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Merged Teacher leads kindergarten class to vote boy with Asperger's out of class

My wife sees a lot of kids with developmental delays (she is a case manager for a genetics research facility) and I know that there are very wide ranges of how these kids can act and many should have no problems in a program as long as reasonable measures are taken.
Some schools are simply not willing to take appropriate measures, because they simply don't want the kids in their classes. My wife has two sons who are Aspergers. The younger one was constantly hassled by teachers in school who simply didn't want to deal with him. There were policies and procedures for dealing with special needs kids in place, but they were mostly ignored because they required a modicum of additional effort. They either ignored him entirely, or kept pushing him until he exploded.

Aspergers kids are known to have behavioural issues, and can often react violently. This is not because they have any tendency to be violent per se, nor is it the result of bad parenting as many want to believe. Aspies cannot handle large amounts of sensory stimulation for extended periods. They become neurologically overloaded, and "short circuit". The violent reaction is an extreme case of this process overload. And classrooms, particularly grammar school classrooms, can easily result in that sort of overstimulation. They typically manifest overstimulation behaviour in less extreme ways like rocking, hand-waving, and other repetitive motions like pushing chairs and tables.

The proper way to deal with an Aspie who is being disruptive is to set aside an isolated but nearby "time-out" zone where he can be channelled when he's becoming disruptive, or can voluntarily retreat to when he feels necessary, and from which can easily re-join the classroom when he "cools down". If that isn't sufficient, then he needs to be removed from the classrom and isolated elsewhere in a low-stimulation environment. Maintaining a very regular and controlled schedule of activity is also very important. Taking an overstimulated Aspie and subjecting him to that sort of public ridicule is just about the worst possible thing that could be done.

In the case of my wife's younger son, G, the school had such measures in place, and they were well informed about his condition; following a few incidents the previous year with his outbursts. He was fine in the classroom while he had a teacher who actually followed procedure. But later that year, G's teacher was changed, and she apparently didn't want him in her class. To the point of actively sabotaged his ability to cope, including refusing to allow him to retreat to his "cool-down" area when necessary, and giving him a hard time whenever he was unable to do something. The principal that year was equally bad, and was quite clear about not wanting him attending class. He also participated in sabotaging G's ability to cope with the classroom, treating him as if he was being deliberately disruptive; and even calling the police in after baiting G into a meltdown. We found out from the police that the principal had greatly exaggerated G's actions, and had made the comment that he believed that G, who is very high-functioning Aspergers, should be institutionalized, and actively worked with the authorities to make that happen. Once G was able to get back into a more reasonable classroom environment again, his "behaviour problems" decreased to almost nothing.
 
So incompetence and not demonstrating competence expected of your certification should not be fireing offenses?

What is the point of teaching certifications if you have the school district have all this training for them?



It's a question of Judgement,and the teacher showed incredibly bad judgement,so bad as to quite rightly call her basis competence into question.
And yes, in a LOT of jobs a single really bad decison will get you fired.
 
It's a question of Judgement,and the teacher showed incredibly bad judgement,so bad as to quite rightly call her basis competence into question.
And yes, in a LOT of jobs a single really bad decison will get you fired.

*Unless you are the President..or a Senator.
 
There are plenty of children who engage in disruptive behavior that do no need to be in special ed, that is why segregation is wrong. there are disruptive kids who have no learning, emotional or developemental disability.
 
Our educations systems is totally f'd when it comes to actually educating kids. I've run into this attitude over and over (and in fact it's the law in WA state) that you MUST place kids in the least restrictive environment in which they can function. In the cases I saw this meant that some kids have their own personal assistant that follows them from class to class. Not only is the entire doctrine ridiculous we should be tracking more kids earlier on into classes that are as hard as possible for them so as to push them to learn as quickly as possible and become productive citizens.

Any teachers here that think we should be tracking our kids more? From my experience the educational establishment teaches against this.
I am totally for tracking for most kids- I am really tired of schools doing things that penalize good students to help lesser prepared/ready students. You cannot teach a level one reader any functional chemistry (physics, astronomy, sociology, advanced (beyond"Fluffy the Bunny Does Her Nails!") literature, etc.) yet they are put in Chemistry classes(etc.) where they are bored, frequently disruptive, and fail - or very close to it . Same for level 1 math - they cannot do the required math. The one good thing is we are beginning to head for (FL.) exit exams (over FCAT) and that should lead to the students who cannot handle the courses they are being put it no longer having that done to them - and their teachers. Why? Because exit exams can't be gamed by administrators - they are not graded by the school and the school cannot override them - so failure shows up as failure and brings the schools lower rankings.
 
The least restrictive enviroment is part of federal law, it applies to all states. Segregation needs to be warranted by behavior not stigma.

