Richard Gage offers Hard Evidence!

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The day is finally here. The truthers have hard evidence of an inside job. Or at least this desperate recruitment letter by Richard Gage is titled "Hard Evidence Letter".

What is this long awaited hard evidence? Let's see.

http://www.ae911truth.org/downloads/hard_evidence_letter.pdf

Scientists have determined conclusively that thermite — a high-tech incendiary — was used. Chemical traces in the steel and the dust were found. Each “collapse” exhibited thick, billowing, pyroclastic-like dust clouds that rapidly expanded to over ten times the volume of the buildings. Each showed squibs (explosive ejections of pulverized building materials) easily seen in all of the videos. The twin towers were supposed to have “pancaked” down, but there was no stack of floors found at the bottom — everything was blown outside the footprint of the buildings in a 1,200-foot radius — and 90,000 tons of concrete, metal decking and floor trusses were completely missing from the debris field.

Scientist have now determined conclusively that thermite was used? Each collapse exhibited squibs? I thought he removed the WTC7 squibs claim already. I guess he didn't then. Jeez. This plus all the basic Gage points including 100 responders reporting explosive sounds.

Should we laugh or cry?

 

[Foolmewunz]

Has Gage totally lost it? Has he gone the way of Fetzer, realizing that the only people who take him seriously are maroons and that he can just say anything as long as he says it often enough, and keeps his fingers in his ears (and blindfolds on his eyes) and just ignores any/all common sense and scientific evidence that refutes his nonsense?

I think there's a special place in my non-existing hell for people like this. Griffin, Alex Jones, Gage, Fetzer.... They don't even bother to check the facts - just spew their nonsense as long as someone will buy their book or dvd or some group will pay them to show up and do their schtick.

Gage has just given up any posture of science, enginering, or math since the cardboard tower fiasco, in my opinion.

 

[Brainster]

Being a nut is not a disqualification in this movement. It's a requirement.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Should we laugh or cry?

If by cry, you mean crying in laughter, then by all means!
I think his WTC 7 squibs canard comes from the corner damage Jones still hasn't corrected in his paper (can we ever expect him to?).

I still think Gage lost it when he used the boxes :\

 

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I agree, that Gage lost it permanently with the box fiasco. This just adds to the misery.

 

[mrbaracuda]

Someone put him out of his misery already!

 

[Stupid]

What is Richard Gage's favorite dessert ??

Molten Chocolate Cake, topped with Miracle Whip, and sprinkled with conspiracy nuts.

=S=

 

[T.A.M.]

The man has lost it...

In the paragraph ref pasted, alone, he contradicts himself.

1. Thermite was used, yet there was a Pyroclastic-like dust clouds. Well as far as I know Thermite simply melts steel, so how on earth do we get the volcano clouds from that?

2. Chemical traces of Thermite IN the steel? really?? really??

3. Squibs? So 2005.

4. No stacks of floors found at the bottom? So he interviewed everyone at the clean up, who confirmed for him that no segments of compacted floors were found? Interesting, as their is a photo, IIRC, of such compacted floors.

5. EVERYTHING was blown outside its footprint, in a 1200 foot radius? OMG, stop the presses, there was a giant empty crater where the WTCs once stood, and no one noticed. That 8 storey high pile that was IN THE FOOTPRINT, must have been more magic CGI!

6. 90,000 tonnes missing? really? I am sure he and his colleagues somehow reached this figure by subtracting the estimated masses of the towers pre-collapse, and subtracting the estimated weight of everything removed from the site. Despite this completely ridiculous and inaccurate way of doing things, I will grant them it, but how on earth do they arrive at what exactly (concrete, steel, trusses, decking) was missing? How do they know it wasn't all steel, or all decking, or something else?

Really, so much bad, bad, woo, so little time.

TAM

 

[DaN K. StAnLeY]

C'mon Dickie, I was sold on the "cardboard box theory."

Squibs, no squibs, I guess it all depends on what forum you're posting in,LOL!

 

[CptColumbo]

The man has lost it...

In the paragraph ref pasted, alone, he contradicts himself.

1. Thermite was used, yet there was a Pyroclastic-like dust clouds. Well as far as I know Thermite simply melts steel, so how on earth do we get the volcano clouds from that?

A volcano...duh. Don't underestimate the power of the NWO.

