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Astral War

I am giving everyone till next week sometime till i counter. I figure that would be enough time for everyone to get their ***** ready. that way there will be more of you by that time. Free hits for everyone till then.

Ummm, Paul Bethke's been pulling this stunt for 5 years now. You're rather late to the game chum.
 
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No matter what i do or say there will be subjective opinions and judgement calls made.

Well, not necessarily. It depends on your claim. For example: let's say that I claim the ability of telekinesis. Let's say that I claim that it's so strong that I can pick up a person with my power. James Randi challenges me to demonstrate my claim and I respond by flying around outside the JREF.

Okay, you might say, "I have powers, but they're more subtle." Well, that's the point of well-designed demonstration protocols. If you can do something that has a measurable effect on the world, and if it is something beyond what normal people can do (or beyond what would normally happen by chance), a good test should be able to prove it.

Mind you, the level of tests that we'd design here would probably not be rock-solid. But it would be enough to get most of the people on this Forum thinking really hard...if you could do it.

Even if I perform things and predict things with time and dates in front of the eyes of the whole world wide web.

What kinds of things can you perform? What kinds of things can you predict with time and dates? Are they vague? (Along the lines of "I predict that an earthquake will happen") Or specific? ("I predict that an earthquake of magnitude 7.2 on the Richter scale will will have an epicenter 22 kilometers to the northwest of Towada city in Aomori Prefecture at 2:34 am")

If your demonstrations are so vague as to require a subjective "I believe" button to be pressed, then yes, I agree with you: it probably won't float here. But if they're specific enough that a basic set of controls can be designed that will control for all of the other things that could be going on (guessing, trickery, etc.), and if you're willing to work on one, I'll bet you'll get a really good reception from a lot of people on the forum.*

On your other ? I will need a bit of time on that and get back to you as soon as I can.
Thank You

No sweat -- thanks for responding. : )

* Some people will still be, um, snarky. ; )
 
Okay, well since there is a specific claim here (that AstralWar can destroy cults), we'd better test it properly. All cults require a leader, so I invite you all to don white robes and join the Cult of Arthwollipot. You'll need to donate all your worldly goods to me and follow my instructions to the letter. Join me in the Astral War, and we'll see whether AstralWar can really destroy cults or if it's just bluster.
 
Is that short for "snarcastic"? ;)

Hee hee -- what a great word! : )

Okay, well since there is a specific claim here (that AstralWar can destroy cults), we'd better test it properly. All cults require a leader, so I invite you all to don white robes and join the Cult of Arthwollipot. You'll need to donate all your worldly goods to me and follow my instructions to the letter. Join me in the Astral War, and we'll see whether AstralWar can really destroy cults or if it's just bluster.

What's wrong with taking down Scientology? ; )
 
If a person wishes to have followers, you need to follow Jezus's example and conjure up a few tricks, like turning water into plonk, feeding a multitude with a couple of fish, make an elephant disappear alla David Copperfield, that sort of thing.
I'm sure someone can pull it off and have as many suck....er......worshippers as you can handle. Think of all the moola that will roll in. A Lamborghini would be nice.
 
You know, I really didn't realize AstralWar was masking profanity - I thought he/she was talking some sort of "astral war" speak and just wasn't letting on to the rest of us what it all means. But I admit either way I sort of turned it into that - bad ExM.

ArthW, no disrespect intended, it might help if you had a gimmick. Can you channel any discarnate beings? Maybe an extra-terrestrial? Do you know when the world is going to end?? Any good cult leader should at least know when the world is going to end.

AstralWar, two questions: Do these astral wars by any chance occur when you are sleeping and seem to be out astrally? Or is this something you believe to be happening during your waking hours, too?
 
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I am giving everyone till next week sometime till i counter.


Next week sometime?

So if anyone at all who has posted in this thread feels the least bit ill for any reason during a seven day window, you'll claim that as a victory?

When a US soldier is being shot at, does he call out that he's going to return fire next week sometime?

Honestly, AW, if you have any power at all, use it in a definitive manner at your earliest opportunity. Otherwise, people may dismiss you as a crackpot.

To repeat my challenge, I am focussing all of my darkest energy on causing you harm on the astral plane. Defend yourself. If you can.
 
Okay, well since there is a specific claim here (that AstralWar can destroy cults), we'd better test it properly. All cults require a leader, so I invite you all to don white robes and join the Cult of Arthwollipot. You'll need to donate all your worldly goods to me and follow my instructions to the letter. Join me in the Astral War, and we'll see whether AstralWar can really destroy cults or if it's just bluster.

I'd like to join your cult, Arth. I think you'd make a great Unquestioned Lord and Master. Problem is, I don't care for wearing white, and I like my stuff. Would it be okay if I joined as an "In Name Only" member and kept my possessions and a measure of individuality? Let me know ASAP, 'cause I'm eager to prostrate myself before Your Greatness and begin sniveling in Your general direction.
 
Honestly, AW, if you have any power at all, use it in a definitive manner at your earliest opportunity. Otherwise, people may dismiss you as a crackpot.

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May? Harvey is quite convinced of it.

To repeat my challenge, I am focussing all of my darkest energy on causing you harm on the astral plane. Defend yourself. If you can.
What ever you do, do not use the "Corn-Dog of Darkness"; its powers are simply to hard to control.
 
You know, I really didn't realize AstralWar was masking profanity - I thought he/she was talking some sort of "astral war" speak and just wasn't letting on to the rest of us what it all means. But I admit either way I sort of turned it into that - bad ExM.

ArthW, no disrespect intended, it might help if you had a gimmick. Can you channel any discarnate beings? Maybe an extra-terrestrial? Do you know when the world is going to end?? Any good cult leader should at least know when the world is going to end.

AstralWar, two questions: Do these astral wars by any chance occur when you are sleeping and seem to be out astrally? Or is this something you believe to be happening during your waking hours, too?
Possibly only half-astrally>:)
 
You know, I really didn't realize AstralWar was masking profanity - I thought he/she was talking some sort of "astral war" speak and just wasn't letting on to the rest of us what it all means. But I admit either way I sort of turned it into that - bad ExM.
You were not alone; I didn't even notice it and did the same thing - doh!
 

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