I mean the interesting edge WA takes it to. Because.. well, when I went to high school, anyone with severe learning disablities (but not say, Aspergers, although I admit I wouldn't have noted it) were in diferent classes. Which sounds a little off now.
 
So incompetence and not demonstrating competence expected of your certification should not be fireing offenses?

What is the point of teaching certifications if you have the school district have all this training for them?

Teaching certification is generally that you have the knowledge to teach, not the training to deal with classroom problems. I could get a single subject credential for CA by taking particular classes in that subject at my school. They were in the process of changing it, but I might have never needed to manage a class full of kids to get it.

Dealing with SPED does take training and experience to do so correctly and if you are with someone who is SPED and you don't have that, you at least need to know (either by training or by sense) to step back when things go south and have someone who is trained/experience to take over.
 
I'm sorry folks but after reading pages of people across the country in blogs and blog replies and here in this forum, I cannot believe the mob mentality attacking this teacher. You have a parent on a mission, a 5 year old's version of events and a teacher who is forbidden to defend herself because her employer told her not to discuss it.

Yet people are convinced they know what occurred, they know the facts, they know the teacher was abusive, incompetent, yadda yadda yadda. And all from a couple news stories. Shame on all of you. Having an opinion qualified by, "if this is what happened" is fine. That's appropriate. But just outright condemning this teacher on the basis of a pissed off parent's reaction to a 5 year old's account and perhaps an inadequate explanation by the school is really really sad.

Shame on all of you condemning this teacher.

Maybe I wouldn't feel this way if I hadn't just skimmed through literally 500 comments by people on this story, but after reading them I am disgusted. This is a news story for crying out loud. You weren't there. You don't know the facts. You only know the tentative story.


Here are some examples of the mob mentality I found looking at this story.

In the link from post 4 here:
Posted by JBEKmom on May 29, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

[8 email addresses snipped]

Please write. this is the email addresses of the principal, asst principal, and the school board (public domain info).

I live in Kentucky now, and this has affected me. I moved out of Florida for things like this that were occurring in the school systems there.

Alex- You are a special wonderful boy. My son (age 8) said that if we lived there, he would love to be your friend.
I was going to suggest removal but I'd have to register. I may still do so later. This is just disgusting. These people don't know the teacher, they could be ruining her life and be wrong in their assessment of the facts.

Then there was this:
Let's vote Wendy Portillo out of her Kindergarten class! Sign the petition. I would hope my posting that here doesn't lead to more people signing it. How unfair to that teacher for this mob to judge her based on very few known facts. [I broke the link after second thoughts. If you are so inclined to join the mob you can Google it.]

And this:
Wendy Portillo's Psychological Mob Lynching of a 5 Year Old is one blog title. This author should get an infamous irony award for his blog entry. He starts it off with an unrelated story of a disabled kid getting beaten up.
 
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Going back to the source in post 4 which does have the most comprehensive information on this event. Other than the headline, Police report reveals teacher's side of incident we have exactly this much information on the teacher's side of the story from the police report:
“Portillo said she did this as she felt that if (Alex) heard from his classmates how his behavior affected them that it would make a bigger difference to him, rather than just hearing it from adults,” according to the report....

...Portillo and children in the class said Alex was pushing a table up with his feet while he was under the table. She got the school resource officer to remove Alex from the classroom. It was the second discipline referral for Alex that day, the report said.

Portillo told the officer after he left the classroom with Alex, she talked with the other children.

“Portillo said she explained to them that the students in class were all her priority and she would protect them like a ‘bear defending her cubs,’” the report said.

When Alex returned to the class, Portillo said she and the class were not ready for him to return.

Portillo told the officer she asked Alex to join her at the front of the class.

“She said she then asked him to listen to what the children didn’t like about the things he did, and she asked him how it made him feel,” the report said. “She said at this time, ‘We polled the class’ to see how his peers felt about his return at that time.”
This is from one officer's interview. It is limited. The teacher cannot rebut anything the parent added later in her news media rounds.

Interpreting the above making positive assumptions instead of all the negative ones which I need not rehash, this could be asking the children to say how they feel. That doesn't mean they were asked to say what they thought of the boy. According to the teacher, she asked the kids to say, When you [do X], I ["how his behavior affected them"]. That is absolutely appropriate. It teaches kids to express their feelings as [I feel] instead of insulting someone using [you are].

A child with autism has trouble with social cues but may be very intelligent. Why wouldn't it be appropriate to give the child verbal feedback of those missed cues? I would think if done correctly, that is the exact thing one should do.

We also have the Mom's earlier news account of the child saying the teacher told him, "the office doesn't want you". Clearly that wasn't correct. The child left the class escorted by the school resource officer.



