evidence against flight 93 shoot down

TC329 said:
somehow 100tons disappeared into an 8 foot deep hole and it didn't even displace the appropriate amount of dirt to accomodate it. weird, huh?
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What is the appropriate amount of dirt to be displaced? Can we see your calculations for this? Maybe you can get your CIT buddies to help with the math. Oh wait, nevermind.
 
leftysergeant said:
That is so utterly absurd as to almost not need commenting. Had the engine become detached while the palne was airborn, the enigne would hardly be expected to be found that near to the aircraft, especially not so nearly straight down range of the impact site, and it would hjave been severly damaged falling from any great height, or perhaps have dug yet another cxrater. The loss of an engine would have put the aircraft so out of trim that it could hardly have followed anything resembling a straight path. There would also have been further rather large bit of debris scattered about as well. The crash was, however, clearly a controlled flight into terrain.
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TC329's latest on where debris would have gone put me in mind of the 'Toon universe in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" That is, in the 'Toon universe, engines are perfectly capable of disobeying the laws of physics and falling straight down from an airplane moving at hundreds of mph. Or falling in any direction, as a matter of fact. Or the plane could land intact and make an exact cut-out shape in the ground.

And so on. 'Toon Universe, 'Truth Universe, c'est la same goddam thing.
 
Why is 9/11 Truth so bad at math? Why can't they produce calculations to support their claims of 100% absolute precise certainty, that the debris should have remained intact, should have remained entirely within the crater, and should have displaced more dirt?

Why are there no calculations? Do Truthers not know math?

Math <-----for all Truthers to read
 
TC329 said:
... fdr data is 100% bogus.
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A lie. Why do you make up lies?
TC329 said:
clearly there is nothing clearly indicating as proof it was a controlled flight into the terrain. more utter absurdity.
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The FDR proves you wrong, but, you lied and said it was fake.
Your fantasy and lies have no bounds. You do a terrible job interpreting witness statements. Do you do this on purpose or are you untrained?
 
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TC329 said:
after talking to wally miller and having him describe the crash as the fbi determined it to have happened based on the physical evidence it's safe to say the fdr data is 100% bogus.
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I find myself unable to parse this sentence. Could you elaborate on how the first clause relates to the second?

Or is what you mean that the FDR data contradicts your belief system and must therefore be rejected as fake? If so, that's circular reasoning.
 
TC329 said:
other than some scrap and part of an engine yes it is. it's 8 feet deep and there's no 757 there.

somehow 100tons disappeared into an 8 foot deep hole and it didn't even displace the appropriate amount of dirt to accomodate it. weird, huh?



oh yeah?

link them!
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Pathetic... you pander around and ask people to do the work for you when it takes a two minute google search to find what you're looking for.

Has anyone seen this Nigerian jetliner.

Video grab shows the crash site of the Nigerian airliner in Lissa, about 30 km (20 miles) north of Lagos, October 23, 2005. A Nigerian airliner with 117 people aboard was totally destroyed in a crash shortly after take-off from Lagos and there were no signs of survivors, the Nigerian Red Cross said on Sunday. Bellview Airlines flight 210 disintegrated on impact with swampy earth near Lissa, shortly after leaving for the Nigerian capital of Abuja on Saturday. The Boeing 737-200 was believed to be carrying some Nigerian officials as well as a U.S. consular official and some European passengers. NIGERIA OUT REUTERS/Nigerian Television Authority via Reuters TV
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They say it crashed but going by red's, and Turbo's logic there's not enough debris for there to have been a plane. They found surviving passenger articles in the wreckage too. Going by the conspiracy theorist logic it must have been planted!


OH! Let me guess. If I follow your very logic this Aeromexico crash site must have been faked. That's it!
There's not enough plane debris left to account for the damage!

It looks like you sleuths have quite a mystery uncovered! And they would have gotten away with it too! If it weren't for those meddling kids and that Scooby-doo!

This moronic circular logic needs to stop... it's really annoying to have to repeat answers to fatally flawed assumptions of people who assert what a plane crash should or should not have looked like on their own whim.

YOU'RE WELCOME
 
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Disbelief said:
What is the appropriate amount of dirt to be displaced? Can we see your calculations for this? Maybe you can get your CIT buddies to help with the math. Oh wait, nevermind.
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wouldn't you agree that at least 50tons to accomodate the 100tons being forced into it?
 
SDC said:
TC329's latest on where debris would have gone put me in mind of the 'Toon universe in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" That is, in the 'Toon universe, engines are perfectly capable of disobeying the laws of physics and falling straight down from an airplane moving at hundreds of mph. Or falling in any direction, as a matter of fact. Or the plane could land intact and make an exact cut-out shape in the ground.

And so on. 'Toon Universe, 'Truth Universe, c'est la same goddam thing.
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make things up sdc to protect your precious bushies.....

the engine continued to travel in the same direction the plane was. imagine that!!!

except it landed about 600 yards ahead of the plane in a pond. uh oh. that doesn't help the theory that terrorists crashed the plane in fear. oh my.
 
TC329 said:
make things up sdc to protect your precious bushies.....

the engine continued to travel in the same direction the plane was. imagine that!!!

except it landed about 600 yards ahead of the plane in a pond. uh oh. that doesn't help the theory that terrorists crashed the plane in fear. oh my.
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Source please.
 
