Skepticism and Evolution

Well this thread is getting pretty bizarre, and that kind of proves Truethat's original point. People who like to pride themselves on their rationality and 'scientific' approach really get hot under the collar, even to the point of childishness, simply when their pet theory is challenged in any sustained way.
Anyway, it's losing its interest value, so I'm off to other threads.
 
plumjam said:
Well this thread is getting pretty bizarre, and that kind of proves Truethat's original point. People who like to pride themselves on their rationality and 'scientific' approach really get hot under the collar, even to the point of childishness, simply when their pet theory is challenged in any sustained way.
Anyway, it's losing its interest value, so I'm off to other threads.
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For the Lurkers:
let it be known that once again, Plumjam has
1.) Avoided questions which would invalidate his arguments
2.) Refused to actually define his position and his arguments, remaining intentionally vauge.
3.) Accused others of being "angry/upset/zealots..." in avoidance of addressing questions.
4.) When it becomes clear that he will not be let off the hook, he leaves claiming moral superiority.
 
plumjam said:
I made an effort to answer you.
Now your turn. How did your dead mindless slime produce life?
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Well, first the dead mindless slime decided it had to get a life, and we all know that the best part of life is sex. So seeing as how it was the only game in town, the mindless slime had sex with itself for a couple of million years, by which time it had somewhat tired of what was essentially one part incest to two parts masturbation. So it started having sex with other things, and then it gradually evolved into a wetter slimier thing having sex with other wetter slimier things, and then they grew legs and became scaly things having sex with other scaly things, and then they grew lots of hair and became hairy things having sex with hairy things, and then they took the the trees and they were hairy things having sex in trees, and then they came back down and stood on two legs, and then they were hairy things that found it easier to lie down to have sex, and then they lost a lot of hair and put on clothes to compensate, and moved to Europe for the winter and got embarrassed by their cousins (who they didn't have sex with), and then they evolved into Victorian Englishmen and NO ONE had sex, and then some of them went on holiday to Australia...

...I guess what I'm trying to say with all this is, I slept with your mum.
 
plumjam said:
Well this thread is getting pretty bizarre, and that kind of proves Truethat's original point. People who like to pride themselves on their rationality and 'scientific' approach really get hot under the collar, even to the point of childishness, simply when their pet theory is challenged in any sustained way.
Anyway, it's losing its interest value, so I'm off to other threads.
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That is because you really aren't interested in a discussion about evolution. You make claims, but you don't back them. You insult people who DO back their claims, and when you get fed up, you announce you're taking your ball, and going home.

If you really have a claim on why you dislike the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection, then back it! Show the evidence, propose an alternate theory that explains the diversity of life that we see all around us. Many people have indeed shown small snippets of evidence showing how evolution could be true. And yet, all you do is ignore what people say, accusing them of having faith in an imaginary theory, when you don't even have that!
 
plumjam said:
Well this thread is getting pretty bizarre, and that kind of proves Truethat's original point. People who like to pride themselves on their rationality and 'scientific' approach really get hot under the collar, even to the point of childishness, simply when their pet theory is challenged in any sustained way.
Anyway, it's losing its interest value, so I'm off to other threads.
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Yeah, we're the childish ones, not the one who posted a thread just to see what reaction it would get. :rolleyes:
 
plumjam said:
Well this thread is getting pretty bizarre, and that kind of proves Truethat's original point. People who like to pride themselves on their rationality and 'scientific' approach really get hot under the collar, even to the point of childishness, simply when their pet theory is challenged in any sustained way.
Anyway, it's losing its interest value, so I'm off to other threads.
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Wait, which side are you on again? This describes you perfectly.
 
plumjam said:
I've no idea whether plate tectonics is a very accurate theory or not. Perhaps in 20 years someone will come along with a radically different theory that fits the data a lot better.


On the face of it, though, it seems enormously more reasonable than the TOE. This is because plate tectonics describes a mindless physical process producing unremarkable rock formations which are devoid of specified complexity / apparent design. However, if someone were to take me to Mount Rushmore, point to the faces and argue with a straight face that these formations were produced by mindless physical processes such as plate tectonics + erosion then I'd be justified in concluding that this person was pretty irrational.