We have the child's version which I daresay appears to include Mom's reaction.
“I asked (Alex) what the students said, and he said the students said he eats paper, picks boogers and eats them on top of the table and bites his shoelaces,” the report said. “He told me Mrs. Portillo said, ‘I hate you right now. I don’t like you today.’”

The officer asked Alex how the incident made him feel.

“He said it made him feel sad,” according to the report.

Alex also told the officer Portillo scratched him, stepped on his shoelaces, grabbed his leg and pulled his shirt collar, but the report said Portillo and other children in the class refuted those allegations.
So it is likely the child's account is exactly that, a 5 year old's account. It also sounds like a few words there were repeated because the child heard an adult use them.



We have a reactionary Mom:
Alex’s mother, Melissa Barton, filed a complaint with Morningside’s school resource officer about the May 21 incident, saying her child told her he had been voted out of class at the encouragement of the teacher.

But Barton said there are inaccuracies in the report. She said she gave the school resource officer a written statement, and the officer’s report doesn’t match that statement.

According to the report, Barton told the officer when she talked with Portillo after the incident, Portillo “blocked the door for about five minutes to prevent me from leaving the classroom with my child, who was visibly shaken by the abuse.” Alex hasn’t been back at Morningside since the incident.
I am not going to condemn this mother either but she has been visible in the news interview and clearly has been giving her version of events. My concern is her believing her child's story. I know from hearing many such stories from kids that they do indeed have their version of events, but it is not usually exactly how things happen. You recognize that and begin to gather the real facts.

Instead, this mom confronts the teacher, clearly upset and probably already convinced her child whom she loves and protects was abused. That doesn't mean the mom was right.



And we have an outside observer:
Morningside parent Terrence Moore, whose daughter Jessica is in the kindergarten class and was interviewed by the resource officer, said Portillo is an exceptional teacher.

“She’s top notch. She’s a very caring teacher,” Moore said.

Moore said Portillo is big on making sure the children use their manners and she lets the children know what she expects of them.

“In (Jessica’s) mind, (the vote) was a real non-event,” Moore said.

Moore said his daughter told him Alex was disruptive in class, and she voted for him not to return to the class at that time.

Jessica became upset when Portillo was reassigned to school district offices while school officials investigate the incident, Moore said.

“When she found out that was happening, she started to cry,” Moore said. “She loves Mrs. Portillo.”
That doesn't sound like an abusive teacher.



We also have from this news piece:
Alex was in the process of being tested for Asperger’s Syndrome, a type of high-functioning autism, at the time of the incident. Barton said a private psychologist officially diagnosed him Tuesday with an autism-spectrum disorder and Attention Deficit Disorder.
This tells us the child was not identified as a special needs child. So we also don't know how the teacher viewed his behavior in light of this fact.

And consider this is a 5 year old just now being tested. That is very late for testing for autism. It suggests a parent who perhaps didn't think their child's behavior was a problem until the school let her know. Parents need training we don't give them routinely. I imagine we have all seen the parent who appears incompetent or unconcerned about the behavior of their unruly children. Teachers in kindergarten are at the gateway that these kids first enter the system if they haven't been in preschool. That means the teacher may be the first person to expect a child to behave. That is a difficult position.
 
Absolutely spot on Skeptigirl.
For a skeptics forum, we have a huge amount of ignorant comment.
 
I have mixed feelings about this incident. Something should be done about consistently disruptive children consistent with the reason they're disruptive, but the teacher seems to have shown an utter lack of judgement.

Melissa and Alex did appear on a couple of the morning shows though, so I will offer one comment - she's hot.
 
I dunno US, do you really find someone attractive going on about this incident all victimy and everything?
 
I too have a daughter with Asperger's and in addition she has struggled with fairly severe ulcerative colitis. She has nevertheless just about completed mainstream schooling and has passed the exams that she needed to pursue her chosen course and will be going to college to prepare her portfolio for Art College. It hasn't always been easy and she did tend to resort to "the fist of death" when bullied for eccentricities when younger (for 5' 2" and 100lbs she packs a hell of punch).

One can argue that all such children should be in special schools and there is no doubt a point when disability becomes so severe that catering for special needs becomes paramount. However, my daughter has benefited from regular school. She has learned coping mechanisms and now has a good circle of friends (albeit multi hair-coloured Gothic friends - but nice kids all the same) who not only like her but seem to cherish her take on the world. She has teachers she loves and has done well with and there have been, over the years, teachers who simply wanted her anywhere but in their class. From the moment she was diagnosed she has received support from child psychologists who have worked with her teachers and primary and secondary schools. I can't say I have any gripes about the way the system has worked. Teachers are human, they have their own issues and some accommodate difference in their stride, indeed some teachers seem to thrive on it and formed lasting bonds with my daughter - others were less happy and we had to deal with that as it arose. In primary with just one teacher for a year in meant good years and bad years but in secondary with departments of teachers it was usually possible to modify her timetable to everyone's advantage.

