CIT/Air America Debate Challenge

ElMondoHummus said:
Oh, crap... Ron! Did that Mexican wrestler intercept that call? Because dammit, Ron, I swear, if it turns out that some guy in a Luche Libre mask appears as "Ron Wick" (sic) representing the rationalists on the show tomorrow, I'm gonna hold you responsible!! Imagine! Clowns vs. clowns! We'd never live it down!

Christ!... all you had to do was run the guy one damn block, and the fat :rule10 woulda dropped from a heart attack,
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Hey, the sumbitch is quicker than he looks!



ElMondoHummus said:
but nooooooooo! It's too fashionable to have operatives stalking you, stealing your checks and ruining your life, 'cept in your case, it wasn't a bunch of trenchcoated men, but some huge weirdo wearing a Luchador mask with chalupa stains around the mouth, but hey! Pomeroo's got to have his own damn "secret agent" stalker and to hell with everyone else...
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What? You're accusing me of being selfish??

Trust me, pal, I am willing to share. I am so willing to share. :mad:


ElMondoHummus said:
(For those of you who don't know where this diversion came from: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3610887#post3610887. Just 'cause I felt like it. So there! :p)
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I just received another call from Rob Balsamo. He was quite civil and impressed me with his sincerity in wanting a substantive debate on the FDR and related matters. I agreed to apologize for lumping him in with Ranke and Marquis and promised I would continue my effort to find opponents for tomorrow's CLOUT.

What can I say? The people here who are qualified to discuss the subject should step up to the plate. There is no satisfactory reason for missing this opportunity to address a fairly large audience.
 
pomeroo said:
I just received another call from Rob Balsamo. He was quite civil and impressed me with his sincerity in wanting a substantive debate on the FDR and related matters. I agreed to apologize for lumping him in with Ranke and Marquis and promised I would continue my effort to find opponents for tomorrow's CLOUT.

What can I say? The people here who are qualified to discuss the subject should step up to the plate. There is no satisfactory reason for missing this opportunity to address a fairly large audience.
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With all due respect, he blew his opportunity to debate here and his minions are apparently unable to debate either. He doesn't want to debate, he wants an unchallenged diatribe.

Of course, he could alwayd open up his own forum for debate but as we all know he's too much of a coward to do that.
 
pomeroo said:
I just received another call from Rob Balsamo. He was quite civil and impressed me with his sincerity in wanting a substantive debate on the FDR and related matters. I agreed to apologize for lumping him in with Ranke and Marquis and promised I would continue my effort to find opponents for tomorrow's CLOUT.

What can I say? The people here who are qualified to discuss the subject should step up to the plate. There is no satisfactory reason for missing this opportunity to address a fairly large audience.
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Ron;
if he wanted to debate he would have opened up his pft forums to the pilots and crash scene investigators, technicians etc that are on this forum. But as soon as you disagree with his conspiracy, you are gone. You cannot debate numbers and equations or aerial photos and paths over a phone. And he Knows that! Theres nothing to debate, the math does not work for him. Its a publicity stunt. If they themselves were convinced, They should be contacting authorities not talk show hosts.
 
A W Smith said:
Ron;
if he wanted to debate he would have opened up his pft forums to the pilots and crash scene investigators, technicians etc that are on this forum. But as soon as you disagree with his conspiracy, you are gone. You cannot debate numbers and equations or aerial photos and paths over a phone. And he Knows that! Theres nothing to debate, the math does not work for him. Its a publicity stunt. If they themselves were convinced, They should be contacting authorities not talk show hosts.
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Why not bring that up to him, though?

You can't just let his foolishness go unchallenged.
 
Well, for those of you who were listening to

http://www.wethepeopleradionetwork.com/

which is a prelude to tomorrow night's program, but as expected I got cut short. My questions were interrupted by commercials and a political figure on a rant replaced me on the call in schedule.

Of course, I got accused of being a gubmint shill with the usual witness preemption of all other issue and then the commercial break.

So much for the other side of the coin. It's a joke.

ETA: Is it any wonder that I don't want to travel somewhere or even call in again to one of these sites that's willing to host these jerks?
 
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pomeroo said:
I just received another call from Rob Balsamo. He was quite civil and impressed me with his sincerity in wanting a substantive debate on the FDR and related matters. I agreed to apologize for lumping him in with Ranke and Marquis and promised I would continue my effort to find opponents for tomorrow's CLOUT.
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Don't be fooled, Ron. His "sincerity" is phony. Balsamo evades inconvenient questions and will do so on the air. Just like Ranke and Aldo. I have to agree fully with Mark Roberts on this matter and not give them the time of day.
 