It's worth noting that I couldn't really prove him wrong. Even if I showed him historical data about the creation of the faces he could always argue that it's a hoax; a myth.
Also, it is not impossible that plate tectonics plus erosion could (given enough time ;) ) 'create' an accurate copy of Mount Rushmore somewhere else in the world. But to believe in that tiny possibility over the possibility of intelligent design, in my opinion, is by far the less rational choice to take.

People here are believing that the many-orders-of-magnitude-more-complex than Mount Rushmore life forms on Earth were first brought into existence and then enormously but blindly developed by mindless physical forces.
Sorry, but it's crazy.

Here's a quote from Malcolm Muggeridge which pretty much sums up my view on the matter:

""I myself am convinced that the theory of evolution, especially to the extent that it's been applied, will be one of the greatest jokes in the history books of the future. Posterity will marvel that so flimsy and dubious a hypothesis could be accepted with the incredible credulity that it has."
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Ah, yes. Malcolm Muggeridge well known scientistand the "discoverer" of the fraud, Mother Teresa.
 
plumjam said:
Well this thread is getting pretty bizarre, and that kind of proves Truethat's original point. People who like to pride themselves on their rationality and 'scientific' approach really get hot under the collar, even to the point of childishness, simply when their pet theory is challenged in any sustained way.
Anyway, it's losing its interest value, so I'm off to other threads.
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Well, well. A perfect "plumjam". Off he flounces to display his ignorant obtuseness elsewhere. :highlyamused:
 
plumjam said:
Well this thread is getting pretty bizarre, and that kind of proves Truethat's original point. People who like to pride themselves on their rationality and 'scientific' approach really get hot under the collar, even to the point of childishness, simply when their pet theory is challenged in any sustained way.
Anyway, it's losing its interest value, so I'm off to other threads.
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Several forum members have engaged you in a mature manner. They have addressed and/or presented points damaging to your arguments that you seem unable/unwilling to address. You have presented naught but arguments from ignorance and personal incredulity. You have repeatedly demonstrated a dismal lack of understanding regarding the theory that you so energetically dispute. This frequently displayed lack of comprehension makes your objections invalid and serves to reveal that said objections are based on a dogmatic prejudicial determination to demonstrate evolutionary theory false and not, as you claim, an unbiased examination of evidence.
 
plumjam said:
People who like to pride themselves on their irrationality and 'unscientific' approach really get hot under the collar, even to the point of childishness, simply when their pet belief is challenged in any sustained way.
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Fixed it for ya.

Anyway, it's losing its interest value, so I'm off to other threads.
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Why? Seriously, why bother going off to other threads? If you can't defend your pet beliefs about creationism/ID here, you won't have any success in any other thread either.
Instead of employing the same strategy that continues to fail you so miserably, just admit that you're pushing a belief system with zero prediction value.
If you have a better scientific theory than evolution, then state it.

You do understand that "goddidit" doesn't further anything about the understanding of living organisms right?

Oh yeah, you'll never post in or read this thread again,....so the above was for others to enjoy.
 
joobz said:
I can't help but think he's attempting to illict a response to "prove" a point in his religion thread.

In any case, without any further information, Saying "i'm skeptical of evolution." is like saying "I'm skeptical of dave."

really? dave who?
What did dave do?
Is Dave here?
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Foster Zygote said:
Dave's not here.
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Hello, did somebody call?

Dave
 
joobz said:
But I have seen evidence that Dave is a cake.
(Assuming, of course that Dave is a lie)
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I'm sorry to break it to you...but the cake is a lie...

You've been wrong about every single thing you've ever done, including this thing. You're not smart. You're not a scientist. You're not a doctor. You're not even a fulltime employee. Where did your life go so wrong?
-GLaDOS

Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
-HAL
 
paximperium said:
I'm sorry to break it to you...but the cake is a lie...

You've been wrong about every single thing you've ever done, including this thing. You're not smart. You're not a scientist. You're not a doctor. You're not even a fulltime employee. Where did your life go so wrong?
-GLaDOS

Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
-HAL
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I'm making a note here......
 
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