2. Chemical traces of Thermite IN the steel? really?? really??

3. Squibs? So 2005.

Puffs = explosives. Explosions = explosives. Flames = explosives. Smoke = explosives. Debris common to an office building = explosives. Candy canes = explosives.

4. No stacks of floors found at the bottom? So he interviewed everyone at the clean up, who confirmed for him that no segments of compacted floors were found? Interesting, as their is a photo, IIRC, of such compacted floors.

IIRC its even on display.

5. EVERYTHING was blown outside its footprint, in a 1200 foot radius? OMG, stop the presses, there was a giant empty crater where the WTCs once stood, and no one noticed. That 8 storey high pile that was IN THE FOOTPRINT, must have been more magic CGI!

Or maybe elves taking a break from making shoes.

6. 90,000 tonnes missing? really? I am sure he and his colleagues somehow reached this figure by subtracting the estimated masses of the towers pre-collapse, and subtracting the estimated weight of everything removed from the site. Despite this completely ridiculous and inaccurate way of doing things, I will grant them it, but how on earth do they arrive at what exactly (concrete, steel, trusses, decking) was missing? How do they know it wasn't all steel, or all decking, or something else?

My theory is that they work at carnivals in their free time (which they probably have a lot of now) guessing people's weight.

Really, so much bad, bad, woo, so little time.

TAM

Well if you want to cling to science over magic, I can see your point.

 

[boloboffin]

To be fair, the thing about squibs is in the paragraph about the Towers. The next paragraph is about 7 and it doesn't have anything about the squibs. He feels free to talk about evidence of thermite there, though, and that's pure baloney.

 

[mrbaracuda]

4. No stacks of floors found at the bottom? So he interviewed everyone at the clean up, who confirmed for him that no segments of compacted floors were found? Interesting, as their is a photo, IIRC, of such compacted floors.

IIRC its even on display.

Didn't someone here even point out how there's a photograph of that piece which is on display on the wall behind him?

 

[CptColumbo]

Didn't someone here even point out how there's a photograph of that piece which is on display on the wall behind him?

It's in the Richard vs. Mark thread.

 

[boloboffin]

Yes, that was little old me that noticed that.

His left, our right.

That slide is an older version of the current slide:

It is true that aluminum does not rust, Mr. Gage. It is also true that iron does not rust in bands.

 

[mrbaracuda]

Oh that's what that darn twoofer was on about when he was suddenly talking about 'meteorites'.

Care to explain your comment about the rust to me?

 

[~enigma~]

Now cardboard is hard evidence? Guess when your an impotent truther anything is hard...

 

[Lennart Hyland]

I'm borrowing this thread a little.

Gage points out that if the Towers pancaked down, where is then the floors? Now I'm not a truther but how do you respons to that and really where is all the floors?

 

[~enigma~]

I'm borrowing this thread a little.

Gage points out that if the Towers pancaked down, where is then the floors? Now I'm not a truther but how do you respons to that and really where is all the floors?

An acre sized slab of concrete falls from 100 stories and where do you expect to find them and in what condition?

ETA - Why is this supposedly evidence of a CD?

 

[Lennart Hyland]

An acre sized slab of concrete falls from 100 stories and where do you expect to find them and in what condition?

ETA - Why is this supposedly evidence of a CD?

Yeah I guess you shouldnt expect to find them all round up intact at the bottom of the building no.

So if I get it right. The floors were disloged from their places and smashed into pieces when they hit the ground or when they got hit by the above falling floors?

 

[boloboffin]

Oh that's what that darn twoofer was on about when he was suddenly talking about 'meteorites'.

Care to explain your comment about the rust to me?

Richard Gage believes that all the meteorites are large chunks of previously molten iron. My comment about the rust is that iron doesn't rust in bands, as the rusting picture clearly shows that meteorite to be doing. In fact, there are four distinct horizontal bands of rust there, interspaced with a greyish, stone-looking material.

That is four floors compressed together. The structural steel is rusting, the concrete, wall boarding, and other contents of the floors is not rusting. Gage is looking for the compressed floors and they are in his own presentation.

Another picture of the meteorites is found here:

The caption reads as follows:

Large pieces of debris, likened to meteorites by preservationists, are actually several floors of the towers compressed together as the buildings collapsed. Furniture, twisted metal, pipes, cords and even papers with legible type are visible. The pieces are kept in a humidity-controlled tent in Hangar 17 of Kennedy International Airport.

"...even papers with legible type are visible." Does that sound like paper embedded into molten iron to you?