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ZEITGEIST, The Movie

It's an interesting thought to me, this idea of in what ways Zeitgeist might actually be good. For me, personally, it ended up leading me to become a whole lot more skeptical of the 911 inside job and international bankers conspiracy theories. Before this, I was under the impression that there were many unanswered questions and the possibility of a conspiracy was something I'd still entertain. I suppose I've not entirely dismissed the possibility of certain people in positions of power being aware of the attacks before hand and doing nothing to stop it, but that's about as far as I'd go now.

So, for me, it was the first part of Zeitgeist that alerted me to see the rest as likely being bunk, because I had enough knowledge to see some pretty suspect information being presented and some dodgy etymology.

It was the way that some people were posting this movie around the internet as some big truth that they had discovered and anyone disagreeing or even questioning such things were clearly blind sheeple, that made me follow up some of the information presented, and to try to find out if there was anything in any of the claims presented.

I guess that's the danger of the film maker trying to put all three conspiracies together. It relies on the viewer being ignorant in all areas or they will suspect the other parts.

I think good can come out of bad things. The idea that this movie can be used to demonstrate propaganda and to teach people to be more skeptical of such things has some merit. Overall, I'd still say Zeitgeist probably does a lot more harm than good. It's not just the bad information, but it spreads a kind of hopeless depression because if true, there's nothing that individuals can do about it. It makes the world a scary, oppressive place and the slight smugness of having knowledge that the mainstream seems unaware of isn't enough to balance out that darkness. There are things that governments are doing that are worth fighting and if anything it can send those who might become activists or even just write a letter or two to the right people, underground and scared of speaking out and becoming enemies of the terrifying state.
 
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Oh yeah before another fact f***er comes up with another death sentence: I'm perfectly aware that the oil crisis happened in 1973.
 
Oh yeah before another fact f***er comes up with another death sentence: I'm perfectly aware that the oil crisis happened in 1973.
 
This may or may not be a candidate for the Wall of Harm, but I met a woman who told me about the Zeitgeist movie, and she appeared to be convinced of the nonsense contained in the film. It made her so paranoid that she took all her money out of the bank, so it wouldn't get in the wrong hands. I did give the movie a look, but it was so badly done I couldn't stomach the silly thing. She wants me to tell me what I thought of it, and all I can think of telling her is that it all a mess of nonsensical crap. Which nicely sums it up I believe.
 
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Yeah_Right said:
This may or may not be a candidate for the Wall of Harm, but I met a woman who told me about the Zeitgeist movie, and she appeared to be convinced of the nonsense contained in the film. It made her so paranoid that she took all her money out of the bank, so it wouldn't get in the wrong hands. I did give the movie a look, but it was so badly done I couldn't stomach the silly thing. She wants me to tell me what I thought of it, and all I can think of telling her is that it all a mess of nonsensical crap. Which nicely sums it up I believe.
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Yeah, it is a big steaming load of crazy awful; there is no denying that. Part 1 starts up the crazy with information most people are not really familiar with, and then goes completely ape with the vast 9-11/Zionist banking conspiracy. Many a truther has been snapped out of it by watching Zeitgeist though. So in that sense it is good.
 
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Yeah, it is a big steaming load of crazy awful; there is no denying that. Part 1 starts up the crazy with information most people are not really familiar with, and then goes completely ape with the vast 9-11/Zionist banking conspiracy. Many a truther has been snapped out of it by watching Zeitgeist though. So in that sense it is good.
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I used to listen to Covino and Rich on Sirius 108 for some fun light hearted guy humor and other stuff. Then a week or two ago they saw this crap movie, and can't shut up about it. I won't listen to them anymore. They've been replays lately though! ha! NWO got to them

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After hearing this movie promoted at an atheist meetup group earlier this month, I finally got around to writing up a lengthy blog post that addresses a selection of howlers from each part of the movie. I can't link to it here as I haven't reached my 15-post minimum at the JREF Forums yet, but there's a link to my blog in my profile.
 