TC329 said:
wrong like always.

paper debris and some plane debris was recovered 8 miles away in New Baltimore, PA.
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of course you provide a source of this claim?

the left engine was recovered in a pond 500-600 yards ahead of the crash site. it was fully intact. obviously seperated from the plane while the plane was airborne.
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fully intact? now you are simply exaggerating, because it was not fully intact. YOu can provide a source of this "fully intact" engine right?



my source is for the above information is wally miller.
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wally miller was only at the crash site, could you please provide a source where he saw a "fully" intact engine? be sure to provide pictures he took of this engine

too bad WAlly MIller doesn't believe in the crap of the 911 liar movement.
 
TC329 said:
well for starters according to all eyewitness reports this plane was nowhere near 31,000 feet agl so that causes a little problem for your "since this happened here then that must happen there" scenario........
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and eye witnesses can determine the height of a fast flying plane perfectly?
 
ktesibios said:
I find myself unable to parse this sentence. Could you elaborate on how the first clause relates to the second?

Or is what you mean that the FDR data contradicts your belief system and must therefore be rejected as fake? If so, that's circular reasoning.
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the physical damage to the trees is in a southwest heading.
the debris that exploded in that direction traveled in a southwest heading.
now i know some of you can do physics......

if 100tons traveling at hundreds of miles per hour explodes towards the southwest then physics indicates that it had to be coming from the northeast.

if it is coming from the northeast then this explains how debris ended up in indian lake and new baltimore [opposite direction of the blast trajectory] because it had to be created in the air and carried that way in the wind.

otherwise you perfectly in tact airplane that impacts flying southeast over the crash site crashing inverted which doesn't go with the physical evidence nor the eyewitness accounts which have the plane coming in with its wings vertical to the ground and not inverted out of the northeast. there is no debris trail going across the field in the direction of indian lake and new baltimore. there is no debris trail that goes from indian lake to new baltimore......

the heavier stuff came down in the lake and the lighter stuff came down in new baltimore. both rained down from the sky before the plane impacted.

the fdr does not support this.

therefor the fdr :

a) contradicts all the physical evidence
b) contradicts all the eyewitness accounts.

now people at this forum keep referencing "eyewitnesses who support the fdr" but they won't name those eyewitnesses or provide any proper documentation.

can you figure out why yet?
 
TC329 said:
the physical damage to the trees is in a southwest heading.
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Please provide a source for this claim.


the debris that exploded in that direction traveled in a southwest heading.
now i know some of you can do physics......[/qoute]

Please provide a source of this claim.

if 100tons traveling at hundreds of miles per hour explodes towards the southwest then physics indicates that it had to be coming from the northeast.
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you still have to establish proof of the claims above in order to make this assumption.


if it is coming from the northeast then this explains how debris ended up in indian lake and new baltimore [opposite direction of the blast trajectory] because it had to be created in the air and carried that way in the wind.
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Please show us your calculations.



otherwise you perfectly in tact airplane that impacts flying southeast over the crash site crashing inverted which doesn't go with the physical evidence nor the eyewitness accounts which have the plane coming in with its wings vertical to the ground and not inverted out of the northeast. there is no debris trail going across the field in the direction of indian lake and new baltimore. there is no debris trail that goes from indian lake to new baltimore......
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Please provide your source for these claims.





the rest of your post is assinine, as you are only assuming what happened. Until you provide proof, its pure guessing on your part.
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TC329 said:
therefor the fdr :

a) contradicts all the physical evidence
b) contradicts all the eyewitness accounts.
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So they planted FDR data that contradicts their faked physical evidence or did they plant physical evidence that contradicts the fake FDR data?

BTW, one uses capital letters for acronyms.
 
Arus808 said:
of course you provide a source of this claim?


fully intact? now you are simply exaggerating, because it was not fully intact. YOu can provide a source of this "fully intact" engine right?





wally miller was only at the crash site, could you please provide a source where he saw a "fully" intact engine? be sure to provide pictures he took of this engine

too bad WAlly MIller doesn't believe in the crap of the 911 liar movement.
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wally miller "was only at the crash site" how could he have seen the huge engine part in the pond at "the crash site".....

oh geeze i dont know....

i better call wally and let him know how quickly the rabid bush lemmings are throwing him under the bus.....
 
TC329 said:
wally miller "was only at the crash site" how could he have seen the huge engine part in the pond at "the crash site".....

oh geeze i dont know....

i better call wally and let him know how quickly the rabid bush lemmings are throwing him under the bus.....
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Stop twisting Wally Miller's claim. First your movement wants to discredit him, and use his words to claim that there was no plane (which he has gone on record to state that your movement was WRONG about what he stated), and now you want to use him to prove that there DEFINITELY was a plane by having him use his claim that he saw an "engine".



Make up your mind.
 
Pardalis said:
So they planted FDR data that contradicts their faked physical evidence or did they plant physical evidence that contradicts the fake FDR data?
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the physical evidence is not fake. how can it be?

the fdr is fake.
so is the cvr transcript.

BTW, one uses capital letters for acronyms.
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blah blah blah like i care...........
 
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