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Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

Travis said:
Here's a thought. Perhaps the reason the politicians tend to have somewhat similar views is because there are only so many correct ways to do things.

"Everyone puts their socks on one foot at a time, what puppets!"



Then who do you think is being held in Gitmo and why do you think they are there?
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The freedom fighters, resistors, whatever you wanna call 'em.

The politicians are irrelevant. They got the politicians in their pocket.
 
So if Bush is a dictator:

1. Why is Bush"s approval rating 28%? Hosni Mubrak has 99% approval and so did Saddam Hussein. I bet everybody in Cuba loves Fidel Castro.

2. So why are you allowed to say these things about Bush and hate him so freely and claim that he is a facist? Freedom of speech?

3. Gitmo is a gulag? LOL that place is nothing compared to Fidel Castros prisons in Cuba. Ramzan Kadyrov has way more evil prisons in Chechnya. And I wonder how Ahmadinejad cares about the people in prisons of Iran. Oh yeah and compare Gitmo to the chinese prisons? LOL

You are rigth about one thing. Bush and his friends sees everything as black and white. Bush thinks that those people in the middle east are the bad guys and USA plus Israel are the good guys who can"t do no wrong. Too bad the world doesn"t work that way.
 
ronpaulisright said:
The freedom fighters, resistors, whatever you wanna call 'em.
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Well they certainly aren't freedom fighters, you could reasonably say they are resistors since they are resisting modernity and decency by pushing their backwards and barbaric world view onto helpless victims.......but that ignores something....do you feel they committed or abetted acts of terrorism?


The politicians are irrelevant. They got the politicians in their pocket.
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Who is "they?"
 
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Travis said:
Well they certainly aren't freedom fighters, you could reasonably say they are resistors since they are resisting modernity and decency by pushing their backwards and barbaric world view onto helpless victims.......but that ignores something....do you feel they committed or abetted acts of terrorism?




Who is "they?"
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modernity and decency
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Their resisting you. The insurgents are not that smart and not that savvy. But they do know who they are fighting and resisting. They are resisting YOU! They are barbarians, but if you LEAVE, suicide terrorism will vanish.
 
ronpaulisright said:
Their resisting you. The insurgents are not that smart and not that savvy. But they do know who they are fighting and resisting. They are resisting YOU! They are barbarians, but if you LEAVE, suicide terrorism will vanish.
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That is profoundly naive and more importantly......wrong.
 
ronpaulisright said:
Surprisingly, it's not.
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Astonishingly, amazingly, astoundingly, incredibly........is is.

Now just admit defeat at the hand of my more numerous superlatives or provide some evidence on why what you think is true.
 
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ronpaulisright said:
These things take time and are steps. It's hard work. Bush wants to be a dictator. He's even said it himself!
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Hitler turned Germany into a fascist state in a matter of months.

Bush has had 7+ years and a massive terror attack for him to milk. What's the hold up? When do you think this fascist state will be realized?
 
ronpaulisright said:
Look at viet nam. We left, tail between our legs and now... we trade with viet nam. They're our friends now!
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What happened to the poor people in South Vietnam after the US left?

Hmmmm, a million were sent to "re-education" camps where 165000 were murdered.

The remainder decided to risk death leaving and became the "boat people."

South Vietnam suffered far more from Communist rule than from the brutality of the war fought there in part by the US.

Kinda makes all those Vietnam War Protesters who cheered on Hanoi while calling all US soldiers "baby killers" seem either ridiculously naive or communist sycophants.
 
CHF said:
Hitler turned Germany into a fascist state in a matter of months.

Bush has had 7+ years and a massive terror attack for him to milk. What's the hold up? When do you think this fascist state will be realized?
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How does that invalidate the idea that Bush, or any of the current crop of presidential candidates, would set up a fascist state?

Go read Naomi wolfs book The End of America. It's happening before your eyes. When you search vehicles without cause and demand your id at checkpoints all the time. When they arrest you for filming the police, destroy your camera, and then let you go, you're living in fascism.

You think that America, which prizes freedom above everything else, is going to just turn fascist over night? You think the American people would go along with that?

If you condition the people through incremental change, through the media, and several generations of citizens, then it makes the process that much easier, even if it takes longer.

Don't worry, there is going to be an even either this year or next where the current president, or the next will implement martial law and it won't end. Corporate fascism is already the defacto policy of the US government. Full blown facist police state isn't far off.
 
CHF said:
Hitler turned Germany into a fascist state in a matter of months.

Bush has had 7+ years and a massive terror attack for him to milk. What's the hold up? When do you think this fascist state will be realized?
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We got "lucky", in that the goals of the Bush administration were mostly directed outwards towards Iraq. We can see that Bush was successful in starting his war with no justification, with the support of the media and the Democrats. Who knows what else he could have gotten away with instead?
 
I am sick and tired of this "war on islam for israel". Why would you die for israel? They are not our enemies! The saudis are our enemies right? Damn neo cons.
 
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