lippard said:
After hearing this movie promoted at an atheist meetup group earlier this month, I finally got around to writing up a lengthy blog post that addresses a selection of howlers from each part of the movie. I can't link to it here as I haven't reached my 15-post minimum at the JREF Forums yet, but there's a link to my blog in my profile.
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Here's the link: http://lippard.blogspot.com/2008/06/zeitgeist-movie.html

If you wish to link something before your 15th post you can just put a space in the url and another poster will fix the link for you, like so:

http:// lippard.blogspot.com/2008/06/zeitgeist-movie.html
 
good morning...it being that here in the uk...somewhat new to this so have patience with me...zeitgeist is just scratching the surface...one might suggest a few too many topics being tackled at the same time....however it does have every body talking about it and that cant be a bad thing.....as for the de-bunkers...not even going there...i do feel however that our friend missed the fact that the ancient philosophers were well aware that the entire physical universe is just distraction from the search for the meta-physical state .... hermeticism has the answers......everything else is of no real consequence
 
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good morning...it being that here in the uk...somewhat new to this so have patience with me...zeitgeist is just scratching the surface...one might suggest a few too many topics being tackled at the same time....however it does have every body talking about it and that cant be a bad thing.....as for the de-bunkers...not even going there...i do feel however that our friend missed the fact that the ancient philosophers were well aware that the entire physical universe is just distraction from the search for the meta-physical state .... hermeticism has the answers......everything else is of no real consequence
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It is pure bs and that is just scratching the surface.

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well hate to differ but i really quite enjoyed it...apart from the obvious hype but you get that in any movie.... its not a documentary actually and despite the ambiguity of the sources he is quoting the overall point is blatantly obvious.... its really not about the facts more about the idea and the mere fact that so many people are talking about it gives it some cred' in this age...salmon rushdii springs to mind....its entertainment ffs not a lesson in life.....i cant believe how fragile the faith is of those who feel so threatened....just cos the guy believes it dont make it so....the fact that he is quite close to the real story is really quite interesting....far easier to sit on the bench punching holes.....
 
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i cant believe how fragile the faith is of those who feel so threatened...
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I assume you're referring to the segment of Zeitgeist that deals with the Jesus myth. You're new here so you may not be aware, but the large majority of regulars at this forum are atheists, so we have no religious faith to be threatened. We just don't like lies, and Zeitgeist was full of lies.
 
hi curt..no offence intended .and being new it will take me a while to suss out who's who in here.....just spent an inordinate ammount of time reading through the various comments....couldnt believe how many were posted by folks who hadn't even seen the movie...i mean where's the logic?...thought we were all thinkers in here
and yet there seems to be more mud slinging than actual constructive criticism..
 
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well hate to differ but i really quite enjoyed it...apart from the obvious hype but you get that in any movie.... its not a documentary actually and despite the ambiguity of the sources he is quoting the overall point is blatantly obvious.... its really not about the facts more about the idea and the mere fact that so many people are talking about it gives it some cred' in this age...salmon rushdii springs to mind....its entertainment ffs not a lesson in life.....i cant believe how fragile the faith is of those who feel so threatened....just cos the guy believes it dont make it so....the fact that he is quite close to the real story is really quite interesting....far easier to sit on the bench punching holes.....
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No matter how much you like the movie it is still bs. It messes up all topics with ease. It take knowledge to see the bs.

Oops, you think people are threatened by this bs? funny stuff

I am not threatened, I cringe there are people dumb enough to fall for this junk.

Wait, you said it is not about the facts, just what people want to make up or some rationalization; proving it is pure bs! Thank you.
 
Hi beachnut.I dont actually remember raving about the movie merely that i quite enjoyed it.I quite enjoyed the De Vinci code as well but that doesn't mean I believe the content to be true, I just find it quite refreshing in these days of yet another Batman movie that there are film makers who are willing to make thought provoking films as opposed to endless action and sensationalism.Nowhere in the film as I recall is there any declaration that the contents are factual.The director obviously is all fired up on a few issues and has attempted to combine them in a single statement; ambitious to say the least but that doesn't actually negate its entertainment value.What was the last film you saw that sparked as much debate? It's all entertainment and food for thought at the end of the day and whether it provokes one to search out a little more thoroughly the information suggested or not is really neither here nor there.Hope the capitals are making your day dudalb.
 
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