However, at no point has it been necessary to call for anyone to get fired. I think this teacher made an error of judgement and may need some support in dealing with Asperger's kids but that is all. If I was the parent I would be looking for a meeting with the school but not blood.
 
Absolutely spot on Skeptigirl.
For a skeptics forum, we have a huge amount of ignorant comment.

i have to confess my initial reaction to reading the article was a bit one-sided.

Appreciate Skeptigirl's posts, hopefully will use my head a bit more next time:o
 
... I think this teacher made an error of judgement and may need some support in dealing with Asperger's kids but that is all. If I was the parent I would be looking for a meeting with the school but not blood.
IF (that's a big IF) the version we are hearing is factual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I'll cut and paste this into every new post here that leaves that out of their conclusion.
 
IF (that's a big IF) the version we are hearing is factual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I'll cut and paste this into every new post here that leaves that out of their conclusion.

:D I took that as read going by the earlier posts. So of course if.

Edit: what is fact is that the parent is unhappy and things are not running smoothly - a school meeting to sort things out is essential - as I said, without the blame game.
 
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I do feel I should point out that with all the good comments about how to deal with autism, the boy wasn't diagnosed with Aspergers until the week after this incident took place.

I have to admit I'd missed that point. However, it doesn't let the school off the hook. The process of diagnosis of an ASD isn't exactly a five-minute test, it's a long and careful process. A week before the diagnosis is delivered, probably the one uncertainty the diagnosis team are still working on is how best to break it to the parents. The school should be aware that the child is going through a psychological assessment, and it's hardly rocket science to hypothesise that behavioural problems might be related to whatever is the reason for the assessment.

So incompetence and not demonstrating competence expected of your certification should not be fireing offenses?

Ah, but there's the rub - "competence expected of your certification". Is a teacher expected to be able to teach a class including a child with an autistic spectrum disorder, or is that considered to be a specialist skill not covered by certification? And if the child's needs are such that he requires one-to-one support in a mainstream class, and he isn't receiving that support, is the teacher incompetent by virtue of being unable to be two people at once?

I've dealt with teachers on occasion who were perfectly able to teach, but who either couldn't or - on occasion - wouldn't adapt their teaching style to accommodate a child with an ASD. There are plenty of them out there, and many are way past their first offence. They are a problem, and as a parent one of the first things you have to learn is that going head-to-head with them only makes things worse; a lot of this inflexible behaviour seems to be rooted in poor self-esteem. Sacking a teacher for one incident, where there appears not to have been the proper support in place anyway, is an overreaction, and I think would do more harm than good.

Dave
 
I too have a daughter with Asperger's and in addition she has struggled with fairly severe ulcerative colitis. She has nevertheless just about completed mainstream schooling and has passed the exams that she needed to pursue her chosen course and will be going to college to prepare her portfolio for Art College. It hasn't always been easy and she did tend to resort to "the fist of death" when bullied for eccentricities when younger (for 5' 2" and 100lbs she packs a hell of punch).

One can argue that all such children should be in special schools and there is no doubt a point when disability becomes so severe that catering for special needs becomes paramount. However, my daughter has benefited from regular school. She has learned coping mechanisms and now has a good circle of friends (albeit multi hair-coloured Gothic friends - but nice kids all the same) who not only like her but seem to cherish her take on the world. She has teachers she loves and has done well with and there have been, over the years, teachers who simply wanted her anywhere but in their class. From the moment she was diagnosed she has received support from child psychologists who have worked with her teachers and primary and secondary schools. I can't say I have any gripes about the way the system has worked. Teachers are human, they have their own issues and some accommodate difference in their stride, indeed some teachers seem to thrive on it and formed lasting bonds with my daughter - others were less happy and we had to deal with that as it arose. In primary with just one teacher for a year in meant good years and bad years but in secondary with departments of teachers it was usually possible to modify her timetable to everyone's advantage.

I would like to think that this is the way things are supposed to work. However, the complexities of the world mean that it does not always do so. I'm for trying to maximize this output but also think that, at some point and in some circumstances, the rest of the children have to have their rights to an education respected.

However, at no point has it been necessary to call for anyone to get fired. I think this teacher made an error of judgement and may need some support in dealing with Asperger's kids but that is all. If I was the parent I would be looking for a meeting with the school but not blood.

I suspect that it really all comes down to cost. But an immediately adversary position rarely makes things better. :(
 

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