:
They aren't experts, they're publishers.

Which is why they relied on over 300 experts and organizations rather than having one or two staff members do it all.
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Right, so why do I have to listen to them talking from a position of authority every time (well not every time) I see a TV documentary?

And, why is the welder/demolition (sounds like good credentials to me) guy not considered an expert but rather a conspiracy theorist.

These shows are glaringly unbalanced.
 
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