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Obama - basically Hitler.

chipmunk stew said:
The data in the link also show this:
http://pewglobal.org/reports/images/247-2.gif

It seems that Germans are favorable towards Americans (citizens), but unfavorable towards America (government and its policies).
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I'm confirming this opinion all the time, yet the AIPAC- and Pro-Bush people say that I'm a quote: "America Hater" ...

Anyway: Comparing Democrats to Hitler is like comparing Conservatives to Liberals ... Or Nazis to Liberals ... Or O'Reilly to Olberman ... Or Darat to MagZ ... Or ... [you get my point]
 
Some friends of mine pretended to be Canadian when they went to France just because of random people pestering them just about everywhere when they originally said they were Americans. They got people blaming them for making French people fat because of fast food restaurants, for killing Iraqi babies to drive their hummer (they don't own a car), and a bunch of other garbage. First they just tried to talk as little as possible and then just gave up and said they were Canadian. Peace for the rest of the trip. Yup another worthless anecdote.
 
Policenaut said:
Some friends of mine pretended to be Canadian when they went to France just because of random people pestering them just about everywhere when they originally said they were Americans. They got people blaming them for making French people fat because of fast food restaurants, for killing Iraqi babies to drive their hummer (they don't own a car), and a bunch of other garbage. First they just tried to talk as little as possible and then just gave up and said they were Canadian. Peace for the rest of the trip. Yup another worthless anecdote.
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No, honestly, they all are. Worthless, that is.
 
GreyICE said:
41% is now favorable?

I'd say that mixed would be the most generous adjective you could use. Favorable isn't justified by the evidence (thought it amuses me that Americans think Americans are greedy more than any other nation).
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No, 41% is unfavorable. The table I posted is Western Publics Rate Major Nations, i.e. "America (government and its policies)"

The chart you posted showed that Germans are generally favorable towards Americans (citizens).
 
GreyICE said:
41% is now favorable?

I'd say that mixed would be the most generous adjective you could use. Favorable isn't justified by the evidence (thought it amuses me that Americans think Americans are greedy more than any other nation).
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Oh come on ... 41% of approval rating for the current republican administration is muuuuuuuch higher than the US-approval rating. So the damned liberal Germans prefer the current administration even more then the conservative US-Citizens do... :

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

So I guess that it would be far more appropriate to compare Bush to Hitler than comparing Obama to him ...
 
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Oliver said:
Oh come on ... 41% of approval rating for the current republican administration is muuuuuuuch higher than the US-approval rating. So the damned liberal Germans prefer the current administration even more then the conservative US-Citizens do... :

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
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The Pew numbers stop at 2005, though, so such a contrast is meaningless.

Also, being asked to rate the job approval of a specific administration is very different from being asked to rate your overall feeling towards a nation.
 
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Oliver said:
Oh come on ... 41% of approval rating for the current republican administration is muuuuuuuch higher than the US-approval rating. So the damned liberal Germans prefer the current administration even more then the conservative US-Citizens do... :

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

So I guess that it would be far more appropriate to compare Bush to Hitler than comparing Obama to him ...
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So you can't tell the difference between attitude towards citizens, and attitude towards president?

Coming from you? Not surprised in the least.
 
chipmunk stew said:
The Pew numbers stop at 2005, though, so such a contrast is meaningless.

Also, being asked to rate the job approval of a specific administration is very different from being asked to rate your overall feeling towards a nation.
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They aren't meaningless since the approval rating didn't enhance since 2005. However, since many people over here are obsessed with Obama's POV about the world, the rating of American relations were overwhelmingly positive before Bush went to war.

So the overall rating before Iraq was indeed more positive than after the invasion. I wonder why this opinion changed in the meantime - and why Obama is viewed as positive as he was viewed in recent months ... :rolleyes:

Approval rating 2008:

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
 
Hey, I think the comparison might just be valid.

Chances are once Obama gets elected he will first try to consolidate his power. Assuming, of course, that he can get elected legitimately. If he can't, he'll probably just have the liberals that control the supreme court declare him the victor. Next, I suspect he will try to overrule the will of congress with signing statements, executive orders, and secret legal opinions. Then he'll weaken the judiciary by attacking habeus corpus, probably try to wiretap people without warrants, maybe even declare his opponents "enemy combatants". It goes without saying he will replace all the career lawyers in the attorney general's office with political appointees guaranteed to toe the line. He'll probably fire any US attorneys who won't investigate his enemies.

And that's just in the US. Who knows what he will do abroad: Secret prisons, extraordinary renditions, maybe even torture. He'll probably build a military-industrial complex that spends more money on "defense" than the next 20 countries in the world combined. Once he's done that, who would be surprised if he trumped up some charges against an enemy state rich in resources--oil, for example-- and used these charges as justification for a preemptive war, "liberating" the population for their own benefit? With as much as possible outsourced to companies run by his cronies. All the time attacking the patriotism of anyone foreign or domestic who opposes the plan. How many times have you heard Obama say it: "If you're not with us, you're against us."

Yep, I think Stein is on to something here. How can the liberal media be so blind not to see the comparisons?

Obama needs to be stopped. The fate of the free world depends on it.
 
Oliver said:
They aren't meaningless since the approval rating didn't enhance since 2005.
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Yes, it is meaningless to compare American views of the job their president is doing today with European views of America in general three years ago. Completely, utterly, hopelessly meaningless. Your post is a great example of how any attempt to draw a meaningful conclusion from such a comparison results in nothing but gibberish.
 
BeAChooser said:
And what lies were those? I'd be happy to debate with you such topics as Chinagate, Campaign Finance Gate, FileGate, Clintons many sexual assaults, and the odd circumstances surrounding the deaths of Ron Brown and Vince Foster. :D
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Oh, so this post was satire. I almost thought you were being serious.
 
chipmunk stew said:
Yes, it is meaningless to compare American views of the job their president is doing today with European views of America in general three years ago. Completely, utterly, hopelessly meaningless. Your post is a great example of how any attempt to draw a meaningful conclusion from such a comparison results in nothing but gibberish.
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How so? If the majority of Europeans and Americans agree that the current US-President sucks, why is this in any possible way gibberish. [Unless, of course, you're employed by the current Administration yourself]

However, there is no way to compare a liberal [centering] Obama to Hitler. Hitler was a Conservative!

What's so hard for you and the like of O'Reilly to understand such a simple, historical fact??? :confused:
 
Oliver said:
How so? If the majority of Europeans and Americans agree that the current US-President sucks, why is this in any possible way gibberish. [Unless, of course, you're employed by the current Administration yourself]

However, there is no way to compare a liberal [centering] Obama to Hitler. Hitler was a Conservative!

What's so hard for you and the like of O'Reilly to understand such a simple, historical fact??? :confused:
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Huh, wait, you're Godwinning in response to a Godwin.

Next on the "Only from Oliver..."
 
GreyICE said:
Huh, wait, you're Godwinning in response to a Godwin.

Next on the "Only from Oliver..."
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No, I'm responding to the distorted minds of O'Reilly and friends - which basically is this historical Fact:

Obama is a centered liberal
Hitler was a right-leaning conservative

So what point didn't you understand? :confused:
 
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