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Merged Are you BORN FR33 ?

fitzgibbon said:
Also a big cut out letter "G" hanging from the ceiling, forget what it really means.

God, the Great Architect of the Universe

More directly, the "G" stands for "geometry", the foundation--you should pardon the expression--of the literal craft of masonry. Symbols are like that. They are often chosen for the richness with which they can convey an idea.

I believe Old Bob has stumbled across references to so-called speculative Freemasonry, which references allege that Freemasons in position of power have engaged in social and political experiments.

Evidence, please.
 
In the mason meeting place they have a little tripod with a square block hanging on cord depicting the laying of the corner stone of Washington by good old 33% George.

He was only 33% George? What was the other 67%?

Did Martha know about this? How about the Continental Congress?
 
"There's an old Polish proverb that says, 'Only someone with nothing to be sorry about smiles back at the rear end of an elephant.'" --Banacek
 
Yeah, that's why the French revolted. It wasn't the oppression or the poverty, that was all made up by the Masons.

If you are refering to the arrest of the Knights Templar IIRC it was King Philip IV (the fair), who reportedly had enough influence on Pope Clement V.

Thank you for correcting me on King Philip, got that wrong. The masons(Knight Templar) had France in debt,so orders were sent to all garrisons to be opened on the 13 th (forget the month)Orders were to kill the masons. And the French revolution was the pay back for the e-lite of France. How could a disorganised mob of starving peasants over come the e-lite? They had help. And I would think the popes interference in the purge of the masons would be why catholics we excluded from the order till now. The KKK is a branch, think they play the same roll as the jesuit do for the pope eg. enforcement. The 5 point star (the never ending triangle) is used by both. Goats factor in both lots, and the 5 sided center is used here and there.
 
Sorry, but this post just contained so much wrongness that I had to pick it apart.

The masons(Knight Templar) had France in debt

The King, you mean. Quite likely, but more to the point, the order was rich. Philip was in dire need of money to finance the war with England; he'd already evicted the jews and seized their property, as well as levied a tax on the clergy. The last act led to a head-on conflict with the pope, culminating in Guillaume de Nogaret briefly taking the aging pope prisoner, which hastened his death. The Templars were simply next in line.

,so orders were sent to all garrisons to be opened on the 13 th (forget the month)Orders were to kill the masons.

Flatly incorrect - the Templars would have had plenty of fight if directly assaulted. Instead, they were arrested on charges of heresy and tortured until confessing. Seizing this excuse, Philip influenced the new pope to dissolve the Order. The possessions were supposedly going to the Order of S:t John, but the majority found their way into Philip's hands instead.

And the French revolution was the pay back for the e-lite of France. How could a disorganised mob of starving peasants over come the e-lite? They had help.

Well, the so-called elite had not really had any real military importance since about the 15th century, and were increasingly lagging behind the merchants and financiers in financial power. Not to say that they were pushovers but... well, maybe they were. What few attempts were made at restoring the old regime tended to end badly.

And I would think the popes interference in the purge of the masons would be why catholics we excluded from the order till now.

Actually, they weren't. It's just the Catholic church who forbade its members from joining, not the Masons.

As for the rest, it's not even worth comment.
 
Thank you for correcting me on King Philip, got that wrong. The masons(Knight Templar) had France in debt,so orders were sent to all garrisons to be opened on the 13 th (forget the month)Orders were to kill the masons. And the French revolution was the pay back for the e-lite of France. How could a disorganised mob of starving peasants over come the e-lite? They had help. And I would think the popes interference in the purge of the masons would be why catholics we excluded from the order till now. The KKK is a branch, think they play the same roll as the jesuit do for the pope eg. enforcement. The 5 point star (the never ending triangle) is used by both. Goats factor in both lots, and the 5 sided center is used here and there.


I think my BS Detector just burnt out from overload.
Needless to say, this is all total crap.
 
Ok, give me a true answer. Who is a mason on this thread.? You bag some of my stuff and if you knew before why didn't you tell the rest of us.? mason colours are red and blue along with the trinity symbol points out what factories they control. And the jews usually have a y in the first three letters like Myer, Toyota, Hyundai, etc Still think I'm right and I'm not a mason. The kkk dressed up with arms and feet spread and pointy hood is symbolising the flying goat and the 5 point star. The center shape of a 5 point star reminds me of a big building in the USA and of course that has nothing to do with mason control. I grew up in a small town and if you weren't a bloody mason you didn't get a job. And the special look (right shoulder, left shoulder, forehead) along with the three type handshake. Also now I'm wound up they have cracked the secret of life taught only too the top masons.
 
Ok, give me a true answer. Who is a mason on this thread.? You bag some of my stuff and if you knew before why didn't you tell the rest of us.? mason colours are red and blue along with the trinity symbol points out what factories they control. And the jews usually have a y in the first three letters like Myer, Toyota, Hyundai, etc Still think I'm right and I'm not a mason. The kkk dressed up with arms and feet spread and pointy hood is symbolising the flying goat and the 5 point star. The center shape of a 5 point star reminds me of a big building in the USA and of course that has nothing to do with mason control. I grew up in a small town and if you weren't a bloody mason you didn't get a job. And the special look (right shoulder, left shoulder, forehead) along with the three type handshake. Also now I'm wound up they have cracked the secret of life taught only too the top masons.

Does anybody besides me hear a siren? Oh, never mind, it's just wooo-wooo-wooo-wooo-wooo...
 
Maybe Old Bob's real name is Napoleon The 14th?
You know,of "They are coming to take me away ,Ha,Ha." fame.
 
Yeah...this is just kooky anymore. A lot of statements about Hyundai and Toyota and KKK hoods symbolizing flying goats...and not a shred of anything approaching evidence; hell right now a web link would be better than what appears to be wild opinion.
 

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