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pomeroo said:
I just received another call from Rob Balsamo. He was quite civil and impressed me with his sincerity in wanting a substantive debate on the FDR and related matters.
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O'RLY? Did that mutt apologize for this:

"So we have decided to scrape the bottom of the barrel and invite internet "debunkers" who spend their days and nights obsessed with our work (although now they are using the excuse they dont want to give us any "attention" when a debate challenge arises)."

Tell Rob to post his math. We will accept nothing less. He will be ignored until he can explain his calculations.

Civil my ass. Sincere? Tell that incompetent SOB to support his flight path.
 
It's lose-lose with these conspiracy nuts. Over at LCF

Aldo said:
If we are nuts and irrational and illogical we are, why do you continue to do bother with us?
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2 Sentences later said:
Why can't you find one of your "expert" debunkers to come on and debate us on the issue?
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Craig said:
Gravy who is too much of a coward to debate us?
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So, if we aren't worried about them, we shouldn't debate them, but if we don't debate them then we're cowards. (Heads we win, tails you lose)

Another fine example of distored logic, brought to you by the letters C, I, and T.
 
nicepants said:
So, if we aren't worried about them, we shouldn't debate them, but if we don't debate them then we're cowards. (Heads we win, tails you lose)

Another fine example of distored logic, brought to you by the letters C, I, and T.
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It's a lot easier to lie to yourself in such a fashion than admit you're such a joke even those who used to smack you around as a hobby have gotten bored with it.

Air America and the truth movement deserve each other, since they've both been non-issues for well over a year now. :p
 
parky76 said:
The time for perpetual, futile, and unproductive debates is over. It is time for the Truth Club to prevent their evidence to a court of law.

The fact that the Truth Club prefers to debate, make Youtube videos, and "confront" politicians, rather then bring their evidence to a court...is very telling.
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Well said and summarizes my feelings. These guys are attention whores. They have taken up the CT career path and will do whatever it takes to drum up funds/attention to further their new careers. Of course "whatever it takes" doesn't include any actual attempts at achieving justice or vetting their "data" in a way to validate it.

There is a reason you don't find to many real experts debating quacks in the media. Science and engineering can't be "debated" on a TV, radio or Internet broadcast. The "winner" becomes whoever can talk the longest and loudest or who comes off with the best personality, makes the funniest jokes or has the cleverest sound bites.
 
DavidJames said:
Well said and summarizes my feelings. These guys are attention whores. They have taken up the CT career path and will do whatever it takes to drum up funds/attention to further their new careers. Of course "whatever it takes" doesn't include any actual attempts at achieving justice or vetting their "data" in a way to validate it.

There is a reason you don't find to many real experts debating quacks in the media. Science and engineering can't be "debated" on a TV, radio or Internet broadcast. The "winner" becomes whoever can talk the longest and loudest or who comes off with the best personality, makes the funniest jokes or has the cleverest sound bites.
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That's why Shermer will never do it again.
 
Bobert said:
Poor Aldo didnt get an invite to the show.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Given Aldo & Dom's propensity for angered outbursts of foul language, I think that was probably a wise decision. (Although it would make for some very humorous sound bytes!)
 
Well, just popped over to Loose Change Forums. From the Wobbly Third Leg of the CIT:

"Seems the Sewer rats think Farmer & Larson are their best bet......

Wait aren't Farmer & Larson 9/11 Truthers???

Why would the Sewer Rats pick them as their best opposition to CIT & PFT?"

I swear, sometimes these twoofers are dumber than a sack of hammers.

Let me make this simple: even other Truthers despise you knuckleheads because your theory (well it's not even a theory now, is it boys?) is so ridiculous. Your witnesses all say that the plane hit the Pentagon. That coupled with the fact that you guys are INCAPABLE of responding to the requests for your flight path make you a laughingstock.
 
aaaaaah the widdle children are all starved for a widdle attention
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/277689/1/#new
CIT is up to their old tricks again
We will be making a major announcement
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They figured out how to do math?
See-saw Analogy in high tech CGI?
Ground breaking NEW evidence to be revealed folks.
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LOL YET AGAIN with the term "evidence" yet I don't think Craig knows what this really means.
Time to bring that "evidence" to the proper authorities.
Its been over a year since you promised this time to deliver!
FRAUDS.
We ain't playin'!
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Ok word cuz!
Time to round up the homies and blast some fools!
Its funny when Craig tries to act hard core like his ghetto buddy Aldo.
Its cute to see Aldo talking like he is big and bad and equating investigators with criminal street gangs
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=71807&t=263367
22205 is a true investigangsta.
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Aldo seriously brother time to up those meds.
 
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