Churchill and the Holocaust

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Mondial said:
Well then why didn't Eisenhower write about the "genocide of Jews" in his book CRUSADE IN EUROPE which came out in the late 1950's?
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Well of course he did speak about the genocide of Jews in his book.

http://webletter.net/cybrary/Facts.aft.lib.eis.html

However if you're straining to view what he said as only refering to work camps with no "final solution" or "holcaust" then you'll see the lack of lurid details in this book as confirmation. The fact that such lurid details are available elsewhere will probably not dissuade you.
 
I've been told Hitchcock went along with the battalion that liberated one of the concentration camps, and what he filmed was so horrifying that it has never been released...
 
View from Here said:
I've been told Hitchcock went along with the battalion that liberated one of the concentration camps, and what he filmed was so horrifying that it has never been released...
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I've been told the moon is made of cheese. Make sure you have your facts squared away when going in against Holocaust deniers, because their whole MO is, "You know something wrong therefore you know NOTHING."
 
Pardalis said:
Starvation and disease? Seems to me either way the Nazis are guilty of killing these people by not providing them the basic human care.

You lose both ways.
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Kthulhut Fhtagn said:
And I don't think what we did with the Japanese, Germans, and Italians were right either but we treated them much better than the Germans treated their prisoners.

And who is responsible for that? Nazi worshippers today sit back and point to how it was the allies who caused the typhus and starvation by bombing the railroads that allowed food and medicine to reach the camps. Of course; that doesn't explain why the white allied POW's were treated so much better than their black and Jewish counter-parts. Or better than the Soviet POWs. I've yet to hear the deniers explain why white allied POW's had such a low death-rate in camps compared to the Jews, Communists, and other so-called "undesireables". Could it be that the Nazis had the medicine and food to care for all of the prisoners in the best possible situation but simply deemed "non-Aryans" as expendable and gave them little-to-no food or medicine?
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This is NOT a matter of "mistreatment" and "neglect" of the "Jewish prisoners of war." It is exceedingly well documented, and eyewitnesses still living can assert, that the Nazis are guilty of mass murder and genocide through a bureaucratic, technological system of relocation, forced labor, extermination, and abominations unleashed on the civilian population of the areas they occupied. I won't argue that they were unique in their barbarity as there have unfortunately been a great number of mass atrocities in human history. But to equate their treatment of their victims with that of neglected POWs is yielding significant ground to the deniers.
 
Gazpacho said:
I've been told the moon is made of cheese. Make sure you have your facts squared away when going in against Holocaust deniers, because their whole MO is, "You know something wrong therefore you know NOTHING."
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To be fair, he didn't offer that as a fact, only as a rumour which he hoped someone else here would confirm or deny. And it seems the rumour is correct - a Google search brings up this as the first hit. It's the actual film on Google Video - you should watch it, Mondial. After all, you've nothing else to do while you're suspended...
 
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Well, touche. The way it was described it had the ring of an urban legend.
 
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grunion said:
This is NOT a matter of "mistreatment" and "neglect" of the "Jewish prisoners of war." It is exceedingly well documented, and eyewitnesses still living can assert, that the Nazis are guilty of mass murder and genocide through a bureaucratic, technological system of relocation, forced labor, extermination, and abominations unleashed on the civilian population of the areas they occupied. I won't argue that they were unique in their barbarity as there have unfortunately been a great number of mass atrocities in human history. But to equate their treatment of their victims with that of neglected POWs is yielding significant ground to the deniers.
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I know and whole-heartedly agree. I'm just curious about why you've quoted me.
 
Mondial said:
Winston Churchill wrote a 6 volume history of the second world war (The Gathering Storm, Their Finest Hour, The Grand Alliance, The Hinge of Fate, Closing the Ring, Triumph and Tragedy). He has everything covered except for one thing. He doesn't mention a "genocide" of Jews, "6 million victims" or "gas chambers".
www.rense.com/general74/short2.htm
Churchill knew that the so called "holocaust" was largely fake atrocity propaganda and didn't want his serious war study compromised by it.
For those who are genuine skeptics the holocaust has been found wanting www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com
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Great post!

I will be glad when the Holocaust Hoax is finally shown to be the massive fraud that it is. It only exist as a money making cash cow for the Zionists.
 
Sunni Man said:
Great post!

I will be glad when the Holocaust Hoax is finally shown to be the massive fraud that it is. It only exist as a money making cash cow for the Zionists.
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Of course the only people who decide to show support for Mondial is the anti-Semite and the Muslim...
 
If it's such a great post why don't you nominate it?

Time for my regular attempt to start a conspiracy theory: the reason the Germans lost WW2 was because they wasted their resources producing tons of false documentation about the false Holocaust -- all those German bureaucrats, safe from the war, generating tons of paper... The cunning devils.
 
SDC said:
Time for my regular attempt to start a conspiracy theory: the reason the Germans lost WW2 was because they wasted their resources producing tons of false documentation about the false Holocaust -- all those German bureaucrats, safe from the war, generating tons of paper... The cunning devils.
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Aha

Bureaucrat 1: I still don't get why we have to do all this!

Bureaucrat 2: Because Speer ordered it.

Bureaucrat 1: But were faking train records of millions of Jews, that have already been relocated to our secret bases in the Hollow Earth, being deported to isolated places in Poland. Where the heck is Chelmno anyways?

Bureaucrat 2: Should we lose the war, despite the super weapons the Fuhrer has promised, we want lots of records of an extermination of Jews. Hmmm we should get some patents made for industrial sized crematoria that can burn thousands of bodies a day!

Bureaucrat 1: But why would we want to do that?

Bureaucrat 2: Because of a plan by Goebbels, if we can't win then we'll leave evidence to make us the most evil regime in history! Hmmmmm marching the last starving people in the labor camps in circles with no food on pointless Death Marches might work after all.

Bureaucrat 1: That's crazy! Why would we want that?

Bureaucrat 2: Would you shut up and help me figure out a way to get a couple hundred thousand bodies so we can throw them into some ravine called Babi Yar.
 
SDC said:
If it's such a great post why don't you nominate it?

Time for my regular attempt to start a conspiracy theory: the reason the Germans lost WW2 was because they wasted their resources producing tons of false documentation about the false Holocaust -- all those German bureaucrats, safe from the war, generating tons of paper... The cunning devils.
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I am not anti semitic. But the Zionist Jews did fake huge amounts of records in order to gain sympathy from the world and gather support for their own state of Israel.
 
Sunni Man said:
I am not anti semitic. But the Zionist Jews did fake huge amounts of records in order to gain sympathy from the world and gather support for their own state of Israel.
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It this were true, maybe my father would have found back more of his lost relatives.
Therefore: evidence please, so we can start searching at once.
 
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Sunni Man said:
I am not anti semitic. But the Zionist Jews did fake huge amounts of records in order to gain sympathy from the world and gather support for their own state of Israel.
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Sunni Man said:
I am not anti semitic. But the Zionist Jews did fake huge amounts of records in order to gain sympathy from the world and gather support for their own state of Israel.
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!@#$%^&*()_ I object! I object!! I made up that fantasy conspiracy theory!

Is there somewhere around Jref whither I may drag this copycat conspiracist to be chastised?

It is just too much. I spend entire minutes thinking up my own fantasy conspiracy... I think I mention it 2 or 3 times, and it finally gets a little recognition (thank you, Travis) and what happens? Some, some, fellow springs up and claims it for his own!!

Jeez oh pete. Not only is there no balm in Gilead, but there ain't no justice.
 
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