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DC: Why do you think WTC7 was a CD?

Dictator Cheney said:
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something like that i think
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Explain the operation of that device.
 
WildCat said:
Explain the operation of that device.
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1. Field of the Invention
The present invention generally relates to an apparatus and method for cutting target material. The present invention more particularly relates to an apparatus and method for cutting target material of a substantial thickness using a thermite based charge.
2. Description of the Prior Art
A number of devices for cutting materials of a substantial thickness are known in the art. Many of these devices employ explosive shaped charges which deliver energy to the surface of a material in the form of a high pressure, high velocity shock front. The conical or "V" shaped charge, for example, explodes and focuses cutting energy onto the surface of the material to be cut. A primary disadvantage of explosive shaped charges is that they generate excessive noise and debris upon detonation. This noise and debris can pose potentially serious health and safety hazards to someone using a cutting device which employs conventional shaped charge explosives.
Thermite-based cutting devices which employ a cutting flame produce virtually no extended shock wave and generate relatively little over pressure. Thermite-based cutting devices do not present the same health and safety hazards which are attendant upon explosive shape charge cutting devices.
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source

there are also other patents
 
Dictator Cheney said:
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there are also other patents
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There is zero evidence for the use of explosives anywhere in the WTC complex on the day of the jihadist attacks.


Thermite is not used in demolition.


A 47-story building cannot be prepped for demolition in hours or even days.

The FDNY does not implode buildings.

"Pull it" is firefighter slang, not demolition slang.
 
Dictator Cheney said:
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there are also other patents
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Any evidence such a device was ever produced? Any evidence such a device is capable of making a horizontal cut in a column? Any clue as to the size of such a device? Etc etc.

Need I remind you that no truther to date has managed to cut a column using thermite?
 
WTC7 didnt need preperations for CD. when fires and damage could bring down the building, then for sure explosives or thermite can do it.

afaik thats correct that the FDNY does not CD buildings.

who was LS talking to?
 
WildCat said:
Any evidence such a device was ever produced? Any evidence such a device is capable of making a horizontal cut in a column? Any clue as to the size of such a device? Etc etc.

Need I remind you that no truther to date has managed to cut a column using thermite?
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you need help moving your goalposts?
 
Dictator Cheney said:
you need help moving your goalposts?
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The goalpost is the same. I'm maintaining that there is no thermite-based device capable of cutting a column, a claim you and other truthers make repeatedly.

Now, do you have any evidence at all that thermite can be used to cut a column?
 
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WildCat said:
That doesn't look like thermite.
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Spectre Enterprises is the leading developer of technologies based upon exothermic metal reaction chemistry…a class of chemistry characterized by high temperature and high-energy reactions.
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i dont know if they call it thermite, or thermate or therwhatever.
 
Dictator Cheney said:
WTC7 didnt need preperations for CD. when fires and damage could bring down the building, then for sure explosives or thermite can do it.
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You make the same mistake many snake oil salesmen do. Writing is not the same as talking. When you say complete gibberish, you can try saying it so fast that no one is quite sure of what they're hearing. This technique, called doubletalk, works well for comedians, but it fails when attempted in writing. Now, you are saying, either in jest because you're pulling our legs or in earnest because you're incredibly stupid, that the extensive fires coupled with the observed structural damage to the building was capable of causing it to collapse, therefore imaginary explosives could have done as much.

Sorry, you fail. I'll repeat: the job of prepping a 47-story building for demolition would be a huge one, taking months to complete and requiring many thousands of pounds of explosives. It could not be done without anyone noticing. You're correct for once--WTC 7 didn't need prepping. It wasn't demolished: it collapsed from the fires and structural damage.


Dictator Cheney said:
afaik thats correct that the FDNY does not CD buildings.
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Yes, it is certainly correct that the FDNY doesn't implode buildings. Silverstein's conversation with the fire department commander had nothing to do with demolition.


Dictator Cheney said:
who was LS talking to?
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He was talking to one of the commanders on the ground. You don't actually care, by the way. Silverstein agreed with the FDNY's assessment of the building.
 
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Dictator Cheney said:
i dont know if they call it thermite, or thermate or therwhatever.
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Are you claiming such a device was used on 9/11? Wouldn't it (no matter what it really is) have to be the size of a truck to cut a column the size of the ones in the WTC?

And btw, the truthburn project so far has been nothing but a giant failure: http://911truthburn.blogspot.com/2007/05/what-truthburn-is-trying-to-replicate.html

Let me know when anyone in your grouip manages to cut a column with thermite.
 
a huge part of prepwork is removing drywalls, that could act as stiffeners, they need 1000's of pounds of well placed explosives that go off in a sequence.

but on 9/11 we saw, drywalls dont act up as stiffeners, and when a building has to be brought straight down, it does not mather if you use a precise calculated sequence of well placed explosives or destryed columns on one side of the building and uncontrolled Fires, the building will come straigt down.
 
Dictator Cheney said:
a huge part of prepwork is removing drywalls, that could act as stiffeners, they need 1000's of pounds of well placed explosives that go off in a sequence.

but on 9/11 we saw, drywalls dont act up as stiffeners, and when a building has to be brought straight down, it does not mather if you use a precise calculated sequence of well placed explosives or destryed columns on one side of the building and uncontrolled Fires, the building will come straigt down.
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It's comical. You think you're being clever, and you're actually revealing how obtuse you are. The collapse of WTC 7 was far from being "neat." People don't pay for such sloppy jobs.
 
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Dictator Cheney said:
my group?
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Yes, 9/11 conspiracy bots.

I can't really call you guys conspiracy theorists, because none of you has actually come up with a coherent theory.

Anyone manage to cut a column with thermite yet? Is truthburn even attempting to do so any more? You'd think it would be no problem to perform a feat you claim was pulled off dozens of times with 100% success on 9/11. Yet no truthers seem to be able to!

Maybe because it's not possible?
 
Dictator Cheney said:
a huge part of prepwork is removing drywalls,
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Removing drywall isn't the issue though.

Its getting access to the columns.

Any cutting charges (or Therm?te) need to be mounted in CONTACT with the column to be cut.

But building Architects typcially don't leave these exposed for asthetic reasons.

Hence the OBVIOUS effort required to strip the offending decorative material away from the columns.

Effort that both takes time and makes any secret PRE-PLANTING of these devices HIGHLY unlikely.
 
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