NASA Astronaut - Alien cover up!

The purpose of an Alien cover-up is to hold onto power? How would revealing it reduce power?
 
George W. Bush"s approval rating is 29%. Many people in the USA think that Bush lied to get people in the Iraq war and more money and power to his oil friends. So why would George W. Bush need to cover up aliens and UFOS to stay in power when many people want to impeach Bush? That argument for the cover up doesn"t make any sense. Besides there are many people working in the government, somebody would have exposed the cover up with credible evidence if the cover up was true.
 
King of the Americas said:
*To hold onto "power"...

When you look at ANY 'government' actions, that is ultimately the answer.

IF the American government, or any government for that matter, came forth and openly admitted, that they were not the 'ultimate power', and that something was 'more capable' then them...what would the result be?
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But why a country announcing it has evidence of ET visitation would reduce its power?. That's a baseless wild speculation, especially for countries other than the US.

Seems to me far more reasonable that it is just the other way around. That is, a goverment would reinforce and strenghten its power with such a formidable announcement: national pride of being the first to find evidence of ET life (and intelligent!); scaring other potential enemy countries by possesing an unimaginable advanced technology; diverting the attention from internal political mess to something fascinating, etc.


SETI doesn't look for or listen for "near Earth U.F.O.'s", they are looking to other stars for signals.
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Yes, but the mere fact of knowing that there is intelligent life out there in space would have the same negative effect on power, according to your rationale above. It would tell the public that there are advanced ET beings capable of invading us, and that we had already revealed to them our position in space. So I don't see why your rationale doesn't apply to SETI.
 
If you actually listen to the interview, Mitchell sounds like he's claiming he's been in on "official" meetings on this topic, with goverment reps etc etc, but after a while it becomes clear he's not. All that he has been "in" on are meetings with various other well known members of the UFO's are real community.

Of course, the media has preferred to go with the initial misinterpretation.
 
Patricio Elicer said:
But what in hell is the purpose of an alien cover-up?,.... and for decades!

On one hand we have SETI, a US effort to detect ET life, and on the other hand we are told that the US covers up ET findings. Silly.

I can imagine that the US has a lot more to gain declaring that they have ET evidence than hiding it. Why covering it up?
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I think a common rebuttle would be the notion that the gov't doesn't mind wasting our money pretending to find life to tell the public that they are still searching for it.

But SETI is also privately funded.

http://www.seti.org/about-us/index.php

So we can play on the idea of "greedy corporations" and suggest that they would act in their best interest and not give money to SETI if there is any reason at all to believe aliens have already visited.

Not only would they withdraw their money, but you can imagine they'd bribe an employee, involved in this so-called "cover up", millions of dollars to leak hard evidence.

That would be some powerful advertising to be the company that proved aliens exist.
 
From today's Observer - Quotes of the Week:

Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinions on this.
NASA spokesman.

But they would say that, wouldn't they? (Also a quote - Mandy Rice Davis, IIRC)
 
How likely is it that Aliens actully have been here?

I remember my old physics teacher told me and my class that Aliens will probably never come to us and we will never get to them. Because of vast distance between us.
 
Lennart Hyland said:
How likely is it that Aliens actully have been here?

I remember my old physics teacher told me and my class that Aliens will probably never come to us and we will never get to them. Because of vast distance between us.
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Or more likely:

Alien Commander: Well, troops. What have we found out about this planet?

Scout 1: Sir, the biggest news story of the year is one Anna Nicole Smith.

Scout 2: Sir, these people eat from a place called "Taco Bell." Willingly.

Scout 3: DUDE! When they wear their clothes? They, like, SAG!

Scout 4: Well, they DID elect George W. Bush for President in the United States.

Alien Commander: Okay, that's it. We're out of here. There's no intelligent life on this rock.
 
A question to ask alien visitation believers is why huge numbers of professional and amateur astronomers have watched, filmed and photographed the sky every night all over the world for many decades and yet never seem to see a damn thing that they can't explain.
 
wipeout said:
A question to ask alien visitation believers is why huge numbers of professional and amateur astronomers have watched, filmed and photographed the sky every night all over the world for many decades and yet never seem to see a damn thing that they can't explain.
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Because they're in on it of course.:)
 
In the absolutely horrifyingly woo book "The Field" by Lynne McTaggart, we are treated to the story of Ed Mitchell's successful ESP tests carried out in secret while on Apollo 14. No documentation, of course. So he's into aliens too? OK, now we know astronauts aren't infallible.
 
Ragnarok said:
Well, one would first have to take them seriously before that process could start. Name me a significant number of incidents where the news media has treated these reports with anything beyond the standard ridicule and disbelief?
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Every episode of Larry King Live, ever.

If that's not enough please define "significant number."
 
jond said:
In the absolutely horrifyingly woo book "The Field" by Lynne McTaggart, we are treated to the story of Ed Mitchell's successful ESP tests carried out in secret while on Apollo 14. No documentation, of course. So he's into aliens too? OK, now we know astronauts aren't infallible.
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I believe Randi talked about the same thing in "Flim-Flam". Parapsychologists tried to salvage something from Mitchell's spectacular failure on these tests by saying that he performed far more badly than mere chance could explain; therefore, something paranormal was happening.
 
Edgar has always been deeply into the paranormal. He used to conduct ESP experiments from space with his friends down on earth on NASA missions to the moon. He also walked on the moon for 9 hours during the Apollo 14 mission. Mitchell founded the Institute of Noetic Sciences to research things such as psychic phenomenon. Of course he believes aliens are visiting the earth.
 
The late Gordon Cooper, one of the Mercury 7, also believed in the UFOs and the aliens. I actually didn't know that when I bought his book, Leap Of Faith. But it became clear as he started making mention of it. Kinda ruined it for me, don't even think I finished the book.

I hate how Hollywood promotes paranormal activity, especially in a movie that documents actual space program events. Like the flick, The Right Stuff. Everything was fine, until the "fireflies" puzzle was revealed by astronauts. What looked like fireflies appeared around the capsule during the Earth orbits. For awhile, unexplained. So of course in the movie, Hollywood dramatizes that the fireflies were burning sparks floating up from aboriginal fires in Australia. Of course. And somehow they never mentioned that the fireflies' origin was finally revealed by Scott Carpenter (who followed Glenn) during Carpenter's erratic spaceflight (frost particles on the outside of the capsule being dislodged).
 
Lennart Hyland said:
How likely is it that Aliens actully have been here?

I remember my old physics teacher told me and my class that Aliens will probably never come to us and we will never get to them. Because of vast distance between us.
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If aliens could somehow manage near-light speed travel, they could reach us quite easily. But the energy to do so would be unimaginably high. So to use up resources like this just to abduct middle-aged American farm hands is just a trifle puzzelling.;)
 
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